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Alessandro Chiesi
Vice Chair of the Board (former Chair), Chiesi Farmaceutici S.p.A. (Chiesi Group)

"Chiesi Farmaceutici: un'azienda che ama il suo territorio" - Con Alessandro Chiesi

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Transcript (25 segments)
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Host0:00
When I was 20 I became a father and got married. The audience is ready, they're tired at the end of the day. Sorry, 2000 people means 2000 families. We can start, I'd say yes, come on, the audience is ready. So much enthusiasm, a round of applause, they're tired at the end of the day. There's also this session, someone came from Bologna with a bit of effort, but thank you all for being here. Without further hesitation, I'll begin by introducing today's special guest, even though probably most of you already know him. For those who don't, I'll give a few tips, and then Francesco, the other guest today as co-host, will tell us a bit about this location in a nutshell, and then he'll introduce himself to give us a better introduction. But who is today's guest? He is Mr. Chiesi, president of Chiesi Farmaceutici, one of the most important companies in Italy, especially recently known for entering the top 25 best companies in the world for corporate welfare. I also personally looked into it, and several acquaintances who work at Chiesi told me it's really great there. So let's give a round of applause and ask Dr. Alessandro to introduce himself.
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Alessandro Chiesi1:45
Well, ok. You talked about welfare, correct. It's one of the levers we use. We measure the quality of life of the people in the company by asking them directly. We're very proud of that. We'll talk more about it later.
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Francesco2:05
I'll jump in to briefly introduce where we are. We're in the Auditorium Paganini, a space built inside what are usually the Pojag spaces used for other activities. It wasn't designed for this purpose, but for the event 'Mi prendo il mondo' organized in collaboration with Parma Giovani and the city of Parma, they created this literary café. So today we have me and Andrea, who are not very literary, and Dr. Alessandro Chiesi, who undoubtedly raises the level, so we can reach the literary discussion. But we're also here to do one of the episodes of 'Caffè con Imprenditore', a format that comes from Bologna to Parma, a dream for us as a Junior Enterprise from Emilia. The goal today is to give motivation to all the young entrepreneurs here, and we're here to receive as much as possible to launch into these adventures.
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Alessandro Chiesi3:25
I thank you for starting. It's a beautiful opportunity, and it's a bit awe-inspiring to meet different generations. You are very far from me in some ways, but we share the same space, the same era, the same dreams, maybe the same fears, the same challenges for the future. So it's important to have this occasion. Thank you, it gives me great pleasure.
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Host4:03
Pleasure is ours. I'll immediately move to our questions. The first one always helps break the distance with the audience: tell us a bit about who Alessandro Chiesi was at our age, and especially how did you enter the company and what kind of training did you go through to get where you are today?
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Alessandro Chiesi4:31
I'll try. At your age, around 20, I was studying. I didn't study science, I studied economics. Actually, at 20, what I remember most is something that marked my life: I became a father and got married. That was beautiful, it gives life a very important meaning. But it was also a moment of difficulty. I entered the company some years later, when it was very different from today, much smaller, essentially Italian, run hands-on by Alberto and Paolo Chiesi, my father and uncle. There were already a couple hundred people, but that was 30 years ago, now we're almost 8,000 worldwide. For me it was an opportunity and a fortune; I had no other work experience before. It was a dream to enter this company. I started without clear ideas, learning from the Italian subsidiary, which was the heart of the business. One thing I missed a lot was having a boss. I never had a real boss for the first 10 years because my boss was my father, and that made it hard to get honest feedback. Later, I got a boss when I helped create the M&A function and then ran the German subsidiary. That was when I really started learning. I also had to manage being a shareholder and sitting on the board. It's a path that I think helped me grow and contributed to the company and the people I worked with.
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Host11:28
I'd like to go deeper into the topic of the surname in relation to responsibility. How was it having the surname Chiesi in the Chiesi company, having a boss? Did the manager ever have difficulty giving negative feedback because of the surname, or was it an accelerator or a brake on growth?
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Alessandro Chiesi11:59
For me, it's generally an accelerator. It gives you opportunities. The point is whether you know how to take them correctly. It requires great attention. People know who you are, and when you say something, it carries weight. You can be very good at managing different hats, but the real issue is how you are perceived regardless. With my bosses, I always had a good relationship. We decided about a dozen years ago to have an external CEO, a manager, not a family member, to offer growth opportunities to talented people and for family-business balance. So I always had a boss. I think there was always an open, frank relationship, but I'm sure there was an area of unsaid things that is almost inevitable.
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Francesco14:19
Wait, Andrea. Now you've brought up a theme that I think many in the audience are wondering: what does a president do in a company? What is the actual role, daily tasks? If you want, you can also tell us what time you wake up, but more on the business side, what do you actually do?
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Host14:21
Actually, now he's brought up a theme that I, and maybe some of the audience, asked: what does a president do in a company? What is the actual role, daily tasks? Obviously, if he wants to tell us what time he gets up, that's fine, but more on the business side, what does he actually do?
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Alessandro Chiesi14:52
Compared to the operational role I had before, my agenda has lightened in general, which I miss because after 30 years you get used to a full day. I am the leader, I see myself as support to the board of directors. My job is to ensure that the board functions well, that the relationship between the board and management, starting with the CEO, develops harmoniously. My first goal is to enable the CEO and his team to do their best work, and also to keep the board properly informed. Our board is particular because currently it's made up only of shareholder members plus the CEO. This could evolve, but for now, these are people who until recently were all operational in the company, so they knew everything. You step back and realize how perception can change. You have to make it all work. Then there is the institutional part: building the company's network, working with stakeholders in Italy and around the world. For us, stakeholders are very important and varied. The whole organization interacts with them, but I also have a role. Occasionally I'm involved in initiatives like this interview.
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Francesco18:01
Fortunately. Now I'd like to connect to a topic: you talked a lot about the board, and when we were thinking about questions, the Joy project came up. Do you want to give an overview or explain it all?
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Alessandro Chiesi18:18
I can tell you what I experienced. It was born a few years ago by the will of the previous CEO. About a year and a half ago we changed CEO; the previous one brought this idea, and it was truly visionary and right. Joy stands for 'Join the future of strategy' – it's a pseudo-acronym. It's a platform built to connect different generations within the company: on one side representatives of Gen Z and Millennials under 28 who have been in the company for at least a year, and on the other side the top management. The idea is that this enriches the way the company looks at the world and important things. It's like a shadow board that works continuously with top management on real projects. I've had the chance to interact with some of these teams. Now Joy 2.0 is starting, which will see further evolution. It's very beautiful because it gives the company a chance to enrich itself, gives young people exposure and learning through a form of cross-mentoring on concrete topics. One thing that struck me: we asked a group of these young people what was most important for them, and the unanimous answer was happiness. That shows how a change of values is almost happening, and we need to open our perspective.
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Host22:00
If young people seek happiness, what do you seek from young people, both through this project and in general? What inputs do you hope a young person gives you?
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Alessandro Chiesi22:19
This is a broad topic. In our company, which works in a highly advanced sector requiring high technical skills, it's clear that strong academic or technical training is necessary. Unfortunately, the education system often struggles to provide it aligned with needs. At the same time, the ability and desire to keep learning and evolving are crucial because skills become obsolete in 5 years or less. Being innovative and creative means continuously questioning oneself. Courage to speak up is also important, but that requires an environment that allows it. For young people, having the opportunity to be heard is key. Joy is a beautiful example of how everyone has something rich to bring. New technologies are an opportunity; I use AI a lot, and you will be able to use it more, but I hope you can govern it as a tool. Values and culture are fundamental for us. Proactivity combined with humility, and accountability – our CEO says we are 8,000 CEOs. You need to be accountable, take initiative, but also work in teams. Not necessarily deciding what job you want, but what you want to do in life; today you can do many things. I hope you will do more than one. Curiosity from a young age is important. First, get to know as many opportunities as possible and experiment, because otherwise everything remains theoretical. And then you also need a bit of luck; I consider myself extremely lucky. I hope you are lucky, and let's remember that there are less fortunate people, so help create opportunities for as many as possible.
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Francesco29:38
That answer alone is worth the price of admission. But another aspect I'd like to develop is that among the events done in Parma, all the initiatives of the Junior of Parma, your name always comes up. I asked Francesco how Chiesi is so tied to this territory and so fond of it. So I'll pass the ball to Francesco to tell us with you where this love for the territory comes from.
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Host30:07
I'd really like to ask where, or rather when, this desire to support the territory was born. From your previous answer, one can already understand, but when and how did the idea of supporting young people with projects come about?
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Alessandro Chiesi30:29
We are a family company, and we have always had our heart here. Today we feel European, but the dimension of the community in which you operate and live has always been very important for us. In recent years, it has developed enormously because it's a fundamental part of our purpose. We became a Benefit Corporation, certified B Corp, and we have shared value at the core: creating value through business for all stakeholders – shareholders, but above all patients, people, communities, society, and the planet. The link with the community has become institutionalized. We realize it's essential to be attractive. At Parma we still have about 2,000 out of 8,000 people, with the heart of R&D, production, and corporate. We try to attract people from all over the world, and bringing them to Parma is not trivial. Parma is a wonderful place, but if you come from New York, you need to experience it. Having a territory and community where people can thrive is a huge competitive advantage. 2,000 people means 2,000 families, which translates to 5,000-10,000 people in Parma. That's a significant impact. When we understood this, we made it part of our mission. A company has incredible power, and we need to use it because everything is so difficult today, and public resources are insufficient. So we institutionalized it with a committee called Cask, where top representatives work continuously with a dedicated function to design activities. We invest about 2 million euros per year in the territory, in addition to core business. Many activities are done together with local actors, starting from the neighborhoods, like San Leonardo, one of the more problematic areas. Parma has a lot of immigration; 20% of the provincial population is non-Italian, and it's relatively recent, so integration is a big issue. We have the fortune to have significant resources, so we make it an investment in the community.
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Francesco36:33
So let's stop for a moment on the Chiesi side, on this value for the territory and desire to bring value. How did 'Parma io ci sto' come about? I am in Parma, it's an association born 10 years ago, celebrating its 10th anniversary at the end of this year. It was born from the entrepreneurial world with two other entrepreneurs plus the Industrial Association and the Cariparma Foundation. The other two entrepreneurs are Guido Barilla and Andrea Pontremoli, CEO of Dallara. We decided to create this association to work together to give more chances to this territory and community, with the aim of contributing to making it a better place to live for everyone, across all generations. For example, there are about 30,000 students in a city of 200,000, and it's hard to integrate them. We bring together resources and people who contribute their time, skills, and experience to start important projects that require collaboration between institutions and private entities. I see it as a form of voluntary work, putting your face on the line, which often makes the difference. We have done and are doing important things, but above all we have become a recognized actor by institutions. The first emblematic project was a strategic vision on the university: to make the University of Parma more competitive by focusing on excellence in food, agrifood, and nutrition. We created a high-level training school and funded its location. The school started a couple of years ago; the building is almost finished but still not inaugurated. That gives an idea of how difficult it is.
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Host41:46
When Francesco told me who was behind this project, I said 'That's it': three people I hope everyone knows. But then we asked ourselves: Parma European Youth Capital 2027 – how did this team react to the news?
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Alessandro Chiesi42:08
Beautiful! European Youth Capital is an incredible thing. Hats off to whoever thought of it, I believe it was councilman Almi, and to those who made it happen and won this recognition. It's a team of young people – really young – and you are part of it. So bravo to those who believed in it and supported this work. I watched the live broadcast of the award ceremony from Ghent, and I was really thrilled. It's one of those things that makes you say 'See, Parma and the people of Parma have this potential, but often we don't manage to bring it out.' And here it happened. Parma io ci sto supported it, and we made ourselves available, but the merit goes to those who conceived and realized it. We are still at the disposal of many actors, because one of the most beautiful things about this project is that it put on paper a series of activities that will be coordinated and integrated, involving companies, associations, and institutions. It's a choral project under a beautiful direction from you young people. My concern, which I expressed when the committee was formed, is that it should be inclusive, truly an opportunity for everyone, starting with those on the margins. That's the big challenge. We fortunate and privileged people have the opportunity to make it as broad as possible. European Capital means we can really be put on the map and stay there. The real goal is to stay there, use this opportunity to make Parma a recognized hub for intergenerational continuity.
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Francesco45:52
I can add a fun fact. Parma won the European Youth Capital especially thanks to intergenerationality. I like to tell that last year we were in Sala Pizzetti here, and we first put into practice one of the projects that drove intergenerationality: Generational Mentoring. It was already born, but that was the first moment we said ok, let's start it. It came from a Joy applied session during one of our assemblies, inviting you and the associates of Parma io ci sto (over 140 representatives from companies of all generations). You came with the idea to discuss what can be done, and that idea came out. It gestated last year, started, and had a first session that was greatly appreciated. Just the look in your eyes tells the magic and euphoria in Parma right now.
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Host47:53
So, catching the ball from Franci, I'd say one last message to the audience, something that should remain in the hearts of those watching, before you leave for your commitments.
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Alessandro Chiesi48:12
Certainly. Don't be afraid. It's a big mess, but together we can really make it, we can look at it with hope, with optimism, with the idea that we can shape it. And here in Parma, there is certainly a place to come back to, a reference point, because there are people who listen and want to get involved to work together and try to create something more beautiful for everyone. Thank you, you are wonderful.
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Francesco48:58
Well, how did the episode go, gentlemen interviewers? The episode went very well, I'd say. We had fun, we chatted in Tuscan, we nailed it. Dr. Chiesi exceeded expectations. Remember, the important thing is always to meet expectations. We have the sticker, we have a visual in post-production that we'll modify all this part. Holy polenta, so much stuff in your pocket, because the important thing is to always market and always meet expectations. And ask the audience at home: do you meet expectations? Because if you don't, there's work to do. The audio didn't work, the cameras didn't work, everything collapsed. The audio refused to work. It might be that Chiesi has such a strong aura, like paranormal events. Yes, I think all the microphone problems started when he sat down; before there were none, so it must be that aura of importance and wisdom. Not in Rome, in Parma. Literary Café, if someone who knows a bit of literature arrives, they lose letters. We have mixed everything. Anyway, we thank you and see you on the next episode of Caffè con Imprenditore.