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Zhang Jinliang
Chairman, China Construction Bank Corporation

China Construction Bank 2024 Interim Results(English Version)

🎥 Sep 02, 2024 📺 財通人生 ⏱ 86m 👁 190 views
#CCB #ChinaConstructionBank #InterimResults China Construction Bank(00939.HK,601939.SH)2024 Interim Results Date:2 September 2024 Language:English(Translation) Mandarin Original Version:    • 建設銀行2024年度中期業績發布會│CCB 2024 Interim Results  
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Moderator0:01
Good afternoon, respected investors, analysts, media friends, ladies and gentlemen. A warm welcome to China Construction Bank's 2024 interim results press conference. Thank you all for your continued trust, care, and support for CCB. This conference has two venues in Beijing and Hong Kong, with online and offline sessions, and is also broadcast to investors, shareholders, and the public in Hong Kong. In Hong Kong we have the president and CFO of CCB, and in Beijing we have the vice presidents and other senior management. I'm the Vice President. The interim results have already been published and uploaded to our website. We will now invite Mr. Zhang Jinliang to give his remarks, followed by the Q&A session. Mr. Zhang, please.
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Zhang Jinliang1:48
Welcome to CCB's 2024 interim results press conference. Thank you for your continued care, trust, and support. In October 2005, CCB was listed on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange. I was fortunate to be a member of the IPO team, and the memory of that historic moment remains vivid. Over the past 19 years, our achievements have been witnessed by all of you. I'm happy to report our first-half results and next steps. Since the beginning of the year, CCB has adhered to the guidance of the 20th National Congress and implemented the decisions of the central government and State Council. Our development quality has continued to improve with strong overall performance. At the end of June, total assets reached 40.29 trillion yuan, up 5.14% from year-end. Total liabilities were 37.04 trillion yuan, up 5.37%. Net profit was 165 billion yuan with an NPL ratio of 1.35%, down 0.02 percentage points. Net interest margin was 1.54%, return on equity 10.82%, capital adequacy ratio 19.5%, and cost-to-income ratio 24.15%. These figures lead the industry and lay a solid foundation for sustainable high-quality development. First, we focused on serving the real economy. Loans to high-tech companies reached 1.8 trillion yuan, up 12.31%. Green finance loans reached 4.6 trillion yuan, up 14.93%. In inclusive finance, we maintain our position as the largest financial institution by market supply with 3.42 million customers. In pension finance, we're building an integrated service system. For the digital economy, we increased support for core digital industries. Cross-border RMB settlement volume grew 36% year-on-year, and London RMB clearing bank cumulative volume exceeded 100 trillion yuan. Second, we focused on serving customers. In corporate finance, we have 11.354 million customers and 16 million RMB settlement accounts. In personal finance, we serve 762 million individual customers managing financial assets exceeding 19.74 trillion yuan. Total asset management reached 5.2 trillion yuan, and assets under custody exceeded 23 trillion yuan. Third, we pursued high-quality development. We accelerated growth in core areas and increased support for strategic emerging industries, manufacturing, inclusive finance, and green finance. Operating expenses decreased by 1.67% year-on-year. Fourth, we focused on lean management. We built a self-reliant digital technology innovation system, increased AI application, and expanded intensive operations to 308 items. Our MSCI ESG rating is double-A, ranking among the top major banks. Fifth, we maintained bottom-line thinking in risk management. The NPL ratio decreased steadily with a coverage ratio of 238.75%, indicating strong asset quality and risk resilience. In the second half of the year, we will focus on high-quality development, serving the real economy, supporting the development of new productive forces, and promoting five major actions. We will optimize subsidiary and overseas management, strengthen technology resource allocation, and ensure stable asset quality. This year marks the 75th anniversary of the PRC and the 70th anniversary of CCB. We will firmly maintain confidence and work diligently to create better value for our shareholders and stakeholders. Thank you.
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Moderator18:49
Thank you, Mr. Zhang. Now we enter the Q&A session. The press conference has two venues in Beijing and Hong Kong, and we take questions from both sides. Please state your name and organization before asking. First, from the Hong Kong venue, the lady on the left side.
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Analyst19:17
Thank you, management. I'm from JP Morgan. My first question is about strategy. Thank you for the very detailed introduction. CCB has enjoyed stable performance with good core indicator results. What strategy does management have in this sophisticated and ever-changing environment? As an analyst, how should we view the outlook for the whole year? Thank you.
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Moderator19:49
Thank you for your question. This question will be answered by Mr. Zhang.
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Zhang Jinliang19:54
Thank you, Ms. Li, for your care and support to CCB. In the first half of this year, we seriously implemented the decisions of the central government and State Council, building a solid foundation for the financial industry. We emphasized quantitative and qualitative development. Overall, our total assets and liabilities developed steadily with stable performance. Our core indicators — ROA, ROE, capital adequacy ratio, cost-to-income ratio, and net interest margin — all maintained stable development and leading positions in the industry. To ensure net interest margin stability, we optimized business structure and improved product and maturity structures through five structural optimizations. We adjusted the asset mix, reducing low-return assets and increasing high-quality ones by 1.5%, now comprising 88% of total assets. We provided differentiated loans with improved risk pricing competitiveness. Our RMB lending rate leads the industry. We also optimized maturity structure and controlled long-term savings ratios. The savings interest rate decreased to around 1.72%, down 5 basis points, returning to 2022 levels. Personal savings rates dropped 12 basis points, the lowest since 2009. For income structure transformation, non-interest income accounted for 21% of total income, up 1.4 percentage points. Fee income maintained a leading industry position at 62.7 billion yuan. Operating expenses decreased by 1.7% year-on-year. Corporate accounts exceeded 11 million and inclusive finance accounts reached 342 million. Our NPL ratio is 1.35%, reduced from the previous year, with all risks under control. Looking ahead, the macro economy is improving with growing opportunities. We will continue lean management, enhance risk management systems, and serve customers with a proactive mindset to push forward high-quality development. Thank you.
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Moderator26:25
Thank you, Mr. Zhang. The next question comes from Beijing.
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Reporter26:39
Thank you. The increase rate of loans was lower than last year. What are the key areas of loan investment? Thank you.
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Zhang Jinliang26:56
Thank you for the question. Since the beginning of the year, we've resolutely implemented regulatory instructions and achieved stable credit growth supporting the real economy. In the first half, loans and advances increased by 1.5 trillion yuan, up 1.66%, higher than the industry average. We continue to consolidate our leading position in loans. Personal loans, especially mortgages, consumer loans, and credit loans, achieved market-leading levels in both interest rates and balances. Inclusive finance loans also maintained a leading market position. Corporate loans increased rapidly with key areas growing above average. Green loans reached a balance of 4.4 trillion yuan. Manufacturing loans reached 3 trillion yuan, up 12.8%. Strategic new industries reached 2.72 trillion yuan. We issued 1.8 trillion yuan to tech enterprises, up 23%. We consolidated credit to traditional areas including power generation with double-digit growth. In property, we implemented the financing coordination mechanism and focused on three major areas. New real estate loans remained at the same level as last year. Looking ahead, with favorable macro trends and policy support, we expect increased loan demand. We will tap potential demand, convert pipeline projects into real ones, and maintain good loan investment speed. We'll strengthen personal and retail loans while targeting weak links in the real economy across the five major areas, and continue to optimize our corporate loan structure. Thank you.
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Moderator31:06
Now we will come back to Hong Kong for more questions. The lady on the fourth row.
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Reporter31:15
From Phoenix TV. We noticed your net interest margin has been maintaining a leading edge. What measures have been effective? And regarding provision reduction and various policies, what is their impact on the net interest margin reduction? Can you also give us a future expectation of the change? Thank you.
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Zhang Jinliang31:45
Thank you, Ms. Wang. Net interest margin is something many people care about. For the first half, it was 1.54% for CCB, maintaining a leading position in the industry, with a noticeable reduction in Q2. We continued to optimize business structure, product structure, and maturity structure — five structural optimizations in total. First, we adjusted the asset mix, reducing low-return assets and increasing high-return ones. High-return asset ratio increased by 1.4%. We provided differentiated loans with different pricing, improving competitiveness especially in risk pricing. Our RMB lending rate leads the industry. We also optimized maturity structure and controlled long-term savings ratios. We expect the net interest margin may be approaching a new turning point. Regarding policy impacts, there are both positive and negative effects. The LPR reduction of 25 basis points puts some pressure on margins. However, savings rate adjustments help offset this. The February provision ratio reduction of 0.25% improved margins. In July, the one-year and five-year LPR both reduced by 10 basis points, and banks also lowered savings interest rates. These savings adjustments can hedge against LPR reductions' negative impact, so the overall effect on net interest margin is minimal. Going forward, continued savings rate reductions can help improve the savings structure while slowing margin decline. Our bank will continue to optimize the asset-liability ratio, improve structure, and maintain the stability and competitiveness of our net interest margin. Thank you.
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Moderator36:02
Now we take one more question from Beijing.
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Reporter36:11
Thank you. From the Financial Times. In 2022, your bank started building your pension services called '1314' and launched your own pension services brand. We would like to learn more about your new strategies in risk management and pension finance. Thank you.
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Moderator36:38
The vice president will take this question.
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CCB Vice President36:40
Thank you for the question, and thank you for your continuous attention to the development of our pension finance services. Pension finance is one of the five major areas. At the Third Plenum, it was stated that we need to develop multi-layer, multi-pillar pension finance, increase annuity scheme coverage, and promote personal pension services. This provides good guidance for CCB. As you mentioned, on February 29th, our bank launched the integrated brand for pension financial services with 10 actions covering branch network and detailed services. First, we will build a good branch structure. In March, we opened 60 branches under the new pension services brand with integrated services including microfinance and investment education. We allow pensioners to pay service fees monthly and have launched new wealth management products targeted at pensioners. Going forward, we will expand our pension finance outlet network, integrating our banking advantages with community-based services to bring warmer services to elderly customers. Second, we need to increase the supply of pension financial services products, which are key to maintaining wealth management product value. Our bank has built a portfolio including funds, wealth management, insurance, annuities, and trusts. We've created products with stable returns and high market recognition — our 'hero products.' By the end of July, the return rate of one of our funds ranked first among similar products on the market. Third, we will launch more innovative product offerings under the annuity brand to build integrated solutions. We are the first bank to launch value-added services for annuity schemes, combining employee fringe benefits with pension products, and we have also launched trust products.
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Zhang Jinliang40:32
In terms of added services, we also help companies contribute to the community. This is a charity-based product as an added value service, and these are the new products under development. Fourthly, we will expand the coverage of annuity. CCB relies on our very unique pension subsidiary and serves our corporate customers. At the same time, we leverage our professional services to expand the coverage of annuity products. We have two enterprises based in technology parks, and we also offer annuity products to migrant workers and expatriates. In the first half, we have an increase in new annuity customers. To the silver economy, we have a platform for shared services, deepening the collaboration with enterprises needing pension services, and we continuously optimize internal management procedures. Elderly care is one of the industries for which we provide priority support, and we also offer special loans for pensioners so we can diversify our economy. The increase of relevant loans is leading the market. We have very diversified needs from the pension market. It shows great potential and is also one of the important drivers to high-quality development for financial institutions. Going forward, we will build a better brand for our pension services and strengthen the system of our whole portfolio of products so we can be a trustworthy professional bank for pension services. In this way, we can contribute to building the pension system with Chinese characteristics. Thank you.
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Moderator42:51
Thank you. Thank you, President Zhang. Now we will invite another question from Hong Kong, the lady on the fourth row, please.
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Analyst43:01
Thank you, management. I'm from Securities, I'm Shan. I want to ask about the interest income from the aviation industry. We want to know about the aviation business, and there is some fluctuation of the business. For the second half, what are your strategies? The non-interest income and some other non-interest income is also slowing down, so we want to know about the interest income increase.
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Zhang Jinliang43:50
Thank you for your question. So you have two questions about interest income. First, as you mentioned, for the first half of the year, CCB's reduction has been enlarging compared with the previous term. The intermediary income contributed to various factors like the custody of assets and insurance, etc. The income has been decreasing and is also impacted by relevant policy. The whole banking industry faces the same problem. These are the core areas that have been influenced. While the income increase is slowing down, we also noticed that in recent years we have been promoting the businesses and have had some positive results recently. We want to push forward the intermediary business and pursue high-quality development instead of volume development. In terms of customer base, income structure optimization, and management efficiency, we have all seen noticeable results. In the customer base, we have solid business development and a solid foundation. Our settlement accounts exceeded 16 million, and we had a new increase of 900,000 accounts. In recent years, we also laid emphasis on wealth management business, and for the customers of these sectors, the customer base exceeded 4 million with a new increase of around 500,000. For our wealth management, we maintained very stable growth, and transaction activity has also been improved. The customer base is a strong foundation despite some fluctuation of intermediary income. We always say that customers are our core foundation for development. In terms of income structure, in recent years we have been promoting the intermediary business to be light asset and high efficiency. There are also some good results. For the first half of the year, there were two indicators worth your attention. First, our non-interest income share takes up more than 16% of the total income. Compared with our peers, we are leading in terms of credit business, online payment, and custody services. Secondly, we are trying to explore new impetus for intermediary businesses and increase their share. For the first half of the year, management, consuming finance, investment banking, and income from new industries are taking up more than 6% of our total structure. The new impetus is still improving. In terms of lean management, we try to control our cost and explore new growth engines. The results are good for the first half. We also emphasize the merchants—their payment orders are in high volume. We try to differentiate the management of different types of merchants, and the fees and contribution from these merchants are all very noticeable and satisfactory changes. We have new impetus and new transformation direction with effective measures. For the second half prospect, as the economy is stabilizing and on the capital market, we have various government meetings, like the economy work meeting by the central government, which emphasized the internal stability of the capital market. There are some industry opportunities. The central government also mentioned tailor-made development in terms of information technology, AI, and biometrics. We see new opportunities. In terms of consuming finance, there are abundant opportunities, and the issuance of local banks will be accelerated in the second half. We have unique advantages in the consulting business on projects. From our observation in recent months, some of our subsidiaries like the trust, finance management, and asset management companies have development that is better compared with the first half. Overall, we are faced with a more positive and optimistic environment. For your second question about non-interest income, we actually have a new increase of 10.7 billion, thanks to several tools like funds and forex interest returns all seeing positive growth. In terms of cost, we enhanced the control—for example, insurance fees and other costs have seen several reductions, contributing to the increase of non-interest income. Our positive efforts are accumulating, so for the second half of the year, non-interest income will maintain positive momentum. There may be some fluctuations affected by various factors. In recent years, we also enhanced our deployment of investment assets and optimization of financial assets, with better management to further improve the stable development of non-interest income. Thank you.
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Moderator52:40
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Zhang. Another question from Beijing.
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Analyst52:54
Thank you, management. From F Securities, in the first half we saw very positive growth in deposits at CCB. What measures did you take to achieve that? Recently the numbers show changes of M1 and state-owned enterprises, so can you please talk about the trend of deposits going forward? What measures will you take to maintain the growth of deposits?
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CCB Vice President53:35
Thank you. You asked three questions. The first being the measures we've taken to support deposit growth. Indeed, in the first half we maintained a very good level in deposit growth. The incremental value of our deposit was 1.05 trillion RMB. Personal deposit is leading the industry. We have taken three measures. The first is to focus on the customer foundation. CCB has always been committed to high-quality development of customers and expanding the customer base. In June, our corporate and private customers reached 11.34 million with 2.72 million high-value customers. Personal customers reached 762 million, and those customers with 200,000 RMB or above increased by 1.4 million in the first half, with the increase rate also leading the industry. Secondly, we focus on a closed-loop fiscal and consumer finance approach. We focus on settlement and payment services to improve our capability of closed-loop operation, boosting the development of current deposits. By the end of June, current deposits accounted for 43.94% in our domestic deposits, higher than industry peers. Thirdly, we focus on digital operation of key customer groups. For key customers including small merchants and pensioners, we made a big effort to improve our digital insight, digital access, and ecosystem services. We strengthened the building of service teams, leading to higher contribution in funding from these customer groups. In the first half, daily increased deposit from key customer groups saw an increase of 3%. Personal merchants saw a balance increase of their daily average loans of 7.6% by the end of June. Based on these reasons, our interest-paying ratio has also decreased. Last year it was 1.72%, now five basis points lower. For personal customers, there was a decrease of 12 basis points, which is rather significant compared with industry peers. To your second question on the long-term trend of deposits, given the current situation, the trend of deposits with the interest rate being stabilized will continue. As for term deposits, there is a slowing down in the trend of getting more long-term. Among the new deposits, term deposits with a three-year term or more decreased by four percentage points compared with last year. So long-term term deposits are becoming less. The third question is about our measures to boost deposit growth going forward. We will focus on quality of liabilities and stabilize and increase deposits. We have special actions to foster high-quality development of liabilities. We will deepen customer operation, increase product coverage, and improve customer loyalty to build a stronger base. Secondly, we will deepen all-cycle services for funds and focus on digital operation and ecosystem so we can maintain our advantages in serving customers through their life cycle. We will also optimize our deposit structure and term structure so the interest-paying cost will be maintained at a reasonable level, and our deposit business can maintain high-quality development. Thank you.
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Moderator59:50
Okay, question from the Hong Kong venue. The lady on the third row, please.
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Reporter59:58
Thank you. I'm from Hong Kong Commercial Daily. I want to ask about ESG. There is higher and higher attention to ESG. CCB is doing a good job on ESG development. Do you have anything to share with us about your next steps?
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Zhang Jinliang1:00:20
Thank you for your question. I will answer this. In recent years, CCB has fully implemented the new philosophy of development regarding ESG, and we implement ESG in all our management systems, coordinating social, economic, and ecological benefits. We also aim at long-term sustainable development, which has been acknowledged by the whole society. Our ESG rating is leading among global banks, and we are also leading in sustainable banks in the world. We have several practices to share. First, we stick to Chinese characteristics while combining with global best practice. ESG has a people-centered philosophy, and we also have Chinese cultural elements—while benefiting ourselves, we should also benefit others. We put people at the center and explore our own ESG way. We construct a structure that combines the board of directors, council members, and various committees. We actively enhance ESG communication and education and carry forward Chinese characteristic ESG management, laying a solid foundation for our ESG work. Second, we integrate ESG elements in our operation and risk management systems. We fully utilize ESG elements to prevent risks and play a positive role. We push forward the low-carbon transformation, with over 4.46 trillion in transformative economy financing. We construct a leading corporate customer ESG rating assessment system with automatic assessment covering all branches in terms of low-carbon management. Green outlets and green data centers are promoted, along with paperless operation across the whole bank. We also expand coverage to reach more remote and vulnerable areas, with a loan balance of 3.86 trillion to better guarantee the benefits of financial customers and nurture employees for high-quality sustainable development. Third, in terms of ESG disclosure, we use it as a starting point to leverage whole linear management. ESG has become a very key assessment factor for investors, and our share of institutional investors is very high. We attach high importance to ESG disclosure, using market language and presenting ESG work across several dimensions. We reflect feedback from various regulators and present improvement measures while receiving their acknowledgment. We improve our own sustainable high-quality development, forming a virtuous cycle. The Hong Kong and Shanghai exchanges have also disclosed various regulations on ESG, posting clear and higher requirements for us. In the future, we will fully implement the working spirit of the CPC Congress and central government meetings, leverage the five chapters requirements and various policies, lay a solid foundation of ESG and the carbon emission system, revitalize the rural economy and emerging economy development, further improving our ESG effectiveness in future work. Thank you.
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Moderator1:06:00
Now we will invite one more question from Beijing.
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Reporter1:06:13
Thank you, management, for the opportunity. From 21st Century Economic, I have a question regarding digital operation. We know that digital finance is one of the five major areas and is an important aspect in the deployment of national policies. CCB has an advantage in it. In digital operation, using digital technology to enhance your capability, what have you done and what are your plans?
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CCB Vice President1:06:50
Thank you. Digital finance for commercial banks is an innovative measure to adapt to digitalization development. It involves both digital technology and financial technology, concerning the transformation of its own services and its support link to other economic sectors. For ourselves, through years of practice and exploration, we have built the initial capability for digital operation and our plan for digital operation through practical actions in operation, consumer services, and reducing burdens for employees. Our measures have paid off. Given that our traditional service model was unable to cover the large size of customers, we started the integration of online and offline operation. At present, we can access long-tail customers—there are 40 million of these customers—and we have seen efficiency. Regarding online customers, which is one of our focuses, our binary star platform has over 500 million registrants. Every day we have around 30 million new customers using our online digital finance platform. Monthly customers using our online forms exceeded 192 million. This online financial services improved our operational efficiency, and we are now among the top in the industry in the number of users. Through digital means, we reduce the burden of employees using intelligent digital identification, machine learning, and other new technologies. For bills, foreign exchange, and other services, we have replaced 60% of manual work with artificial intelligence. Through these digital technologies, we optimize the account-opening process for corporate customers, reducing time from 45 to 20 minutes. At the same time, we use these technologies to serve the wider digital economy. We have leveraged our advantages through comprehensive financial services to improve our ability to serve the digital economy. In the first half of this year, the loan balances to the digital economy reached significant levels. These are some initial achievements. Digital finance is one of the five major areas in finance, and we need to improve capability in this regard. At the same time, for green finance, inclusive finance, and pension finance, digital finance can also lend support. We have always attached great importance to digital finance, which is why we will work on it continuously. Through continuous efforts in developing digital finance, we can increase our capability and better serve the development of the digital economy.
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Moderator1:11:52
Okay, the lady on the fifth row.
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Analyst1:11:57
Thank you for the opportunity. I'm from City Bank, I'm J. Gua. I want to ask about asset quality. In terms of revenue pressure and the external environment, it is especially important to maintain good asset quality. CCB has always been robust and solid in this aspect. NPL has been decreasing, so can you share with us your prospect and outlook on the second half NPL ratio?
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CCB Vice President1:12:30
Thank you for the question. The quality of assets is closely related to the real economy and the risk control capacity of the bank. CCB has always adhered to very stable management and tries to reduce and proactively control risks to guarantee stable asset management. For the first half, our NPL ratio is only 1.35%, down by 0.02 percentage points compared with the end of last year. Overall, we have a very stable status. We anticipate that for the second half it will still be stable. In terms of macroeconomic status, the overall economic operation is stable. For the first half, the GDP of China maintained a growth of 5%. Now the operation faces various challenges, but with policy implementation and measures taken, we continue to push forward stable high-quality development. We still believe that the NPL ratio will be stable. In terms of key industries, for real estate, the effectiveness of various measures and policies has been releasing, with positive results. For the first half, the NPL ratio from real estate has been reduced by 0.04 percentage points, and the NPL exposure has also been decreasing. For local government financing, the pressure has been alleviated, and with fiscal and taxation reform, the long-term control system has been established, beneficial to the control of risks. We will also try to control and eliminate risks to reduce the NPL ratio from our own operation. Our risk control measures have a very solid foundation. We can face the new challenges and changes in business operation. We have always adhered to serving the real economy and doing a good job in the five chapters. For the first half, green finance and inclusive finance have seen stable growth, and we keep a leading way in retail finance with linear management and economy of scale development. We remain prudent to implement integration of management. Our risk control measures are effective. By the end of June, our provision coverage ratio maintained at 238%, and we also try to guarantee the second bottom line, emphasizing penetration practice and controlling the NPL ratio. Corporate loan assets have been stable, and personal loans are also stable. For the second half, we will continue to accelerate our risk control mindset, strengthen measures, and guarantee stable development for a solid and robust foundation for future development. Thank you.
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Moderator1:17:14
Thank you. We published our press release on the results and collected questions of interest from investors. This press conference is also live-streamed. Most of the questions were also answered on the online platform, but now we will take some time to answer a question from online investors regarding the capital market. New regulations have increased your capital adequacy conservation. Given the lower increase rate in loans, would that mean less pressure in capital? Will you go for refinancing through placement or additional shares? Will you try to keep the same as you previously did?
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CCB Vice President1:18:11
Thank you. To the question from online investors, there are two questions—one about capital and one about refinancing. CCB has been committed to robust and prudent principles in capital management. In recent years, with the implementation of Basel III, we deeply advanced the implementation of new capital accounting rules. Our capital adequacy ratio reached 19.25%, with a combined adequacy ratio increase of 1.3 percentage points and CET1 ratio of 14.86% compared with last year. These stats put us among the top banks in the second quarter. In the second half, the capital adequacy ratio will rise again. As a systematically important bank, we are supposed to meet the TLAC requirements of 25% and 18%. Our TLAC will reach 20% in 2025 and a higher level in 2028. As of the first half, the capital ratio was leading in the market, meaning we have a very solid foundation. In July, we issued TLAC debts amounting to around 50 billion, meeting the target in 2025. Because our capital adequacy ratio is close to 20%, we are now making plans for meeting the requirement in 2028. There are two aspects. For the denominator, we need to keep a stable operational level to increase the capability of intrinsic capital and intensive utilization of capital. We had a very good foundation already in implementing Basel III. Under the leadership of Chairman Zhang, all business units of CCB, including front and back offices, overseas and domestic institutions, were all involved in training on the new capital regulations. We have a deep understanding of the new capital regulations and all the risk management measures for efficient control and management of capital. This was very valuable for our understanding of the new capital regulation and lays a good foundation for high-quality development in capital management in the future. As for supplementary external capital, in recent years we have been committed to the combination of internal and external capital. We will continue to supplement and boost our capital level. The scale of new issuance will depend on demand and supply, external environment, national policies, and our strategies. But we have very limited pressure in capital replenishment. We have abundant capital at present, laying a good foundation for our future. As for dividends, this is something we take very seriously because our operation cannot be realized without the support of investors. We are committed to long-term stable cash dividends as a return to shareholders. We have maintained a 30% dividend ratio since 2020 despite the COVID pandemic. From 2020 to 2023, the dividend yield was higher than 5% for A shares and 6% for H shares. It is the first time this year for us to see higher than 7% for H shares, which is a good return. Going forward, we will keep a close eye on regulatory initiatives and look at the impact of dividends on our sustainable operations to maintain the dividend ratio at a reasonable level. The CSRC encouraged all listed companies to give dividends, so we want to be a model and set an example by issuing interim dividends. In mid-August, we approved a 30% interim dividend with relevant stats. According to our governance procedures, we plan to start interim dividends after the Chinese New Year of 2025. Thank you very much to all investors for your long-term support to CCB. We will serve the real economy and community, but at the same time improve our value creation capabilities so we can offer better returns.
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Moderator1:25:43
Okay, because of time, the Q&A session is ended. Thank you all for your participation. Just now, the senior management has answered in a candid way to your questions. I hope that helped you understand the strategies, operation, policy, and outlook of CCB. If you still have any questions, please contact our Board of Directors Office and Investor Relations Department. I wish you good health and everything going well.