Emese Weissenbacher27:46
Well, maybe I'll start with the second question. In our discussions, diversity comes from my personal view but also from MANN+HUMMEL's view quite short: it is very strongly reduced to the topic of gender. Gender mix good, then diversity is checked off. Gender mix bad, then diversity is bad. And if we look at our management team, we see different nationalities. We have a Czech colleague, someone from Cameroon, our CEO is American, we have a Norwegian, I am Hungarian from Romania. We are of different ages. That's how we understand diversity. What is important is that each of us, as I mentioned earlier, moves through the world with open eyes, open ears, and a keen mind. Coming back to the topic of women's advancement: I think it is important that every young woman acquires the realization that 'can' begins with 'want'. What I sometimes observe is that some young women are not yet ready to really want to take responsibility. Taking responsibility requires going the extra mile, and for that you also need support in the form of mentors. Over the years, I have had many mentors; my supervisors were also my mentors, and by the way, they were all men. Last but not least, it is also important that young women build a network behind and around them so that all the topics that come up alongside the job, like organizing family life, children, can also be well caught. Because the truth is that women still take on the majority of child-rearing and housework, no matter how well they divide it with their partner or husband. And the truth is also that when we look at gender diversity in our company, where we need to take action, it's more in the technical professions: R&D, manufacturing, IT. And why is that? The pool of female talent for these professions is simply much, much smaller than that of male applicants. Here, I think Germany needs to do more to promote STEM subjects much more so that we naturally have the young talent we need. When I look around our societies in Europe, we have good examples outside Germany, in Spain or the Czech Republic, for example. In Spain, almost the entire management team is female: production management, quality management, work preparation, development is led by a woman. So there are really good examples, and that means it is possible.