Oscar De bok1:07
I have not been directly involved in the discussion on that. But I mean, it's a few containers, so it's not compared to the number of containers we have there. But one of the things is you need to make sure that we get them released and how we can find alternative routes for them, how we make sure that our customers can plan the products that are in there, alternative routes, alternative plans or alternative products. So to keep those supply chains running. And I think I was saying that probably the last interview, which was actually with Bloomberg at the time, where he said there is something around the corner in supply chains every time. We just don't know what it is. I couldn't have guessed that now we will be talking about, obviously, this event. And I think one of the main things that you see is that both our customers and ourselves, but I would say everybody working around supply chain and actually also everybody working in other parts of our customers, is now far more attuned to having to respond fast decision making, using data to make sure that we have the alternatives and fast find alternative solutions. How to manage the supply chain. Because I think this is one of those events that will be happening, which raises the question of how much you have to sort of create redundancies inherent in your supply chains and in your system in order to be flexible to handle, say, a two-hour delay because you've got to go a different route around Baltimore and get into Washington, D.C., things that seem like they'd be disasters if I were traveling with my kids. But you have to manage and make the time, see the in the same. Yeah, I think that is a very important point where in the past, let's say more than four years ago, it was all about just in time. It was all about having the lowest levels possible, having the most efficient and cost-effective supply chain. What you know, the strategy is far more about the resilience of supply chains to make sure that they are organized in such a way that you can respond to these things. Because if you've got your minimum stock levels, then obviously a two-hour delay is actually dramatic. If you make sure that you built a supply chain in such a way that you can respond to that, it already helps. And I think that's something that you see happening at the moment. Is that rather that the, let's say, the minor cost is the main thing now? It is making sure the supply chain keeps running because many of our customers have now realized that supply chains are more about availability and making sure you can continue to serve customers rather than only having minimal levels of minimum cost.