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Mohit Kabra
Group Chief Operating Officer, MakeMyTrip Limited

Foreign Travel To Get Expensive From July 1: MakeMyTrip's Mohit Kabra On LRS Impact | Trading Hour

🎥 May 18, 2023 📺 CNBC-TV18 ⏱ 7m
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Interviewer0:00
Of course, a wide section of social media, travelers have been trying to navigate through the developments on LRS and the fact that we now have to pay 20% TCS on any credit card transaction for foreign spend or purchase. Now it seems this 20% TCS limit will apply even for international bookings made through an Indian tour operator. How does that work? Let's ask Mohit Kabra, the group CFO of MakeMyTrip. Thanks Mohit for joining. This story has been going on for the past 36 hours. Help us understand. Yesterday it seemed 20% TCS kicks in when you're traveling overseas, shopping, or making a dollar or euro transaction in India. So how is it that booking a holiday package or ticket on MakeMyTrip for an overseas destination incurs 20% TCS even though the transaction is in Indian rupees?
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Mohit Kabra1:14
Let me explain. The current provision has TCS at about 5%, and it's supposed to increase to 20% from July 1st. Currently, when a customer books in INR with domestic travel agents, the agents internally remit in foreign currency to the service provider overseas. The banks remitting this money ask for TCS compliance, so while it's not levied at the first payment from the customer, it becomes applicable at the second leg where the Indian travel agent remits money. Therefore, travel agents need to take it from customers when they book on their platforms or offline. It pretty much gets levied.
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Interviewer2:22
Got that. For clarity, if you were paying two lakh rupees to book a foreign trip, there was still a 5% TCS, and that same 5% becomes 20% now. So instead of 100 rupees, you will charge us 120 rupees. Is that how it works?
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Mohit Kabra2:49
Correct. Right now it was 105, no, it will become 120. Another provision that has been removed: previously there was an exemption of up to seven lakhs for travel bookings other than a tour package. So for an overseas hotel booking, the customer would not have paid the 5% TCS because of the exemption limit. But for a tour package, they always paid 5%. Now because the exemption limit has been withdrawn, practically all overseas travel spends will require customers to fork out an additional 20% in terms of cash flow. However, it's not an additional cost; it's more a cash flow issue because it needs to be paid upfront and you get the credit in your Form 26AS.
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Interviewer3:47
The question is of the refund of the 20% tax collected. Does the onus of getting the money back lie with the customer? Does he have to claim it when filing taxes, or does he reach out to MakeMyTrip for a refund?
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Mohit Kabra4:07
Pretty much seamless. The travel agent, MakeMyTrip in this case, remits the TCS to the treasury on the customer's behalf, and it gets reflected in the customer's Form 26AS, which is the tax credits form. They can immediately utilize it for adjustment against advance tax payments or their eventual tax liability at year-end. So either it gets offset against tax liabilities or they can claim a refund if the amount exceeds their actual tax payouts.
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Interviewer4:44
Okay, oh God, that Mohit, that's sobering news. Till yesterday we thought it was only applicable if you were booking through a foreign travel website and transacting in dollars and euros.
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Mohit Kabra4:56
Yeah, no, no. See, it was a specific demand from the travel industry. Until now, because credit cards were kept out of the ambit, a lot of foreign travel was being booked on global platforms, escaping the TCS levy. Indian platforms or travel agents were coming out more expensive. Now there will be parity because across the board, whether a customer books on overseas platforms, directly with overseas suppliers, or with Indian travel agents, the TCS levy will be the same – the same 20% if that rate goes through. The only other anomaly that remains to be resolved is that when a customer books in INR on an Indian platform, the platform charges the TCS up front, so we collect about 120% on the platform. But when a customer books directly with an overseas hotel, he still pays only 100%, and the 20% will be levied on his card by the issuing bank later. That creates a potential shift in business because he sees 120 on Indian platforms and 100 on overseas direct bookings or platforms. We have been requesting that the entire administrative procedure of ensuring TCS levy should be centralized at the banks; the card-issuing bank should collect the TCS irrespective of whether the booking is on Indian platforms, overseas platforms, or directly with an overseas supplier. That would ensure a level playing field, parity in pricing, and no apparent price differences for the customer. That's the only other issue that remains to be addressed.
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Interviewer6:51
Yes, optics do matter. When you say 120, people are inclined to click on it absolutely, but we take your point. Let's see how this matter is discussed and how financial institutions actually operationalize it. Thank you very much for joining with some quick thoughts. We're completely out of time on this edition of Trading Hour. That's a wrap, but do stay tuned. All the action continues; Half Time Report is coming up next.