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Günter Albers
Managing Partner (Geschäftsführender Gesellschafter), ELA Container GmbH

Podcast „Alles neu Aus dem Maschinenraum“ | Folge #34: Pia und Günter Albers von ELA Container

🎥 Apr 24, 2025 📺 Maschinenraum ⏱ 43m
Es gibt verschiedene Arten, in das eigene Familienunternehmen einzusteigen. Pia Albers vom Container-Anbieter ELA hat den ...
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Transcript (30 segments)
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Host22:12
Regarding you, Pier and Günter: For you, Pier, it is sometimes easier as a member of the shareholder family to secure budgets in IT and digitalization, or to push things through, than it might be for a manager who is not connected to the family. Exactly, we have to ask the other colleagues.
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Günter Albers22:35
No, but fundamentally we have a very structured approach where everyone must justify why they want to hire someone or need a budget. For us, the question doesn't even arise, because if you listen to Reinold Würz, he says IT is the future. Companies where IT is not a priority are lost. We've doubled our IT staff in 1.5 years, as we have to manage major transformation projects. Budgets are not a problem for anyone in this position; management sets the focus areas.
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Host24:21
Maybe we can now move beyond IT to hardware. In our pre-talk, we discussed your value chain depth. You used to do assembly, but now you've moved into manufacturing containers yourselves, right?
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Günter Albers24:40
Yes, exactly. Previously, our production was assembling components as per customer wishes. But due to the high volume of containers we need, we increased depth. We acquired a new hall—280 meters long, 90 meters wide, on a 180,000-square-meter site near Haren—and are building a fully automated production line that turns out a frame every 18 minutes. We also bought a company to make our own windows. Behind this lies the question of vulnerability. It's a capital-intensive business, so market entry is not easy. We initially sold containers to generate cash before moving into rentals.
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Host26:37
Mhm. Your company location is in Haren, Lower Saxony. Where exactly is that?
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Günter Albers26:48
Our location is Haren an der Ems. Everyone knows the Meyer Werft shipyard where cruise ships are built, and probably Schloss Dankern, the largest indoor amusement park in Germany. And of course, SV Meppen played in the second Bundesliga.
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Host27:11
I see many nodding and laughing. I ask because employee recruitment is a difficult topic for family businesses not in metropolitan areas. How do you work on employer attractiveness?
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Günter Albers27:30
We recognized 10 years ago that we had to build a brand. We underwent a complete rebranding, which was a tough family discussion but ultimately approved. That made us attractive to global companies like Tesla. We also focus on local initiatives: a company restaurant, flexible work models like remote work, and a health institute. Our relaxed corporate culture—everyone uses 'du', we have health days, and we care for employees' well-being—is a key attraction. As a growing, financially strong family business, we offer future prospects, which is important for young talent.
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Host31:11
And you said Reinold Würz says 'IT, IT, IT' but perhaps culture is key. You both have mentioned culture several times. It sounds like it's not really tangible—is it a success of recruiting the right people, or do you also work on culture? Does your Academy have components that address cultural topics?
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Günter Albers31:41
I studied to be a ship merchant and initially didn't want to join the company because my two siblings were already there. But my father asked, and they said yes, so I joined and have enjoyed it ever since.
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Host32:24
We have many questions from the audience. One is for Pia: Is there a topic you would already do differently than your father? If so, which and why, and could you enforce it?
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Pia32:46
Good question. We are often of the same opinion. When I bring up topics, I back them with arguments, and he sleeps on it and usually agrees. What I do differently is bring a more analytical approach—writing down situations and target pictures. We have a 48-hour rule in the family to discuss and resolve issues, and so far we've always found a way forward.
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Host34:19
So you resolve conflicts in daily business by taking 48 hours when you notice different opinions.
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Pia34:31
Exactly. The 48 hours is great because you don't forget it. When someone is upset, you discuss and find a solution. I also want to emphasize that we are serious about transformation. I brought a Bumblebee from San Francisco for Pier; it stands in front of the IT building as a symbol of transformation, creating a spirit of departure.
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Host35:13
Before we go to the final round, we need to clarify a question from the audience: Where does the name 'Ela' come from? I believe there are two explanations?
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Günter Albers35:30
The main explanation is from the names Elisabeth Albas. My mother and wife are both named Elisabeth. Coincidentally, the district changed from Meppen to Emsland, and the license plate prefix became EL, so we added an A to get ELA. That's the second explanation.
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Host36:16
Now we come to the final round with our internal book club. Your gift comes from Christoph Werner. Your book recommendation goes to Alexander Gerfer. Which book has inspired you recently? Please start.
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Günter Albers37:21
I would recommend a book by Ortwin Goldback that connects to the Maschinenraum. Another is Reinold Würz's first book, because the most cited person is Dita Krämer, who has been my sparring partner for 23 years.
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Host38:03
Pia, do you also have a book recommendation?
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Pia38:06
I recommend 'Emotional Intelligence' by Daniel Goleman. It's a beautifully written book with practical examples that show where to be careful.
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Host38:31
Great, thank you. The second question is for both of you. Maybe you start, Pier: What are you learning now that you couldn't do before?
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Pia38:42
Hmm. What am I learning that I wasn't good at before? Maybe you can start.
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Günter Albers38:48
I can take over. We say: you learn until all fingers are the same length. Nothing is more constant than change; we have to reinvent ourselves daily. If ten screws are loose, you try to tighten all ten. That's my credo.
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Pia39:22
I agree completely. But if I had to pick one thing, it's the entry into the company and the generation change. So many topics to handle—working with colleagues, new impulses every day. It's very exciting.
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Host40:01
And the last question: What chapter of family business history do you want to write?
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Pia40:10
For me, it's clear: I want to make ELA a data-driven company, where we make data-driven decisions collectively. Also important are diversity and sustainability, values of my generation, while never forgetting where we come from—the first and second generations.
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Host41:03
You have nothing to add?
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Günter Albers41:06
I agree completely. I'm a bit older. My siblings and I have been in the company for decades. We grew from a regional provider to a global one, built the offshore business where we are market leader. Our story is internationalization. Now we have a plan for 2030. We are doing our homework—this year we focused on internal processes—and after one or two years we will really get going.
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Host42:52
Okay, Günter, so the chapter is definitely not finished yet. We look forward to following ELA Container's story. There are still many questions from the audience; I'm sure you'll find time for individual conversations today. Thank you very much for listening. To all listeners, we welcome your feedback on our channels or stars. See you next time. Thank you.
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