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Chairman, bet365 Group Ltd

Peter Coates - Memories of Sir Stanley Matthews

🎥 Jan 29, 2015 📺 The Sentinel ⏱ 9m 👁 768 views
Stoke City Chairman Peter Coates talks about his friendship and footballing memories of Sir Stanley Matthews.
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Transcript (26 segments)
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Interviewer0:00
Peter, tell us about your earliest memories of Stanley Matthews.
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Peter Coates0:01
Well, they would be very young. It would be after the war, so I'd be some sort of eight, something like that, eight or nine, that sort of age. But I used to be taken occasionally to Stoke City with my brothers. I came from a large family, and there was a gap between me and the next brother because we had quite a lot of sisters. My elder brothers used to take me to Stoke. I always remember it was the Victoria Ground, which was a bank, a tip, and they'd find a good place so that I could see the game. And that would be my very early memories of that Stoke City team after the war, when the great man played.
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Interviewer0:50
Can you remember the anguish when he left for Blackpool? Did you get a feel of that at that age?
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Peter Coates0:54
Well, I'd be pretty young, but I know there were a lot of concern about it. Because we talked a lot of football at home, as they did in places like Golden Hill. Football was a big topic of conversation, and yeah, there were people weren't happy that he was leaving.
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Interviewer1:13
And at Blackpool he enjoyed great success, and I guess the pinnacle was the '53 final, the Matthews final. Did you catch any of that on television?
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Peter Coates1:22
I actually saw it on television. We hadn't got a television, but we went to a relative's, named Doyle's in Golden Hill, in the back streets. I can remember, I could take you to the house now if it's still there. I'm not sure, I think some of them still survive, but it's changed such a lot. And it was a pretty crowded living room when we all saw what a dramatic final it was. It's gone down in history, it was one of the great post-war finals.
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Interviewer1:51
Did people still around here still feel a pride in what he was achieving, at a level you still considered him a son of the Potteries?
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Peter Coates1:59
Well, he was like, we know he's our most famous football son, and there's always been great interest in him. Because there have been very few names, if any, more iconic than Stanley Matthews in terms of English football. He's up there with just a few.
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Interviewer2:19
And of course eventually he does come back to Stoke City in the early '60s. Tell us about the joy and the impact that had on the earth.
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Peter Coates2:27
Well, that had an amazing impact because the crowd went up. You probably can find the figures, I can't remember them off the top of my head, but they were dramatic, the change that had taken place. And the feel-good factor around the city that he was coming back. So yes, it created a huge anticipation and a feeling, a really good feeling.
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Interviewer2:55
What was it like to watch? I know he was getting on a bit. What was it like to watch him live?
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Peter Coates3:00
Well, he was an amazing player, and he would have been an amazing player today. I take the view that you can only be the best in your own time, and I've had that view a very long time. But I'm equally certain that, remember, he was a very fine athlete. He was a man before his time. He was into diet and he didn't drink. He was into all sorts of stretching and things that are now commonplace. So he was a very intelligent guy who wanted to look after himself and wanted to play for a long time. He achieved that, but he was clearly a man who thought a lot about the game and a lot about fitness and the best way to extend his career.
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Interviewer3:46
It seems unthinkable now that a man of 50 was still playing professional football. Was it mind-boggling even then?
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Peter Coates3:51
Well, it is a record, and I can tell you a little story which he told me, and he told me with a straight face, but I was never quite sure. But I think he was very serious when he told me. He said that I was chatting with him in the boardroom, because he was the president of the club, and I used to see him a bit. I've taken him out for dinner, and so I got to know him very well, and we became good friends. And he did say, he said, one of the mistakes I made, I retired too early. I'd, I've got two more years in me. Whether Tony Waddington agreed with that I shall never know, because I never asked him. But those were very much from his lips, and I remember smiling when he told me the story. Retired too early at 50. He said yes, yes.
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Interviewer4:38
What were his gifts as a player, summing him up, what were his great gifts as a footballer?
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Peter Coates4:43
Well, he had wonderful pace, you know. As a boy, his record for the hundred yards was very impressive. So he was a fine athlete and a fine sprinter, and so he got pace. But he got this surge of pace, you know, this quick ten yards where he could just go, he just left you. And sometimes they were on the back foot because he dazzled them with his bit of skill. But he got wonderful balance. You look at a good player, you've got that wonderful whatever about you, and you'll see old shots of him and you can see that, just looking at old pictures and you've seen him in certain poses and postures where you see that great balance he had. And wonderful, wonderful dribbling skills. Dribbling was much more common then, and nobody, he wasn't called the Wizard of the Dribble for nothing. And he got a wonderful, wonderful striking of the ball. His corners are much talked about. I don't believe the stories about the lace being in the right position for Freddie Steele to head the ball, but it's a good story.
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Interviewer5:59
How would he have got on in today's game? Lighter boots, lighter footballs, better pitches?
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Peter Coates6:04
Well, I have a view, you can only be the best in your own time, as I've said. And Stanley was that, and I think he would have adjusted. It probably would have suited him absolutely perfectly because he got all the skills, got wonderful touch, got everything you need to be a modern-day footballer. So yes, he would have been very much at home. These wonderful pitches, a lighter ball. He wasn't the greatest header of all, so he might have headed the modern ball.
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Interviewer6:28
A great footballer as we've said, but also you got to know him in his later years, being on the board. What about as a person? How would you sell me?
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Peter Coates6:35
Well, he was very modest. He was a very modest man, given his position in football. As certainly no one's had a more prominent position in football than Stanley did in his day. We've got to remember things were different, but he was what I call the first truly international player. What I'm saying is that he was the first footballer to be recognized all over the world. I don't know who predates him, I don't think anybody does, and that's quite something. And the attendances would go up simply because Stanley Matthews was playing. No telly, remember, they didn't see him on the television, so they got to go and see him in the flesh. In London, crowds would go up, Europe, South America, got to go and see this special player. So it gives you some idea of just how significant he was in the game.
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Interviewer7:36
A global star.
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Peter Coates7:38
A global, I think he was the first truly international player. What I mean is what you've just said, the first global name in football.
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Interviewer7:47
And finally, Peter, what do you think his legacy is to the football club, to football, and to the city of Stoke-on-Trent?
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Peter Coates7:55
Well, he is without question our most famous footballing son, and it'll take some changing. It would be nice to think somebody could come and perhaps measure against such an icon. There's no doubt he stands there as our most famous ever footballer, and it's a great legacy. And even now, I've been away and been in football tournaments with, say, England, and where you're from, Stoke, Stoke City. Even in modern times people will say, ah, Stanley Matthews. That tells you something, doesn't it?
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Interviewer8:42
Absolutely. And a privilege, I'm guessing, to have known him.
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Peter Coates8:48
Oh, it was, and I got on very well with him. I liked his company. He's got a charming wife, and I used to enjoy sometimes having dinner with them. He was a very careful eater and a very modest eater. He was a bit like, I always used to say he was a bit like Peter Pan, he never wanted to grow old. Don't overdo it. But Stanley in particular kept that youthful movement. I used to think even in his old age you almost think he might have gone out and played.