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CEO, International, BT Group plc

Street Works UK Conference 2020: Keynote speech from Clive Selley

🎥 Dec 10, 2020 📺 Street Works UK ⏱ 49m 👁 171 views
Keynote speech from CEO of Openreach, Clive Selley.
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Transcript (27 segments)
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Host0:02
Good afternoon everybody. We are live now. Great inputs from Matt Warman and Richard Maddock. Please keep populating the chat. I'm going to introduce the CEO of Openreach, Clive Selley. He has over 30 years at BT Group, formerly CIO and CEO of a multi-billion pound division. Under his leadership, Openreach is building a more reliable and future-proof full fiber broadband network for the UK, reaching over 15 million homes by the mid-2020s. Over to you, Clive.
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Clive Selley3:36
Well thank you very much for that introduction. I'm here representing Openreach, the UK's nationwide full fiber builder. We aim to bring full fiber to 20 million homes by the mid to late 2020s. This is a major engineering project. The government's goal of gigabit capable networks by 2025 is the right goal. We are currently passing over 40,000 premises per week and on track to reach 4.5 million by March 2021. We need to accelerate to reach 20 million. Full fiber could boost UK productivity and generate 59 billion in GDP. The pandemic showed the importance of our network; we had no major outages. We need help from government on access to social housing and blocks of flats. The telecoms infrastructure bill is stalled. Streetworks: we are the biggest undertaker. This year we expect 350,000 works. To meet the 2025 target, we need to pass over 3 million premises per year, a 50% increase. We are working on multi-street permitting and a flexi permitting trial in Sheffield. Temporary traffic restriction orders costs are rising. We need reform. We are collaborating through streetworks UK. Full fiber will underpin the next wave of jobs and growth. Thank you.
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Host15:56
What a powerful and informative start. The scale of your challenge comes across. Full fiber is green and you ended up discussing EV charging. Interested in your remarks about working in a COVID-secure way. Intrigued by your point about government help on access. Congratulations on the TFL award. You touch on flexi permits. If I could kick off with a first question: what are the most concerning challenges for you? What are the top three in your mental risk register?
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Clive Selley17:28
Oh, as a whole. Perhaps the speed with which we get COVID under control. Great news about three vaccines. We've lost five members of Openreach to COVID. The population has lost 40,000. We need that conquered. Another imminent concern is Brexit: continuity of supply chain, stockpiling two months of equipment, expensive. Also people supply chain – subcontractors from EU. Third is the combination of accessing streets and buildings: way leaves into apartment blocks, across private and public land. Those are my three key concerns.
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Host20:38
Okay, that's really helpful. Vaccination, Brexit supply chain, access to street and buildings sets great context. Before we come to Mark Wrightson's question on safety, I want to tease you on vaccination: would you wish to seek that it was mandatory for your workforce to be vaccinated?
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Clive Selley21:03
A really good question. I discussed that with Matt Warman last week. I requested that we be in the early set of people to be vaccinated, in the second tier after care homes and NHS. I made that request to the minister.
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Host21:56
Thanks for that. I think that reinforces the point that during COVID, streetworks workers were key workers. Can I tease you on a deeper issue: would you have any sanction on your employees that they should be vaccinated?
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Clive Selley22:42
We've discussed this internally and with the company doctor. I don't think we as an employer can mandate it. The government could consider their legal position, but it's dangerous legal ground. One in a million might have an adverse reaction, giving rise to legal and human rights issues.
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Host23:34
I'm sure that's absolutely the right answer, Clive. Thank you. Let me turn to a couple of questions in the chat. More people are listening than were to the minister this morning. From Mark Wrightson first of all, working safely is so important. How do you keep Openreach and your partners prioritizing safety whilst undertaking such a significant build program?
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Clive Selley23:38
Yeah, I think that's a really good question. It concerns me. Openreach running this huge infrastructure build program, but others too. It's a race and a land grab. So there is this speed imperative. How do we maintain safety as the top agenda item? There isn't an easy answer. Part of the answer is you keep talking about it. Every operations board on Friday has an agenda item on safety. We review performance and initiatives. For example, we introduced a new ladder and harness system so that when our guys climb, they are harnessed and can't fall far. We have another program removing telecoms structures from high voltage electricity poles. Keep applauding when innovations are presented. For example, street guarding in high winds – we improved design. Keep applauding when someone sees a problem and calls it out.
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Host27:20
Well let me lead that conversation on into the more modern working paradigm. Working from home and your Openreach staff. What can be done to help them with this increased approach? Presumably you perceive a greater demand to work from home. For those who want to work from home, leaning to mental health areas. What are you going to do about that, Clive?
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Clive Selley28:04
Yeah, good question. We are 35,000 people. About 26-27,000 are field engineers, most singletons, safe. Many visit customers' homes – equipped with masks, sanitizer, wipes. For home workers, health and safety is about proper chairs, mental health. Danger of becoming detached. Zoom calls not the same as face-to-face. Commuting used to detune from work. Work-life balance is out the window. We produce materials, briefings, help managers check in, detect signs of mental stress. We made office space available for those who cannot work at home.
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Host31:13
That's interesting. While focusing on your people and the wider workforce, how do you think is the best way to improve the skills in the workforce to deliver this infrastructure? The scale of four times quicker across the sector – how is that going to happen, Clive?
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Clive Selley32:04
Skills is a huge issue. The minister at round table last week insisted we hire people losing jobs due to virus and reskill them. We've invested in new training centers for fiber skills in Newport and Crawley. Basic fiber skills can be learned in three months, but craft skills need practice. Nine months to be competent. We built open street hangers to recreate streets for training. Biggest problem now is social distancing in classrooms – we can only half fill. That's a constraint. I'd love to get vaccines for new recruits to double density in training schools and produce more skilled workers.
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Host34:56
Essential for the country and the green recovery. I want to go to the question from Paul Thompson. This is looking through the lens of contractors. Where can the assistance of the supply chain be of most benefit to you? In general terms, where can contractors help you best?
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Clive Selley35:33
The supply chain of contractors is hugely important. What we would ask of you guys is hire more people, preferably UK citizens. Please invest in training. We have our own schools, but in the supply chain focus on skills building. Also teach safe working practices. As we speed up rollout, we must double down on safety.
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Host37:03
Let's home in on regulation. Is there anything in terms of the regulatory side that is a challenge from how Ofcom presents itself to enable your broadband rollout?
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Clive Selley37:57
Ofcom is a highly competent regulator. They understand the industry and technology. They sound us out regularly on barriers to full fiber deployment. For example, we work together so other companies can use our duct and pole network, minimizing street works. Our regulator is pro-investment, encouraging investment. My program is 12 billion pounds. We need assurance of a fair return, and Ofcom understands that.
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Host39:50
I've got a couple questions I want to refer to. First from Diane Newson at Anglian Water: how do you think virtual reality training solutions could assist you with training? You talked about three-month period for basic qualification. What's your perception of VR?
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Clive Selley40:18
Good question. VR does have a role. We are experimenting with VR headsets, especially in exchanges with head-end equipment. We are diversifying supply, and VR can teach engineers how to use each equipment type without having the equipment there. It speeds training, is readily updatable, and lowers cost. The business case looks viable now.
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Host42:20
Got a final question from your employee Allison Williams: Openreach created an in-house civils team when you didn't have one before. Why did you make this move and what benefits do you perceive?
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Clive Selley42:50
This was my personal initiative. I suspected we dig up the road too much. Mostly necessary, but sometimes we needn't. The in-house civils team is making a difference. They have nearly a thousand people now. Their biggest value is when they engineer around the need to dig. They avoid doing civils by finding ways not to dig. It will grow to about 1300 within a year, but won't replace third-party civils for bigger jobs.
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Host44:47
All right, I think we're drawing to a close now. One final question: in all honesty, are we on track for the 2025 broadband target? If not, what can streetworks do more to help in that pursuit?
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Clive Selley45:15
What will determine if we make 2025 is the speed at which the government rolls out the subsidy program for rural broadband. The bag of swag from Rishi Sunak has five billion pounds for subsidizing rollout to hardest to reach premises. If government cracks on, industry responds, we can hit the target. Rural UK is the tough part. Thank you to streetworks UK and those in authority. If we work together to be slicker and quicker, we can deliver. Also thank you to the subcontract supply chain.
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Host47:18
All right, Clive. Well thank you very much. You've given us a rich tapestry of explanation and some really honest answers. Inspiring. We started with just under 50 and still have just under 50. Thank you and wish you all the best. Spend your 12 billion wisely.
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Clive Selley48:01
Will do, thank you very much. Bye.
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Host48:03
I'm going to just do a wind up with the rest of the crew. Please feel free to log off. We're now running up to the 2pm session with a panel discussion involving David Capon from JAG, Samantha from WPD, and Sally Kendall from DfT. For those who come back, see you at two o'clock. Thanks to sponsors Atkins Global and Skewb. Cheerio.