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Questions asked in this interview
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0:09Where do you think things stand right now from all of the inputs you receive?
2:16Where do you think that leaves us in terms of efficiency of what's to come?
2:56And all the efficiency numbers that we've gotten, like yesterday's numbers, you think that's just all pre-AI?
5:53Glenn, if we grew way above what we thought we could—if we did that, and productivity in AI allows inflation to stay relatively muted, that allows rates to stay low. Wouldn't that be great though?
6:39If AI is as successful as it needs to be for these companies effectively to grow into their valuations that even exist today, unemployment in your mind is what?
We are getting ready for the jobs report. Ahead of that, we want to welcome a special guest. Glenn Hutchins is North Island's co-founder and chairman, longtime friend of the show. Glenn, it's great to have you here this morning. You wear a lot of different hats, and we're going to ask you about a lot of different topics, but maybe we should start with the jobs report numbers in terms of what we're anticipating. It's going to be the first clean jobs report we get since before the government shutdown. And we're just trying to get a feel for the economy. Where do you think things stand right now from all of the inputs you receive?
It's a good question, Becky. But first, as I was suggesting earlier, I want to congratulate you on your CURES initiative. Thank you. I'm very proud of you. It's an important thing you're doing and you have all of our support.
So from the jobs report, you've had other people on the show who have talked about what exact number they're looking for and how the numbers have changed based upon immigration policy and all those sorts of things. So as I've thought about it, the question people ask me a lot, and I've seen a lot of writing about it, is this conundrum between weak employment market performance—either job creation or unemployment—strong GDP growth, and companies reporting they're not extracting much value yet from their AI investments. So how pre-AI investments do we have in this economy that is having this weak job performance? And as I've gone out and looked at companies, I think something pretty straightforward is happening. Company after company are right now extracting value in the form of efficiencies from the last ten years of investing in things like the cloud, big data, and machine learning. These companies are also very disproportionately being run by a next generation of leaders who are digital natives and tech-savvy. So rather than the resistance to characterizing the adoption of technology in the past, they are now embracing it and using it. So you're seeing them extracting huge amounts of value from AI investing.
That's pretty interesting. The idea that they are getting more for what they could stretch those resources from before. Where do you think that leaves us in terms of efficiency of what's to come?
Well, that's the important question. So the same young group of entrepreneurs, executives are—as opposed to the prior cohort that resisted and dragged their feet around investing in the cloud, for instance—moving very aggressively to invest in AI. AI will, of course, have the same J-curve. You'll have to make a bunch of investments, you'll have to hire a bunch of people. But because of this aggressive and early investment, I would expect it to explode in a way that we haven't seen before from the last waves of investing.
That's largely an artifact of AI investing, with one exception, which is the massive investment that's happening right now in the data centers. That's obviously roaring through the economy.
Hutchins, G. (2026, January 9). North Island's Glenn Hutchins on the economy, strength of the labor market and impact of AI [Interview transcript]. CNBC Television. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1013178/
MLA
Glenn Hutchins. "North Island's Glenn Hutchins on the economy, strength of the labor market and impact of AI." CNBC Television, 9 Jan. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1013178/.
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author = {Glenn Hutchins},
title = {North Island's Glenn Hutchins on the economy, strength of the labor market and impact of AI},
howpublished = {Interview transcript, CNBC Television. CEOInterviews.AI},
year = {2026},
month = {jan},
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note = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
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