Friedrich Baumann7:42
That is one of the critical points overall. It is also a lot of feedback I get from our customers who tell me they are already ready to invest in this new technology and drive the transformation. But can you, as MAN, guarantee that I can charge or refuel with hydrogen when I need to? That remains a major hurdle that we need to overcome as quickly as possible for the transformation to really get rolling. However, there are other examples. One of our major customers is already part of our exclusive early fleet that will go to market in 2024. They are already planning routes that cover over 800 km per day. So there is already proof that these ranges are possible, but you have to plan the routes accordingly, which we support with our consulting, so that they have the appropriate charging points along the way to charge and discharge the vehicle. That is all possible if the will is there. But we need significantly more investment in charging infrastructure, especially for commercial applications. A typical charging station for a passenger car is of little use to us. We need 700 or preferably 1 megawatt charging possibilities, as many as possible. We have also made investments together with Volvo and Daimler Truck to really get this going through Milence. I will be opening another public charging station in Belgium in the coming days, but that is just a drop in the bucket. In the end, if we assume that by 2030 we will put half of the vehicles we produce on the road as electrified vehicles, we need about 30,000 to 50,000 of these high-performance charging stations in Europe. With Milence, we are aiming for 1,700, but that gives you an idea of how big the gap actually is to ensure a truly viable infrastructure. Similar applies to hydrogen; we need somewhere between 900 and 1,000 hydrogen refueling stations in Europe to guarantee that. I believe it will always be a mix for the emission-free future to succeed: a mix of electromobility, hydrogen, and also technologies like bidirectional charging, depot charging, and other technologies that will hopefully emerge in the coming years to enable fast megawatt charging. We should also not forget that we will probably need intermediate storage to always have the energy available when the vehicle arrives at the charging station.