Kati Pallasaho19:33
Yeah, we talked about the different kinds of materials and what would be the development that would be needed in that front, not only in textiles but also in other types of materials that we are using in our products. Earlier I also mentioned about consumer behavior. So us as consumers, we need to challenge ourselves when it comes to the narrative of owning things. We own a lot of things, and if we think, are we really actively using all the different kinds of products that we have in our closets? If we're talking about clothes or different types of textiles, or for example the different other products that we own, I don't know how often you use a screwdriver from your closet, or could that be something that you actually rent when you need it? So us as consumers, we need to challenge the narrative of owning and consider other ways of getting access to the products when we need it, whether that is by sharing or by leasing. Do you always need to buy a new one? Could you maybe consider buying pre-owned, pre-loved? So that's one thing. The second thing, then, when it comes to different kinds of businesses manufacturing products, is how do we overall design for durability, for example, so that the products would have as long a lifetime as possible? How do we also design for repairability, reusability, recyclability? These kinds of product design principles. Then earlier also mentioned about what is the type of business that a corporation is in. Is the corporation in a business that tries to only sell as much as possible, or is it maybe a combination of selling something and then also providing additional services when it comes to repairing, or possibly even operating with a similar kind of business model than what we are offering? We don't sell, we rent. So it might be also a completely new type of earning logic for businesses. Then if we think of materials development, if we think about recycling, when a product comes to the end of its life cycle, it could be that there are new types of partnerships needed. I mentioned that locally in the different countries where we operate, we have searched for partnerships that help us to reach our recycling goals, but then that's also business for other corporations, as we are able to provide them with the raw material, and that's an important feedstock for their operations. And then I think that the EU is driving forward this change in circularity as well, and we also need a push from the governments so that there would be acceleration toward the circular economy. I think for example France has been doing really well offering incentives to consumers to use more services to repair different kinds of products, and thus we are able to avoid that the products end up in landfill. So I'd say it's many different kinds of things that need to change, from consumer behavior to the way businesses operate, all the way to the different kinds of incentives that governments would be offering.