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Ilaria Resta
Chief Executive Officer (Global), Audemars Piguet Holding SA

Ilaria Resta: The Future of the Luxury Watch Market and Audemars Piguet | E149

🎥 Feb 03, 2025 📺 Randall Kaplan - In Search of Excellence ⏱ 35m 👁 820 views
Ilaria Resta is the CEO of Audemars Piguet, one of the world’s oldest and most exclusive luxury watch brands, renowned for its tradition of craftsmanship and innovation. Before leading AP, Ilaria served as President and CEO of Firmenich, a family-owned Swiss company that creates perfumes for iconic brands like Saint Laurent, Gucci, and Hugo Boss, with annual revenues exceeding $3 billion. Her career began at Procter & Gamble, where she spent 23 years shaping some of the most recognizable consumer brands, including Tide, Pantene, and Head & Shoulders. Born and raised in Naples, Italy, Ilaria’s...
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Transcript (39 segments)
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Ilaria Resta0:00
The three most important qualities are: love what you do or fall in love with what you do, learn which becomes more difficult as you grow, and legacy. Define each year what legacy will survive you, making business, people, organization, and relationships better, but set something achievable, measurable, and concrete.
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Randall Kaplan0:42
You're listening to part two of my incredible interview with Ilaria Resta, CEO of Audemars Piguet. If you haven't yet listened to part one, be sure to check that out first. Now, without further ado, here's part two.
Everyone watching who's not a watch collector wants to know: how much do these cost? Let me go through some stats on you and your competitors. Rolex average price: $3,562; Cartier: $634; Omega: $7,295; Patek Philippe: $44,988; AP: $53,723; Richard Mille: over $200,000. Who is your typical customer and what's the percentage between men and women?
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Ilaria Resta1:46
We don't have a typical customer, but I can back you in clusters. There are collectors building thoughtful collections, people buying to celebrate life stages, using watches as memory holders, and stylers choosing for aesthetic appearance. We are underdeveloped with women, below 20% of buyers, but by 2030, 45% of women will buy mechanical watches. Younger generations are getting interested, even bringing their fathers into watchmaking.
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Randall Kaplan4:57
Finding an AP watch is a process. I went to an AP store, and nothing was for sale. I did research and spoke to Leslie Cameron, who was great. I had to build trust, showing I'm not going to flip the watch. I collect art and have been an art collector for 25 years. I don't flip pieces. For example, I bought a piece of art for $80,000 and could have sold it for $250,000, but I didn't because I love it.
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Ilaria Resta6:00
Let me answer in the simplest way. If we were in the business of revenue, all this would happen. But we are in a business of relationship and passion for quality. We want this way of doing business to perpetuate for 150 years. Building a relationship takes time, like in marriage. We service watches from dates hundred years ago, and our clients become part of the AP family. At Le Brassus, watchmakers have a high level of attachment, and we ensure highest standards of excellence.
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Randall Kaplan9:02
Sorry to embarrass you, Leslie, but what's the process there? I knew she was calling you. Let me answer: if we were revenue-driven, this wouldn't happen. Our obsession is relationships and passion for quality. I'm here to make sure this business style lasts for 150 years. You don't propose marriage immediately; you build a relationship. We call our clients AP family. Le Brassus production is manual with emotion. One watchmaker asked me to bring back a watch to say goodbye. The attachment is high, and we create relationships. It takes months or years to develop watches.
It's interesting when you talk about prices. $53,000 for the average watch. I was in Vegas at Leor's store, and they showed me a $400,000 watch, which I'm not doing now. But every customer is a millionaire or not financially responsible because you need high income to afford such watches. Some watches are $100,000 to $130,000, so people have high net worth coming in.
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Ilaria Resta12:06
The figure you mentioned is an average; we have different prices. It's not our entry price, but we have lower as well. The prices range depending on complication, development, and materials. We just launched the Universelle, the most complicated Royal Oak watch, which won the Grand Prix de Genève. It's over a million and takes at least two years to assemble manually. In Switzerland, you can visit and see your watch under development. The price is connected to the overall value equation.
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Randall Kaplan13:26
You look at a Birkin bag; you can't get one unless you spend. There's a class action lawsuit filed in March 2024 saying this is monopolistic behavior. When you saw that lawsuit, what were you thinking? Are you worried AP may face the same issue with high-quality watchmakers?
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Ilaria Resta14:08
We don't ask people to buy certain amounts or create connections. I won't enter the Hermès case. In our case, we have a certain production capacity based on excellence. If we assembled watches online with zero human power, copied calibers, or used cheaper materials, we could produce more. We decided to produce less to aim at the highest standards, making choices. We welcome all clients, but it's a matter of time when we can serve them. We are not into bundling.
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Randall Kaplan15:18
For limited supply watches like yours, demand is usually greater than supply. During COVID, wealthy people had nothing to spend on, so they bought luxury goods. Prices went up on the secondary market. Watches like the Royal Oak were going for five times their value. There's an opportunity to sell watches for a lot of money. Luxury watches over the last five years have beaten the S&P 500. Our watch is going up.
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Ilaria Resta16:03
Watches have always been an asset class like many other luxury brands. What matters more is the innovation and craftsmanship behind the watch. I don't buy, and most of our clients don't buy thinking of an asset class. They think about the usage and importance in their collection and life.
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Randall Kaplan16:31
There's a huge secondary resale market for luxury watches, estimated at $25 billion a year. That's revenue you could be collecting. There's talk of you starting a secondary watch market. Is that happening or going to happen?
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Ilaria Resta16:56
We're working on a project to offer certification of our watches and the chance to renew collections. We are thinking how and if this proposition can work. If it works in the next years, we will launch it.
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Randall Kaplan17:21
There's a company slogan: 'To break the rules, you must first master them.' Is that true?
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Ilaria Resta17:31
It depends on the company. It was true for us and still is. We are a rule breaker in a positive sense. In history, Audemars Piguet has been edgy to try things that didn't make sense. For example, the Royal Oak was a rule breaker: 39mm diameter was gigantic, called 'jumbo,' launched during the quartz crisis. It was received with mixed feelings but became successful. We also launched the thinness perpetual calendar, focusing on high complication. Our marketing campaigns and collaborations push boundaries. We have a witty spirit, not taking ourselves seriously, yet our job is serious. We experiment with materials like ceramics that can be destroyed easily.
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Randall Kaplan19:38
We've talked about extreme preparation. What are three of the most important qualities that lead to future success?
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Ilaria Resta20:05
I have three guiding words: love, learn, and legacy. Love what you do or fall in love with it. Learn, which becomes harder with age due to less time or arrogance. Make learning accessible to others. Legacy: define each year what will survive you, making things better. Set achievable, measurable, and concrete legacy every year. I judge my people on the legacy they leave behind.
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Randall Kaplan21:41
You talk about women in the workforce. You're one of only two female CEOs in luxury watch business. Tell us about your acknowledgment on Women's International Day and your message to women in the workforce who want successful careers.
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Ilaria Resta22:01
Find mentors and supporters. Don't be shy in asking for help. Women often fear asking for help because it feels inappropriate. Cast a broad net for support. Be extremely vocal on what you want. I was relegated to event organizer after maternity leave at P&G, which was a killer. For my second maternity, I learned the lesson: I want a job as big if not bigger. Speak up if injustice is done. Start talking about your life in terms of choices, not sacrifices. Being at the driving seat of your life is key.
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Randall Kaplan24:21
You have a huge job, two teenagers, your husband from home. You've talked about sacrifices and guilt. Do you have any general advice for women or men on work-life balance?
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Ilaria Resta24:39
Again, it needs to be a choice. If it's a sacrifice, it doesn't work long-term. It creates tensions. You set the wrong example for your kids. My role is positive: I tell my kids about my day, sharing visibility of the world. I want them to see it's possible to have a satisfying working life and be a mother. I felt guilty with my mother for this lifestyle, but it's all about choices. Make choices and get the most out of them.
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Randall Kaplan26:02
You make watches named after people like John Mayer. Why, and when are you going to make the Randall Kaplan watch?
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Ilaria Resta26:17
First, we're going to make the Randall Kaplan watch when you come to Le Brassus. Jokes aside, John Mayer is a great collaboration. He's a collector, connoisseur, and close to us, providing inputs. He's a creative conduit, bringing collector perspectives. I offered him the role of creative conduit. He pushed boundaries with materials and perpetual calendar. I don't do collaborations just for celebrity names; they must bring value. We did a collaboration with KAWS, the artist.
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Randall Kaplan27:49
The KAWS watch just came out with a big party. I believe the retail price is $220,000, correct?
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Ilaria Resta28:00
It's a concept tourbillon with the Companion attached to the sapphire crystal. We developed a new movement with peripheral time display to leave space for the Companion. It's inspired by KAWS' work.
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Randall Kaplan28:43
We're at the end of the show. I always finish with a game called 'Fill the Blanks to Excellence.' Are you ready to play?
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Ilaria Resta28:50
Ready to play. Biggest lesson learned: stay humble. Number one professional goal: leave a legacy on people. Biggest regret: not traveling more. Biggest fear: not having enough time to travel. Proudest moment of my career: now. When you landed this job as CEO, what did your mom say? She said she couldn't believe it but could believe it, and she was proud. My dad would be extremely proud. Craziest thing in career: when former team members write love letters and bring tears. It's the most rewarding part of my job. Funniest thing: I mix up names of people. Best advice: observe first, then listen. Worst advice: you should change your posture. 10 years from now: I hope doing this job. 20 years: teaching university. One trait for success: learning desire. Most important to success: learning, desire, curiosity. One thing dreamed of: teaching at university. Advice to 21-year-old self: keep changing aspects in your work and leave when comfortable. Meet one person: my father. That's beautiful.
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Randall Kaplan31:07
I have two more questions. One question you wish I asked but didn't is...
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Ilaria Resta31:33
It's all questions related to my personality. Who are you as a woman? I am like a curious cat, someone who leaves and breathes knowledge and discovery. I'm a connector.
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Randall Kaplan32:02
As a new customer and someone new to the luxury watch market, are there any questions you like to ask me that other potential or new watch buyers would like to hear the answer to?
How do you feel wearing this watch? It gives me feelings. I get up in the morning and choosing a watch makes me feel great. It's beautiful and personal, wearing it on my body. From a humble background, affording an expensive watch is meaningful. I love looking at my watches; they speak to me in different ways. When I go to your store, I want to buy more. I was impulsive in Las Vegas, and Leor sold me re-watches. I'm grateful. It represents hard work and success. Collecting art was like that, and now watches are aspirational. My podcasts inspire people to do better, and watches are aspirational. It makes me feel great.
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Ilaria Resta34:44
Wow, I should hire you as our spokesperson! Amazing, it's been amazing.
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Randall Kaplan34:51
Thank you. I appreciate you answering my cold email. It says a lot about you. I'm a huge fan.
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Ilaria Resta34:56
Me too. I'm grateful for your time.
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Randall Kaplan34:58
Thank you so much for being here. It's truly a pleasure and honor to meet you in person.
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Ilaria Resta35:02
Thank you, Randall. A great pleasure to be here, and I hope I helped somebody get good advice.
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Randall Kaplan35:09
Awesome.