About Anne Rigail
In a March 2022 conference, Anne Rigail discussed Air France's recovery from the COVID-19 pandemic and the impact of geopolitical uncertainty on the airline. She stated that Air France had received 7 billion euros in state-backed loans and was required to meet commitments on competitiveness and the environment, but had not committed to purchasing only Airbus aircraft. Rigail noted that business travel demand had declined, with corporate clients making up about 40% of passengers in March 2022, and acknowledged the uncertainty surrounding future demand.
Rigail also addressed the airline's environmental impact, stating that air transport accounts for approximately 2.6% of CO2 emissions, but warned that without action this could rise to over 20% by 2050. She discussed Air France's use of sustainable aviation fuels and the company's position on a European kerosene tax. Additionally, Rigail encouraged women to pursue careers in aviation and technology, noting that the airline was hiring for digital and data roles.
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Interview set. Anne Rigail, as the big voice just said, hello, hello, you are the CEO of Air France. Thank you for accepting this invitation. Let me just add a small aside: those of you in the room, those following us online, stay connected because right after this interview, and you'll see Anne has a lot to say, the minister in charge of disabled and elderly people, Fadila Khattabi, will be here on this stage for the closing remarks. So stay connected, and those who might be in the live corridors of the Maison de la Radio, I invite you to join us. Anne Rigail, I come back to you. Before you became CEO, you were Director of Customer Experience, and that caught my attention because when we chose together the topics we would discuss today, I had the feeling, maybe I'm wrong, but without any flattery, you at Air France are very attached to the customer experience, and taking the prism of accessibility through that angle, am I wrong? Or you're not going to tell me I'm wrong.
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Anne Rigail0:14
No, I would not allow myself to say that. And yes, I spent my entire professional life in the terminals at Orly and Roissy, alongside the flight attendants and stewards, and then in customer experience as you just said, so with a common thread that is the customer. And obviously among the customers, all customers with disabilities have always been part of our concerns when we define an offer on the ground or on board, and I must say more and more systematically and naturally, even if we are not at the end of the road, of course.
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So can we take the ordinary traveler journey to understand at what point you, Air France, intervene in the user journey? Already there is the moment when I call the reservation center or when I do it on my mobile or website, at that moment I can declare that I have a specific assistance need. You tell me...
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Anne Rigail0:14
Exactly, we have regulations that depend on the country. We operate in 100 different countries, so we adapt, and 200 airport destinations. So I will perhaps talk about European regulations. The logic is that all airports with more than 150,000 passengers per year, so the vast majority, it is the airport operator that takes care of the customer with a disability and brings them to the plane. And it is at the moment they are on the plane that the airline takes over with the flight attendants and stewards that you know well. But the airline is in charge of receiving the assistance request. So we received last year 700,000 assistance requests of all kinds, and we transmit them to the airport operators. So we ask to receive them as early as possible to anticipate well, 48 hours before, and we strive to transmit them to the airport operator 36 hours before. So on board a plane, we are able to transport an assistance dog, a service dog, a guide dog. We are able to travel with one's wheelchair or not yet.
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So that is one of the major issues we are working on, especially for the Paralympics. Obviously, one of the challenges is that our customers who have personal wheelchairs and want to keep them as long as possible can actually use them up to the plane and get them back as soon as they get off the plane. It is a logistical challenge that is quite complicated, it depends obviously on the weight of the wheelchair. If it is a carbon athlete's wheelchair, it is not very complicated to transport. If it is a wheelchair that weighs several hundred kilos, it is much more complicated. But one of the challenges is to be able to return these wheelchairs to our customers who have personal wheelchairs as close as possible to arrival. We have been working with Paris Airports on this since last fall. We are going to do tests and we hope to further improve the processes at the airport and keep, finally, we talk a lot about legacy, it's a bit cliché, but really as a legacy of these games, a real improvement in this regard. We will also talk about wheelchairs and equipment entrusted that are sometimes damaged or even completely broken. Whose responsibility is that, and how can we get around this problem?
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Anne Rigail0:14
So very clearly, in any case, it is the airline that is responsible, even if the airport operators intervene, but the handling is done by our service providers. It is obviously always an event, fortunately exceptional, but we are fully aware of the absolutely terrible impact it can have on our customers in such cases. So we are also working to be able to indicate to the service providers how to handle these wheelchairs. We offer our customers to fill out labels that indicate the lifting points of the wheelchairs. Then obviously when this type of accident happens, even if it is exceptional, one of the challenges is compensation as quickly as possible and that goes beyond regulations because aviation regulations provide that we compensate a wheelchair with the same caps as luggage. However, these wheelchairs can represent considerable sums of money. And it's crazy, the regulation is the regulation, which is why we go beyond. You go beyond. Okay, I'm not going to ask you how much, you don't necessarily have a figure each time, it's a specific case that we look at in a specific way.
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Or we can talk about employment at your company and the place of disability in the Air France group overall. How many employees with disabilities? Because it seems to be an extremely distant environment when you have a disability, you think it's far from our capabilities, etc. What is the culture on this? We change and we drift a bit from the subject, but it's a question that seems important to me.
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Anne Rigail0:14
Indeed, we have responsibilities as a carrier but also as an employer. Air France is the largest private employer in Île-de-France. And employment of personnel with disabilities is a real concern in the positive sense of the term. Focus: we have 1,800 employees that we support, obviously through workplace adaptations, through a real focus in our recruitment. It is a real target. Clearly, we have disability agreements, support, facilitation, an internal association, the Goéland association, which allows us to train as many of our staff as possible. We also have cabin crew, and also managers for cabin crew for the reception of our customers, but also for our managers to best adapt positions, conditions, the retention of our employees.
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Last question on the upcoming games. How are you going to absorb this load thanks to your Saphir service, which this year I believe is celebrating its 20th anniversary? We didn't mention it, but it's important. How are you going to absorb the overload? Is it a challenge? Did you have to recruit more? Are you ready?
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Anne Rigail0:14
Yes, we are in the industry in a positive recruitment phase, but we have 1,000 additional staff for the Games, both in the terminals and among the commercial cabin crew. So yes, we are organizing, hand in hand with Paris Airports. We are very proud to already be a partner of these Games, the first Paralympic Games in France. One of the challenges will be to welcome as smoothly as possible, to transport as best as possible the equipment, the wheelchairs of our athletes. And very clearly, we are preparing with the ambition to keep as a legacy a real improvement of these reception processes. We try to identify the delegations, it's 4,500 Paralympic athletes that we expect, it's also, I believe, 3.5 million spectators who will come for the Paralympic Games. So it's a huge logistical organization, a lot of responsibility, a lot of pressure, but positive pressure because we are obviously extremely proud to welcome and to offer check-in at the Olympic villages and delegations. We really try to facilitate the handling of both luggage and athletes and spectators in the best conditions. Baggage check-in is already possible today at check-in in some partner hotels in Paris. We are training, but we will offer to free up time for athletes and delegations to come to the Olympic village so that we can take care of them, I would say pre-check-in, so that when they arrive at the airport, they are a little relieved of all these worries.
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Thank you, Anne Rigail, I remind you, CEO of Air France. Thank you. We can give her a warm round of applause. Thank you.