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Stephan Bross
Managing Director - Production, Technology and Digital Transformation, KSB SE & Co. KGaA

Auf einen Espresso mit dem neuen LK-Vorsitzenden Dr. Stephan Bross (Wissensfabrik-Forum 2021)

🎥 Jul 15, 2021 📺 Wissensfabrik ⏱ 24m
Die Breakout-Session fand im Rahmen des Wissensfabrik-Forums unter dem Motto "Zukunft.Jetzt.Machen." statt. Beim Forum ...
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Transcript (23 segments)
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Claudia Gut0:12
Welcome to our breakout session, 'An Espresso with Our New Steering Committee Chairman.' My name is Claudia Gut, I am a member of the board of Wissensfabrik, and I am especially delighted to take this opportunity with you today to get to know Dr. Bross a little better.
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Stephan Bross0:45
Thank you very much for the invitation and for the opportunity not only to drink an espresso but also to talk about various topics. It's so good to sit across from each other again, not just virtually, and to get a real espresso. And the distance certainly allows us to sit here without a mask.
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Claudia Gut1:04
Before we start with some questions we prepared, I would like to briefly introduce Dr. Bross again. Bross is a native of Hamburg. After his studies and doctorate at TU Braunschweig, he started as a mechanical engineering graduate at KSB AG, where he still works today. For several years he was managing director of KSB Service GmbH and the corporate service division; most recently he was responsible for the corporate divisions for pumps and valves. Since 2017, Mr. Bross has been a member of the board in the technology division at KSB. For three years now, Mr. Bross has also been, I believe, a proud member of the steering committee of Wissensfabrik, and as of today, as already mentioned, our new steering committee chairman. Let's get started. We have prepared some questions, but at this point I would also like to point out: you may have already used it in the first breakout session—you have the opportunity at any time via Slido, which you should see displayed on the right side of your screen, to ask us questions that I will then gladly take up and discuss with Mr. Bross.
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Stephan Bross3:16
I have to go back a bit further, because my school days are a couple of days ago. I was born in 1962, so I went to school at the end of the 1960s, beginning of the 1970s. Back then, school was marked by a shortage of teachers, and especially the STEM subjects were always neglected. There was half a year of physics, sometimes one and a half years of chemistry. And since I changed schools in between, I had the luck or misfortune to enjoy a good physics education but have no clue at all about chemistry. Today I would want it differently. There are completely different possibilities alongside the school material offered, to introduce children to these topics very early through such extracurricular activities. That's exactly what Wissensfabrik does, opening up opportunities for teachers and schools that they otherwise simply would not have.
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Claudia Gut4:26
I can fully understand what you're saying. I also have two children of elementary school age and see how, not everywhere but in some places, teachers are wonderfully engaged and proactive in working on topics with the children. When I think back to my own school days, especially physics—since you mentioned it—I experienced it as the driest and least tangible subject. It doesn't have to be that way. I think it's great that our children today have other opportunities, which are also fantastically advanced by Wissensfabrik.
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Stephan Bross5:25
Well, first of all, Wissensfabrik already has a fixed place in my calendar anyway, so creating free time for it is relatively small. What motivated me? We always talk about shaping the future, and as Heinz so nicely said, the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. That means if we talk about shaping and especially securing our future, we have to think about what resources and means we need. Those are the people who shape that future, and in 20 years, that will be today's children. If we rely on continuing to have manufacturing industries and playing a role in technological applications on the global market, then we have to provide these resources—and it sounds so technocratic—we have to provide these people with these skills today. That's why I am engaged today so that future generations can sustainably shape this future.
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Claudia Gut6:39
One can tell how you identify with the topics that we develop together in Wissensfabrik with a lot of passion, I think. It's wonderful to know that in your role, what the team has achieved and what Mr. Heinz and his role as chairman has accomplished in recent years will be continued with the same kind of engagement, perhaps a bit different but no less committed, and with just as much heart. Now you start today in this new position. I asked you in the first question to look back a bit; now the counterpart: imagine 15 years into the future. What is your vision for Wissensfabrik? What might we have achieved or changed by then, or where might the big challenges lie?
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Stephan Bross7:29
I like to think in black and white pictures, because in the end, gray becomes by itself. But I have two visions. One vision is that in 10 to 15 years, Wissensfabrik won't be needed anymore—at least not in its current form, where we have to provide a lot of seed funding and invest a lot of engagement to get STEM education into curricula, to provide resources, to engage networks and doers to get the whole thing running. My vision is that through the great engagement we have, we make ourselves obsolete, so to speak. That would be one pole. The other pole: if it's a system that constantly needs energy to keep running, then I would wish that all companies are members of Wissensfabrik, that many many employees from member companies take on sponsorships and personally engage to advance the whole topic. That applies both to early childhood education and to entrepreneurship.
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Claudia Gut8:46
You know Wissensfabrik very well, you can see that. Nevertheless, perhaps the question: with your new role, do you also have a personal wish or goal to do things differently? What are you most looking forward to personally? Where do you think you might want to set your accents?
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Stephan Bross9:12
I will certainly do it differently. It's hard to do the whole thing better, especially when you have such a good predecessor. But I will certainly do it differently. Nevertheless, the basic orientation and the goals of Wissensfabrik remain the same. Everyone has their own style, everyone has their own focus. We already discussed in the steering committee that I think we also need to better use the possibilities—the technical possibilities that digitalization offers us, or that social networks offer us—to further increase our visibility, to recruit more doers, more members. That will certainly be a task I am very much looking forward to. Yes, because that means expanding the network and truly increasing our sphere of influence.
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Claudia Gut10:05
I think you are taking over Wissensfabrik at a great time. As difficult as Corona was for all of us and unfortunately still is—the topic is not over yet—we as Wissensfabrik were also able to use it and launched many new formats, digitalizing a lot. This year is very exciting because we are launching so many new educational projects. I look forward to working with you on these things and seeing what else exciting we can achieve. Certainly, Corona was a catalyst for technological progress that would have come but certainly not so quickly. One can, of course, debate whether a pandemic with all its human tragedies was necessary to drive the topic forward, but if we set that aspect aside, it really was an accelerator. I also hope that the topic of homeschooling and the necessary conditions that should have been created in schools will contribute to bringing STEM education into stronger focus at education ministries and also at companies. We keep seeing that if you don't have employees who are flexible and affine enough to tackle these topics, we won't be able to shape the future. So Corona certainly as an accelerator.
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Stephan Bross11:44
First, I wish for open ears. We are still approaching companies to become members of Wissensfabrik, and there I want open ears at the C-level. Why at the C-level? Because the topic of Wissensfabrik must be a matter of the heart, carried by management from the very top. We keep seeing that whenever crises or cutbacks occur, participation in CSR activities is the first thing to be cut. If we succeed in planting this idea not only in a company but also in its management, then there is a chance that it will be sustainable. So specifically: send us your phone numbers, send us the contacts, and ensure we get an open ear. We'll take care of the rest. Second point: Wissensfabrik is work, you have to know that. You don't just adorn yourself with a logo because it's chic and because you need it for your CSR activities, but because you are convinced of it. That means you are not just a paying member—we need that, that's a given—but we need employees, we need doers, we need engaged employees in companies who drive such educational partnerships, who are willing to support startups, who are willing to provide advice and assistance. And that's why it's work, and you have to be ready for that. I also specifically wish from industry that they plan this as part of their budget and make it available to us. Third, if I can have three wishes: that such questions come more often—what can industry do to support us? For that, there is a website; we have an excellent communications department (Mrs. Einzel, whom you have already met). We are also reachable via social media, via our website. Ask us, contact us, and offer us your help.
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Claudia Gut14:36
I'd like to add to that. As a board member responsible for all topics, I have a particular passion for communication. I think we have developed immensely in terms of how we communicate for Wissensfabrik, how we use various channels. Today, digital channels, social media platforms, and the like have a much greater importance than was the case a few years ago. And if I may come back to the question of what we can do for our network: I wish that all of you give us even more visibility through your activities on social media. Follow Wissensfabrik, share posts from Wissensfabrik, maybe write your own posts or take part in events we invite you to, forward the invitations. I think we can all contribute to spreading our awareness and our network even more broadly. And it's become so easy these days—sometimes it's just one click, a thumbs up, or a smiley. That can work wonders here. Very simple things where I believe we would all be happy if our supporters, our network, actively participate.
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Stephan Bross16:14
That is certainly a good approach. I believe if we want to strengthen entrepreneurship, we also need successful entrepreneurship. And since we operate in an economic environment, the topic of economic education is part of it. Whether we will focus more on that, we will discuss in the steering committee and with the board. In my opinion, it belongs there. In what way we can promote it, we will see. I think that with the new formats we are now launching in the education area, for example 'City for Future,' we might be able to educate students holistically or give them the opportunity to educate themselves further. Because it's not just about energy topics, it's not just about change and sustainability; the projects are designed in such a way—let me come back to 'City for Future'—that we basically also incorporate a culture of debate, discussion, democracy in the sense of a city council meeting that students then play virtually and debate their proposals and have to find a consensus. So these are wonderful projects and wonderful approaches to provide tangible and very real education beyond concrete STEM topics. And I think that's why the projects are also fun.
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Claudia Gut17:43
I'm really looking forward to the launch of these new projects. Fittingly, another question comes up: Mr. Bross, which of all the Wissensfabrik formats is your favorite, and why?
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Stephan Bross18:00
Difficult question. The Solomonic answer is, of course, all of them. But two topics are especially close to my heart. One is the topic of STEM education, early childhood education, and there I am particularly looking forward to the AI modules. AI modules because they start very early. Artificial intelligence first needs human intelligence, so if you want to implement AI, you have to deal with certain structures and teach that to children: recognizing patterns, recognizing rules, which later can be implemented in AI. It is, thank God, not a black box where you throw something in and something comes out; you need inputs for that. I am especially looking forward to that because I believe, besides manual skills, you need a lot of brain structures that you can promote there. I was just a guest in the first breakout session: healthy, structured thinking is a basic requirement for artificial intelligence. If we manage to embed that, I think it's particularly excellent. On the other hand, the topic of entrepreneurship, like 'Komm, mach Mint'—accompanying young founders to realize their ideas and get them running, getting involved themselves, and never asking yourself why you didn't come up with the idea yourself. That's fun.
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Claudia Gut19:41
What do you think is needed in terms of support, structures, offerings to promote this entrepreneurial spirit, the joy of founding, further in Germany and beyond such a format?
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Stephan Bross19:56
It needs a corresponding ecosystem. Founders need start-up capital. The whole topic can be untangled and made less bureaucratic. That's what is needed to access venture capital and founder capital. It needs a network. It's always like jumping into cold water, and if you have a network where you feel supported, where you can ask questions even when there are bumps in the road, that's needed. And it also needs acceptance of failure. We heard earlier: only those who are brave will start a business. And that sometimes includes taking a wrong step and then getting up again and going again. They like to say: if you've never failed in your life, you weren't brave or innovative enough; you always stayed on safe ground. I think culturally in Germany we still have a few steps ahead of us.
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Claudia Gut20:58
Well, but it shouldn't be that you keep doing the same thing and then nothing becomes of it. I have another fitting question from the audience. From your experience as a mentor—you are very active in our format with founders—what is the most important advice you like to give to startups?
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Stephan Bross21:23
I already mentioned courage, but also consistency. Most founders have an idea, a vision, either well-considered or from the gut. In the course of developing such a startup, the boundary conditions change; larger companies approach you, and very quickly there is the temptation to sell the idea early before it is really implemented, or to give up founding altogether. Stay consistent and stick with it and actually implement the idea as you originally had it. And if I look at the successful ones, those who did that consistently were the successful ones.
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Claudia Gut22:15
We still have a few minutes. Allow me to get a bit more personal, Mr. Bross. We would all like to get to know you better as a person. Would you tell us what hobbies you have, whether you do sports, or what other things are your passions in your private life?
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Stephan Bross22:35
So, I like to do sports. I am an endurance athlete, though with increasing age not as intensive and devoted as before. But I still enjoy it. We have two children who are demanding and take up their time. So of course, first and foremost is the topic of family. When time is left, then comes sports, as I already said.
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Claudia Gut23:02
I think this endurance—you didn't phrase it that way during the handover—we are not in a sprint but perhaps in a marathon that certainly still lies ahead of us in several stages in Wissensfabrik. I believe we have found exactly the right man with you at our helm. Dear Mr. Bross, many thanks for the conversation, for what you shared with us, for your impressions, your ideas. I look forward to advancing Wissensfabrik, STEM education, and entrepreneurship together with you in the coming years. Many thanks also to everyone who actively participated with their questions and followed our conversation. We will now meet again for the conclusion of the breakout sessions, coming back together in the main room. Thank you, thank you.