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Jean-pascal Bobst
Chief Executive Officer, Bobst Group SA

Shaping the Future of Packaging - CEO Jean Pascal Bobst

🎥 Apr 01, 2021 📺 FuturePrint TV ⏱ 29m 👁 487 views
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About Jean-pascal Bobst

Jean-Pascal Bobst, CEO of Bobst SA, discussed the company’s digital transformation and regional growth in a 2022 interview. He stated that digitization for Bobst involves using data from client PDFs to improve machine performance across label, folding carton, film, and corrugated sectors, calling it a “major revolution” for the industry. He noted that the Middle East and Africa region has shown intense growth, leading Bobst to invest in stronger technical support and field service teams there. Bobst described the company’s 132-year history as a foundation of values and innovation, adding that clients choose Bobst for its technical and human values. In a 2021 interview, Bobst emphasized the gradual adoption of digital printing in packaging, predicting that over the next five to ten years, more materials would be digitally printed or laser-cut. He described Bobst’s differentiators as its people, technology innovation, and values, and stated his personal motto as “people knowledge and passion.” He also outlined a goal for Bobst to become a “fully digitized company by 2025” through its Bobst Connect strategy, developed in partnership with clients.

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Transcript (31 segments)
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Host0:13
Good morning and thank you very much for joining us on this first day of the Future Print Leaders Summit. I'm absolutely honored for my first session of the day to be interviewing Jean-Pascal Bobst. Good morning to you, thank you very much for joining us. I know you haven't been very well, so I'm very grateful that you've joined us. You are fourth generation of the Bobst family, which is quite exciting because you are the history of a major manufacturer. Tell us a little bit about you and the story. Introduce yourself to us.
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Jean-pascal Bobst1:00
Thank you very much for your time and invitation. It's a pleasure and an honor to be with you. History, but I hope to be the future as well. Being the fourth generation, you carry on the legacy. You have this legacy as a major asset to continue to build relationships on the market. On the other side, the legacy has some weight because we will speak about digitization, about the future, and to move towards this revolution requires a lot of vision, strategy, leadership, change, and this is all about Bobst. Fourth generation means also we prepare a lot for the next generation. We love people, we have very strong human values, and we look at mid- to long-term results, which I believe is an asset for our employees but as well for our clients and the industry overall.
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Host2:01
Jean-Pascal, tell us how big an organization have you got? What is the size? How many people do you employ across the world?
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Jean-pascal Bobst2:10
Bobst is a 1.6 billion turnover in Swiss francs. It's 5,500 employees worldwide, more than 13 production centers where we produce machines from Europe to Asia and Brazil, and more than 30 machines installed worldwide.
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Host2:35
That is huge, isn't it? A really very significant manufacturer in the marketplace. As I said at the beginning, it's an honor to have you with us. You're going to share with us a little bit of your vision of the graphics and packaging market and where Bobst is taking us. Do you want to share that slide with us?
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Jean-pascal Bobst3:02
Thank you. This is really a kind of all-encompassing slide giving us the way in which the organization is seeing the future of the packaging world. This is the slide we launched last year, as we should have gone all to Drupa but we couldn't, so we announced it via webinars and various one-on-one meetings with our clients. It's really about shaping the future of the packaging world. Bobst has this heart, this passion to enhance and help the packaging supply chain to be transformed—not in an arrogant way that we know everything, but our strength is that we serve four industries: the label industry, film industry, folding carton, and corrugated board industry, and this is a unique position. When you want to serve the brand owner up to the consumer supply chain, what we need to bring is no longer machines only, but full solutions. Bobst is developing solutions to start from the pre-press world up to the end of the production lines. These cornerstones and objectives are really the same between brand owners and consumers. They all want quality, efficiency, control, sustainability, and proximity. As a consumer, we want almost the same as the brand owner—when we buy a product in packaging, we want proximity, right quality, efficiency, and so on. Now, how Bobst can help and support our clients to provide these elements in each box, each pouch, each label, you can see that on the bottom: our strategy is based on four pillars—connectivity, digitization, automation, and sustainability. Each of these streams will be the main strategy of Bobst over the next years to support the implementation of this vision. The overall architecture which will be an enabler of this vision is Bobst Connect. Bobst Connect is an IoT platform, part of clouds—it's not a proprietary cloud, it will be part of a number of systems on the market. It's a competition, but that will be the enabler to connect pre-press to the finished good, to make each box unique, to move from the PDF to the Twin PDF, with everything encompassed—machine, service, data, connectivity. In a nutshell, this is our vision and our main driver for the strategy for the years to come.
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Host6:27
Thank you very much for that. Some of us may have seen some of these slides before, but it's good to hear you explain that. I guess what you're saying here is that you're trying as a business to offer support to the different parts of that customer's supply chain in any way that you can, to give them the support they need to deliver business in the future. Is that right?
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Jean-pascal Bobst6:56
Yes, absolutely. As we have a very large and comprehensive product portfolio—we speak about more than 130 different types of machines within these four industries—we want to come with comprehensive solutions. For example, for labels, to start from the creation, from the PDF, until the end of the creation of the label with 100% quality control between PDF, so the converters or brand owners in the end can really track and trace every individual label if need be. Of course, because clients don't have only Bobst machines, also competitor machines, and that's why it should be an open platform. For the client, we want to help them optimize their production flow on their site with all their different pain points and challenges, with full digitized presses or machines, hybrid presses, or analog presses for the last 10, 15, 20 years.
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Host8:12
This is a philosophy that's adapted to the current business environment, hasn't it? Some of those key factors you've mentioned—connectivity, digitalization, automation, sustainability—they're trends coming through in business across markets. Whether it be Procter & Gamble or Nike, they're thinking about some of these elements in the way they produce and make their business work, in terms of their sustainability footprint and so forth. So it's a complete circle, isn't it?
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Jean-pascal Bobst8:54
It's a circle. It's a way to also take our responsibilities on the market as one of the key players, key leader in the packaging and label industry, to be a strong supporter of sustainability and the global environment. Because one of the biggest drivers—we hear a lot about flexible material being bad, because we want less plastic bags and so on. In the end of the day, plastic is vital for food. Food will not be able to survive without plastic. Our contribution is to be part of this new research to recyclable plastic, and or to have a metalized paper to be able to have recyclable substrate for food which will replace some of the plastic impacts. So we do have responsibility towards society, our clients, and the brand owners, and this is what we try to optimize and develop in the years to come.
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Host10:05
I want to talk a little bit about your view of the digital market. Obviously, as you said yourself, you have machines across a range of products from analog, and you're looking very much at digital. I'm particularly interested in that aspect. Tell us a bit about that vision for the digital market.
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Jean-pascal Bobst10:29
We believe over the next five to ten years, everything which and more and more which can be digitally printed, laser-cut, or converted will go that route. If today we already see a very strong trend in the label industry, which is the first and foremost digital printed industry, we can see that certainly film, folding carton, and corrugated will follow as well. We have three major success factors to see the industry shifting towards more digital printing. One is the uptime of the equipment. As of today, to come with real high productivity machines in digital printing is still a challenge. We said very clearly already in mid-2015 when we launched our first stack-to-stack Geneva corrugated machines that we were launching, but then we stopped the product because the uptime and the reliability was not good enough to have a sustainable TCO. The second parameter will be to have a comprehensive workflow and software solution. And of course, for Bobst, it's a revolution. For some competitors, it's where they come from—and I will not name them, but they know it is their DNA. For Bobst, we come from the hardware, from the die-cutting, from the printing side, and we need to have a comprehensive solution from pre-press workflow, recipe management, and alike. This is a major transformation for us. And third is to be able to guarantee the time to market for our clients and come with new business models. These new business models, every industry—folding carton, corrugated, labels, or film—will have their own route, as well from region to region, because what works well in North America is different in China or Europe.
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Host12:52
That's interesting. I'm interested in the fact that you are, as you mentioned, a global business with operations in Asia, US, South America, so you perhaps have the ability to see things in a slightly different way, to acknowledge that there are certain market trends that maybe don't necessarily follow across the whole globe. Packaging in the US and Europe may be slightly different from Asia. Do you see that as important?
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Jean-pascal Bobst13:31
Yes, we see very clear trends pulling more into sustainability and short runs in some areas. If you look at short runs, Europe is not the same as America. The consistency and the willingness of society to implement new packaging and have more sustainable packaging, which in the end of the day is way more expensive, is of course different from one region to another, so it's difficult to be very precise today in the very short term. But overall, we see folding carton and corrugated certainly taking over and gaining momentum versus flexible material for the sustainability and recyclability aspects. And the label business continues to grow and have strong support globally.
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Host14:34
As you said and made the point earlier, there are other companies already doing some of this. You have a slightly different history and offering. There are companies like HP and Durst in the corrugated market, and you're now moving into some of that space. I wonder how you see this concept of getting packaging converters to really understand digital and get digital. That's not been as easy as some of the major manufacturers thought it would be. It's not been quite the same as the shift from screen printing to digital, which occurred in the 2005-2010 period for retail. The packaging market converters are quite traditional, they have supply chains that are quite traditional. How do you see that pivot taking place?
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Jean-pascal Bobst15:38
Step by step, but on the other side also not as fast as we might want. Again, because their current systems and current product portfolio, which Bobst delivered for decades, is very, very efficient. And today you need to look for new business models, new segments. For example, web-to-print ten years ago was none. Today it's 100 million, 300 million, 500 millions in Europe—it's huge. So you see opportunities, and those newcomers will drive change faster than others. On the other side, never forget what we call traditional will of course become more and more competitive. The aim of the game is to keep current technology and move that towards much more digitized, automated, and connected machines, so we can still compete against the newcomers coming in the scene with novelties. Both worlds will join, and eventually current technology will survive and have good living for the next years to come, but more and more fully digitized solutions will take over, as I mentioned, the availability and TCO will improve, and the business model will change, and therefore this new technology will be required.
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Host17:16
That's a real clear vision for the pathway for digital in packaging. In terms of the shift from not all analog but some of those analog approaches to using digital because of automation, immediacy, the ability to do short runs—all the things you've mentioned—that makes complete sense. Personally, on a personal note, as CEO of Bobst, what's your sense and what's your commitment to this digital sector? What have you said to the teams? If people are listening from around the world from the Bobst team, what are they going to hear from Mr. Bobst?
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Jean-pascal Bobst18:08
Bobst is really committed to a full digitalization and transformation of our company and this vision. We want at least 50% of products to have achieved this vision by 2025, which represents more than 2% return of sales of investment every year for the years to come. And this is a massive commitment. Thanks to being a family-owned business, we have the strength, the passion, and the long-term vision to implement this vision. Because of course the return is expensive and we need to demonstrate the return in the end of the day. Absolutely. But we do believe that this comprehensive solution will bring the added value to our clients and in the end of the day to the brand owners, and that will make Bobst quite unique to support this transformation in the four industries.
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Host19:14
I guess it's also about the relationships with your customers, the partnerships that you have. I was reading something about the organization—it's one of the kind of key strengths. You believe in your partnerships, you believe very much that Bobst and the customer are in a partnership.
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Jean-pascal Bobst19:36
Yes, it's an investment from both sides, of course. It's a real commitment. But truly, we want to shape, we want to change—we don't want just to make it slightly better. And for that you need the full trust, full confidence with clients to fail, to start again, to succeed together, but also to accept failure. And this is what makes our life so interesting and passionate.
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Host20:12
Interesting you say that—accept failure—because there are businesses that struggle with that. That sense that as an organization, the people in the organization understand that things can go wrong and that's not a problem, but we must at least try new things. Is that a philosophy you have as a leader?
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Jean-pascal Bobst20:36
As a person, yes, absolutely. As an organization, maybe not strong enough yet, because people are scared to be judged and fail. In Europe, it's also a question of culture. In America, it will be no problem—great, let's go for it. In Europe, with our DNA and history, it's oh, it's so bad. So it's not only a company culture, it's also our roots, our soul, our history. However, this is what we like to embrace—to take more risk and try out. Again, the Geneva project we stopped for the corrugated—we are coming back now with a new solution. It was very difficult, people were shocked, clients as well, but I prefer to say we stop, we start again, we learn, and hopefully with the right solution.
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Host21:36
That's very interesting what you said about the culture, the difference in culture. There's a guy I observe on the internet, Simon Sinek, and he talks a lot about successful innovative businesses really understanding why they do what they do—not what they do, but why they do it. The vision, the passion behind that. If everyone understands the why you do it, and if that comes very much down from the leadership, that's good. Is there a why in Bobst? Is there a statement that you'd say—Bobst, why we do what we do, because we believe in... what is that something you would say as CEO of Bobst?
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Jean-pascal Bobst22:30
We really believe by being a leading supplier—when we say leading, not in an arrogant way, but it's about putting first the relationship with people, so putting the human in the center of everything we do to perform. This is our strongest asset. And then of course to be number one, number two, because we want to be able to demonstrate and lead the path forward. And therefore financially to have the best profitability. When you look at the performance of the group financially over the years, if you take out the huge investment we have made in digital, our performance is very, very strong. And that helps us to continue and go through the cycles of crisis, because the last ten years we had already four or five crises. Lehman Brothers, crises of exchange rates, 2011-2015 for stress-based operations, and COVID last year. And when you look at our numbers of last year, they are very pretty robust. Can we be very happy? No, you can always do better. But we made more than 3% return of sales and a good, small but good profit, net results, while investing more than 40 million Swiss francs per year. So I think this is strong, and this is my vision and this is my motto for the people: people, knowledge, and passion.
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Host24:18
That's really good. It's interesting because the point you made is—okay, it's great, we're making some profit, but we've reinvested, we've got five and a half thousand people around the world working for us who believe in the vision that Bobst has. That's a good sentiment, isn't it? It's a good way of approaching business. And also that point you made—we've had a number of crises in the last few years, and yet everything is growing. If you can operate in such difficult times, if you can do well in such difficult times, that's good in the boom times. But let's—what do you sense? Do you sense that as we come out of the COVID crisis there will be a boom?
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Jean-pascal Bobst25:10
We have learned some lessons. I guess really two scenarios for me. If we see a lot of bankruptcy of companies due to COVID, because of airlines not being able to fly, and restaurants and hotels, and a lot of industries which will suffer so much that the impact will be negative, then we might go into a very deep recession. If we don't have these in these industries—which I have no clue what will really be the end result impact in the next six to 18 months on the economy, on unemployment and so on—then we can have a rebound pretty fast and very strong, because consumption is there, because cash is available, because technology is ready to support growth, because China is looking for minimum 6 or 8% increase this year in GDP and so on. So we do see very positive signals on the market.
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Host26:33
Very complex. That's really interesting, because you could be sitting in your board with your board of directors and being gloomy, saying oh, the hotel market, the aircraft market, it's just terrible. But then on the other side, you could be saying, well, we're in packaging, packaging is doing really well at the moment, there's e-commerce, there's delivery, and as you said, web-to-pack and web-to-print is doing well. This is a strong part of the market. And lots of people who've been holding their money for a little bit during this COVID crisis, they want to go and spend, so hopefully there'll be a surge and a kind of boom time for a little period. So it's interesting what you say—it's making those decisions with your board and with the team to work out where to go next. I'm glad you put both sides there, because no one really knows, of course.
As we come to the end, Jean-Pascal, and as I said, I'm very grateful you joined us because it's given us a little bit of insight into your thinking, not just the sort of technical side of Bobst, but actually your vision. So thank you for that. Is there anything you would like to say in the final few words about your investment thinking? If imagine we've been at Drupa or Interpack and you've been standing on the stage talking to the press about the next two years, for example, what would you be saying to them now? What would you be saying about Bobst going forward?
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Jean-pascal Bobst28:09
I would say to my clients: let's be ready to discover a new Bobst. To discover that every semester, every year, Bobst will launch great novelties, and Bobst will be a really fully digitized company by 2025. And this vision of Bobst Connect should be the enabler, the cornerstone of the strategy, while implementing new business models. And we need you as partners, your clients, to help us develop together the right business models per industry—what is right for folding carton, for label, for film, or for corrugated. We know it's different, but we know we are all human, we know very well the full supply chain in each of these industries, and we are passionate to bring the right solution to you.
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Host29:17
Fantastic. That's really good. Thank you very much for that, Jean-Pascal. I really appreciate you giving us some time. Thank you for joining us on the Leaders Summit, and I hope to catch up with you soon, maybe face to face at some point.
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Jean-pascal Bobst29:28
Me too, I hope a lot, and it was an honor to be with you today. Thank you very much.