About Bill Morrow
DirecTV CEO Bill Morrow discussed the company's acquisition of Dish TV and Sling TV from EchoStar in late June 2025. Morrow stated that the combined entity, with nearly 20 million subscribers, would give DirecTV the influence needed to change carriage agreements with programmers, arguing that "the days of the past of 250 channels are gone" and that consumers do not want to pay for content they do not watch. He described the merger as a move that "buys us some time" and provides the influence to shape the industry, adding that the company plans to offer thinner linear bundles and integrate direct-to-consumer streaming services with a unified user interface.
Morrow also addressed the financial aspects of the deal, saying that current bondholders of EchoStar's DBS business would receive a better deal by exchanging their debt for the debt DirecTV is offering, citing better leverage ratios and confidence in the business model. He noted that the initial leverage ratio would be between two and two-and-a-half times, which he said is better than other pay-TV providers, and that the company aims to bring that ratio below two within 12 to 24 months. The deal is subject to regulatory approvals from the FCC and the Department of Justice.
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Narrator0:02
Bloomberg audio Studios podcasts radio. News: Echostar announced yesterday that it's selling its video distribution business to Direct TV, a merger that the satellite providers have flirted with for almost two decades. We caught up with Echostar CEO Hamid Akavan. Here's what he had to say.
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Hamid Akavan0:20
The founders was that this business ends up in great hands and continue to develop according to their lifelong work and vision to make it one of the greatest companies they can make. The combination of the two companies now will be that company that is unique in its position in the marketplace. So it's bittersweet. In a way, they see it in great hands, they're coming together in being that challenger that Charlie has created over time, but it's also letting it go. It's also very difficult. So the answer is bittersweet. Not really obvious, but satellite TV is ultimately in a state of decline. Will this be a period of managed decline for the company? Now it certainly as part of the thesis that right now this is not the time it used to be 10 or 15 years ago when the position of these two companies that are coming together was unique and was very strong. The two companies have lost 60% of their subscribers since 2016. Everyone has access to broadband today, whether it be terrestrial or through satellite Starlink, the direct-to-consumer digital providers, programmers going around. These two companies are 10 to 20 times larger in terms of customer base. So it is time for these companies to come together to increase their sustainability and ability to negotiate better deals that they can pass on to the consumers.
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Caroline1:39
That was Echostar CEO Hamid Akavan. Now let's continue this pay TV merger. We're joined by well who Echostar sold Dish to: Direct TV. The CEO now joins us, Bill Morrow. Bill, welcome to the show. I ask you this: strategy going forward, the combined 19 million subscribers you now have, what do you offer them? Is it managed decline?
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Bill Morrow2:07
Well, thanks Caroline. Actually, we're going to offer them something that the new kind of competition cannot. Think about the volume of direct-to-consumer subscription type services: these are the Netflix, the Amazon Primes, the HBO Maxes that are out there. They have a very narrow scope of the content that they offer, the way in which they can only navigate through their platform forms. Consumers are left with having to pick and choose multiple subscription services and manage this on their own. They're having difficulty navigating across these different platforms. What the new company with Direct TV and Dish will do is number one, it will actually bundle all of those different services together. We'll still have a form of linear or time-of-day type programming, but we're going to let the consumer pick and choose two or three or four if that's what they want of these other direct-to-consumer programs. We'll wrap a user interface around that, we'll make navigation easy, we'll make search and recommendation easy. But equally as important, Caroline, is that the combined entity with just under 20 million subscribers will give us the very needed influence on the industry to work with the programmers to say the days of the past of 250 channels are gone. Consumers don't want to pay for content that they are never going to watch, and the programmers are still kind of tied to those old carriage agreements. This influence is going to change that. It is in the interest of the consumers, we think it's in the interest of the programmers in the long run, and of course to our company as well.
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Caroline3:43
Bill, I can see how you offer from a price perspective, and I can also see how ultimately this is about slimming down costs. But what about growth? Do you think you will ever increase that number of subscribers, or is it about just serving the ones you have?
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Bill Morrow3:59
No, well, Caroline, we've really studied the market on what are the pain points of the current environment that consumers feel. Again, having to manage multiple subscriptions, not knowing where your content is. Even the biggest search engines can't keep up when you're looking for a particular season or episode of your favorite series or a movie that you want to watch. We know that the consumers need more than what's available today. By combining these two companies, having the influence to be able to change those carriage agreements, we're going to give them thinner linear bundles of genres that they can pick. We'll let them add in and insert the SVOD or those direct-to-consumer Netflix or Amazon Prime type services, and again with a very different kind of experience that will allow us to get back into a growth situation. Now we need the two companies to come together because we are falling fast. You've heard this from a number of different industry experts. So this buys us some time, gives us the influence to shape the industry that's all about the consumer, and it's going to offer them something that they haven't had.
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Caroline5:01
But do we need more streaming? I know that you're thinking about Direct TV stream and Dish TV, and ultimately it sounds like we're going back to the past by rebundling the things we've already snipped in terms of the cord.
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Bill Morrow5:14
No, that bundled past is not going to serve us going into the future. That's why we believe with the new kind of carriage agreements, it's going to allow you, the rest of the consumers, the rest of your viewers, to pick and choose the genres of their choice and not pay for all the rest of it. So it's not as big of a bundle as what we've seen in the past. That's what we've been advocating. That was the deal that we struck with Disney. We fought so hard for to be able to let the consumers pick what they want to watch and not force them to pay for stuff that they'll never tune into. And that is our future.
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Caroline5:47
You have other stakeholders, largely private equity now when it comes to TPG, but also the creditors. A lot of this is based upon whether or not the bond holders of Dish in particular sign up to this. Do you think that will go through? How painful is it to take those sorts of haircuts?
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Bill Morrow6:05
Well, we think the current bond holders of the DBS business under Echostar with Dish are going to have a better deal by converting and exchanging into the debt that we're offering. We think it'll be better leverage ratios than what they see today. There's better confidence in terms of this business model looking forward into the future without the risk that they might perceive today without the DBS business. We also have advocated and explained that while our initial leverage ratio will be in the two to two and a half times, that still is better than any other pay TV provider that is out in the marketplace today. Within a 12 to 24 month window, we're going to be very focused on bringing that leverage ratio down to below two. So that's the reason that we believe they're interested in making this exchange, lowering that debt, making sure that this M&A deal can happen. And then we of course proceed to the SEC and the DOJ for the needed regulatory approvals.
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Caroline7:04
We'd like to keep in touch as you go through those approvals. Direct TV CEO Bill Morrow, we really appreciate your time.