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Rocco Forte
Executive Chairman (Founder / CEO), Rocco Forte Hotels Limited

3 things to know when opening a luxury hospitality business | Sir Rocco Forte

📅 Nov 17, 2025 Reed 73 MIN 58312 VIEWS 54 SEGMENTS · 2 SPEAKERS
Being successful in hospitality is incredibly tough. But how do you keep a focus on quality and authenticity whilst expanding into multiple new locations? In this episode of All About Business, James is joined by Sir Rocco Forte, titan of the luxury hospitality and hotel industry. They explore his incredible journey as an entrepreneur within a family whose history in hospitality spans over a century. They also delve into how he has prioritised community impact in his work as well as maintaining a family-oriented approach to make something special that lasts. Timecodes: 02:23 Building Icon...

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  1. 0:15Is there anything in particular you'd like to see in the budget that you think would be helpful or desirable for business or for the economy?
  2. 1:47What do you seek to bring to the business that is uniquely yours?
  3. 5:53When you induct people, do you share specific family values or expectations?
  4. 9:24Can you tell us about that background?
  5. 15:50When you put two companies together with different cultures, which one prevails?
  6. 16:41That must have been a battle or shock. What happened?
  7. 28:03So you give a speech at these events?
  8. 29:05What do you think you do differently?
  9. 33:20I notice you're opening more hotels in Italy than in the UK now. Is there a particular reason?
  10. 36:22How many hotels do you have in Italy now?
  11. 39:01Are you happy to tell me a bit about them and what they're doing? What are their jobs?
  12. 39:14So when you say development, do you mean new hotels?
Rocco Forte 0:00 ↗
Our hotels tend to be individual, so they each have their own personality. People always talk about how beautiful, how much money has been spent on the rooms and so on, but the underlying thing in hotels is the service you give the customer.
James Reed 0:15 ↗
Rocco, we've got a budget coming up in the UK at the end of November. Is there anything in particular you'd like to see in the budget that you think would be helpful or desirable for business or for the economy?
Rocco Forte 0:26 ↗
Yes. They reverse everything they've done so far. We're in a very similar period now where everybody thinks the UK is finished and this was the case in the '70s. Mrs. Thatcher came along and created an entrepreneurial spirit in the country. I wanted to go back into business and decided to start a luxury hotel group. I spent a year trying to find a hotel and eventually the Balmoral Hotel came along. Two months later, the chief executive of Bank of Scotland rang me up and said, 'Mr. Forte, you'll be wanting to expand.' I said yes. He said, 'Well, how does 50 million sound for the next hotel?' I made a mistake.
James Reed 1:12 ↗
What happened? What happened?
Welcome to All About Business with me, James Reed, the podcast that covers everything about business, management, and leadership. Every episode, I sit down with different guests that bootstrap companies, masterminded investment models, or built a business empire. They're leaders in their field and here to give you top insights and actionable advice for your career or business.
Well, today on All About Business, I'm in Rome, and I couldn't be more delighted to be talking to Sir Rocco Forte, chairman and chief executive of Rocco Forte Hotels. We're in his amazing hotel, De Russie, which I think must be the best hotel in Rome. I've stayed here and enjoyed it hugely. Rocco, welcome to the podcast. You've built iconic hotels around the world, like this one and the Verdura in Sicily. What is it that makes a hotel a Rocco Forte hotel? What do you seek to bring to the business that is uniquely yours?
Rocco Forte 2:46 ↗
Well, there's a culture to the company that pervades all the hotels. Our hotels are individual, each with their own personality and a strong sense of place. That was one of the first things we focused on when setting up, and my sister Olga has a big impact on that. She looks at each hotel and decides how to make it feel local, working with designers to create a similar yet unique feeling. There's a sense of detail in the decor that you don't get from big chains, which tend to repeat the same things. But most important is the service we give. People talk about beauty and money spent, but the underlying thing in hotels is the service to the customer. In luxury hotels, the customer must feel like an individual, with personalized service. There must be genuine warmth towards the guest, which we try to instill. Every staff member is inducted to learn about the family, company history, the hotel, and its destination. They feel part of the process and believe in the project. The lowest-paid staff, in direct contact with customers, must believe in what they do and enjoy coming to work to make the stay correct and right for the customer.
James Reed 5:53 ↗
That's so interesting. I want to unpack what you've said. You mentioned your sister Olga, who is the deputy chairman. This is a family enterprise. Our experience staying here was exactly around the service; the people were warm, helpful, and friendly. One staff member opened windows and called the lift for us, which was unusual. I'm interested in the family and culture aspect. When you induct people, do you share specific family values or expectations?
Rocco Forte 6:54 ↗
Values, because I think we're naturally hospitable people. If someone comes into your home, you want to look after them and make their stay pleasant, making a big effort. That should be what we do with every customer. The family aspect is important. My children are involved; they worked in hotels during holidays and developed a passion for the business. I didn't force them; they wanted to join. As a family, we're in the hotels regularly, so people know us, see us, and see our care for service. That pervades the organization. Also, they know who they're working for—not a big organization where people change—but for us, who are there long-term. Visibility is important for someone like me; I appear in the press and on television, which gives staff a sense of pride.
James Reed 9:24 ↗
You're an endurance athlete, and that was a hook to talk about hotels. Now you talk about politics, another hook. If staff read about you, they feel proud. You're quite a small organization but make a big noise. Can I ask about your origins? You grew up in a hotel family, and your grandfather was also called Rocco. Your family started in Scotland with ice cream shops. You've been doing this for generations. Can you tell us about that background?
Rocco Forte 10:02 ↗
I think there's entrepreneurial resilience in my genes. My grandfather was born in a small village near Cassino between Rome and Naples. At 14, he went to the US alone, returned at 21 with enough money to build a house, but couldn't make ends meet, so he went to Scotland in 1911. On my mother's side, she was born in England to Italian parents; her father walked from northern Italy to England working along the way. Her mother ran a delicatessen in Soho until she was 84, then moved to Venice to buy and let apartments. She started a new business at 84. Her mother dragged her back to England at 90, and she lived with my parents until she died at 104. There was no way I wasn't going to be an entrepreneur with resilience in the genes.
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Rocco Forte 12:28 ↗
My father was extremely entrepreneurial in many ways. He opened the first motorway service area, went into inflight catering at airports, and was one of the first in the '50s and early '60s to recognize the value of companies with undervalued assets. He bought companies like the Waldorf Hotel, did the first sale-and-leaseback, and built up the Forte Group. It merged with Trust Houses to become Trusthouses Forte, but there was a big row, and he ended up as chairman and chief executive.
James Reed 14:52 ↗
What was the big row?
Rocco Forte 14:54 ↗
Crowder, the chairman of Trust Houses, had agreed to retire after a year, but started reneging. My father got busy, engineered a takeover bid by Allied Breweries which failed, so they resigned, and he took over. Trust Houses was bureaucratic, but my father's approach was entrepreneurial.
James Reed 15:50 ↗
You mentioned culture. When you put two companies together with different cultures, which one prevails? And yours did.
Rocco Forte 15:58 ↗
Yes. We had 100,000 employees in Trusthouses Forte, a big group, but as a family, we gradually diluted our shareholding. With the merger and rights issues, my shareholding dropped below 20%. When Granada made a takeover bid, we had about 5%.
James Reed 16:41 ↗
You were at the wheel when that happened. That must have been a battle or shock. What happened? You were CEO at this point.
Rocco Forte 16:45 ↗
Chairman, CEO. The bid came out of the blue, so we started defending. A takeover bid is about creating value for shareholders. We forced the bidder to raise the bid, which we did unconventionally, and it forced the price up. Granada's share price tumbled as people knew they were paying more. The institutional shareholders decided to sell, but individual shareholders, including our 5%, hadn't agreed. In the end, it was a big blow. I had big ambitions for the group but couldn't rationalize it. I remember coming back to High Hoben, where there were television cameras and microphones, asking what I would do. I said, 'I will return,' like MacArthur.
James Reed 19:46 ↗
And you did almost immediately. You started Rocco Forte Hotels, as it was to begin with.
Rocco Forte 19:50 ↗
Yes, because I couldn't use the Forte name. They had the name. Compass ended up with it from the catering company, but they weren't using it, and in honor of my father, they gave it back to us. A guy called May was chairman then.
James Reed 20:38 ↗
So you then got going again with your sister.
Rocco Forte 20:49 ↗
Yes. During the takeover bid, Granada had said the city didn't think they could run five-star and four-star hotels, so they should sell them. I tried to buy them back, raised a billion in the city, but it took too long. Granada changed its mind, so I couldn't do that. I was 51, had worked all my life, and had some money from shares, but not enough to keep my wife happy, so I had to go back into business. I decided to start a luxury hotel group, spent a year trying to find a hotel, and eventually the Balmoral Hotel in Edinburgh came along. Trusthouses Forte had been running it under management contract, but it had gone bankrupt. I bought it after long negotiation, taking it back from Granada, which was satisfying. Two months later, the chief executive of Bank of Scotland rang and said, 'Mr. Forte, you'll be wanting to expand.' I said yes. He said, 'How does 50 million sound? Twenty years money, no amortization, 1% over base.' I pretended not to be excited and said, 'Let me think about it.' I rang back and accepted, which doubled my capital because I had 25 million, my sister put in five, and my father put in 20.
James Reed 24:06 ↗
Which was your next hotel?
Rocco Forte 24:08 ↗
I made a mistake. I thought with devolution, Cardiff would become an opportunity, so I built a hotel in Cardiff and one in Manchester at the same time. Wales was the only country in Europe without a five-star hotel, and I tried to break that tradition. It didn't work because I couldn't get the rate to justify the service, so I sold it. Rodri Morgan, the first minister of Wales, wrote me a handwritten letter thanking me for what I'd done for Cardiff, which I was taken aback by. Then we opened in 2000, this hotel in Rome, and in Florence. This hotel had been vacant for eight years, and through a cousin, I was introduced to it. I fell in love with the courtyard and garden and took a year and a half to persuade the owners to let me convert it into a hotel. It cost 15 million euros, which I borrowed from the bank and repaid in three years because the hotel did so well. It put me on the map internationally, especially with the American market, which is the most important for luxury hotels. In Italy, it's 55% of our business; as a company, it's 45%. The luxury travel agent community in the States is very important, and I've always had good relationships with top agents. They trust me and always support new hotels without waiting to see how they do.
James Reed 28:03 ↗
So you give a speech at these events?
Rocco Forte 28:07 ↗
Yes, I tell them about our philosophy, how we look after staff, the importance of service, and how we're improving it. I'm sort of like a film star with them, which I can't believe because after all, we're only 15 hotels.

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@misc{forte2025_1026430,
  author       = {Rocco Forte},
  title        = {3 things to know when opening a luxury hospitality business | Sir Rocco Forte},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, Reed. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2025},
  month        = {nov},
  url          = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1026430/},
  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
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