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Jayant Acharya
Joint Managing Director & CEO, JSW Steel Limited

JSW Steel Earnings Call for Q3FY26

🎥 Jan 23, 2026 📺 trendlyne ⏱ 65m 👁 186 views
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About Jayant Acharya

Jayant Acharya, Joint Managing Director and CEO of JSW Steel, discussed the company's first-quarter performance for fiscal year 2027 in media appearances. He reported record sales and described the quarter as having "very strong operational performance." Acharya attributed the results to robust domestic steel demand, which he said grew at 8.3%, and a 15% quarter-on-quarter volume growth. He noted that capacity utilization, excluding the BF3 furnace, stood at 94%. Acharya stated that net debt to EBITDA improved to 1.46 from the previous quarter, with net debt reduced to approximately 46,000 crore rupees. He said the company's comfort level is to maintain the ratio below 2.5 as it expands capacity toward a target of 62 million tons. Looking ahead, Acharya said the July-September monsoon quarter typically brings seasonal impacts, but he expected "better traction in terms of demand and prices" in the second half of the year. He indicated that Q2 would see increased volumes from the ramp-up of the BF3 furnace at Vijayanagar and from JSW Steel's Ohio operations in the U.S. Regarding costs, Acharya said cooking coal would impact expenses to some extent but that iron ore prices have started reducing. He said he could not provide a specific EBITDA band for the next quarter due to difficulty in estimating prices. On expansion strategy, Acharya stated the company's focus is on brownfield growth and the Paradip greenfield project, and that it would only consider other assets if they are "really so attractive."

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Transcript (134 segments)
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Operator0:00
Q3 FY26 earnings conference call. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during this conference, please signal an operator by pressing star and then zero on your touch-tone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Ashwin Bajaj, Group Head of Investor Relations. Thank you and over to you, sir.
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Ashwin Bajaj0:33
Yes, thank you very much, operator. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to JSW's earnings call for Q3 of FY2026. We have with us today the management team represented by Mr. Jayant Acharya, Joint MD and CEO; Mr. G. Shatur, Chief Operating Officer; Mr. Arun Maheswari, Director of Commercial and Marketing; and Mr. Shams Sor, CFO. We will start with opening remarks by Mr. Acharya and then open the floor to questions. So with that, over to you, Mr. Acharya.
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Jayant Acharya1:03
Good evening everyone. Let me begin with our strategy. JSW Steel has adopted a prudent strategy over the past years, creating significant value for all stakeholders. On December 3rd, we announced a strategic joint venture with JFE Steel Japan for the BPSL steel business. JFE will take a 50% stake at an equity value of ₹31,500 crores and enterprise value of ₹53,000 crores. This transaction enables ₹32,000 crores cash flow and about ₹37,000 crores deleveraging for JSW Steel. This partnership allows us to grow BPSL with our project expertise and operational excellence while leveraging JFE's technological expertise for value-added products. It also allows JSW Steel to accelerate growth across its portfolio in a financially prudent manner. Today, the board approved a 5 million ton steel plant at Jagatsinghpur, Odisha, housed in JSW Utkal Limited, with capex of ₹31,600 crores and commissioning by FY30. This first phase has expansion potential to 13.2 million tons. We are on track to reach 50 million tons in India by FY31. On the macro front, the IMF projects 3.3% global growth in 2026, with India's GDP pegged at 7.4%. We remain the world's fastest-growing major economy. Strong post-GST consumption momentum, income tax cuts, and benign inflation are supportive. Rural indicators remain positive, commercial real estate is robust, and conditions for private capex are increasingly conducive. India's steel consumption grew about 7% over 9 months, though Q3 was at 4.6%. December demand was about 14.5 million tons and Q4 looks good on seasonally strong demand and restocking. For FY27, demand is projected at 7-9% growth. The government has imposed anti-dumping duties on hot-rolled coils from Vietnam and cold-rolled coils from China, plus a safeguard duty has been finalized, giving domestic industry a level playing field. In China, steel production declined 4.4% in CY25, a decline of about 44 million tons, but exports surged 14% to 133.5 million tons due to weak domestic consumption. Anti-involution measures, export licensing, and production moderation should help support regional prices in Asia. JSW Steel ranked number one globally in the S&P Global Corporate Sustainability Assessment and continues to be part of the Dow Jones Sustainability Index. Our Dolvi unit was awarded India's best performing unit by the President of India. We have 1 GW of renewable capacity commissioned with approval for 2.5 GW generation and 320 MWh of battery storage. We deployed AI-based vision systems across operations that are delivering substantial cost savings, reduced emissions, and prevention of over a thousand safety incidents. At Vijayanagar, the 5 million ton plant is fully ramped up. The 1.5 million ton BF3 upgradation remains on track for commissioning by end of Q4 FY26. Dolvi Phase 3 expansion from 10 to 15 million tons is progressing with completion expected by September 2027. The board also approved 2 million ton tinplate and 3.6 million ton GI/GL capacity at downstream units in Rajpura. On raw materials, 13 of our 23 iron ore mines are now operational after commencing production from the 0.5 million ton mine in Goa. Once fully operationalized, we expect to produce about 50 million tons per annum, covering 50% of our iron ore requirement by FY31. On coking coal, three mines and coal linkages in India plus a 30% stake in the Illawarra coking coal mine in Australia will provide about 5 million tons, meeting 25% of our requirement. We are also acquiring the Mozambi high-grade coking coal deposit, expected to close in Q4 of this calendar year. Consolidated crude steel production was 7.48 million tons, up 6% YoY. Indian operations delivered 7.28 million tons, up 7% YoY, with utilization at approximately 93%. We achieved best-ever sales, up 14% YoY, with domestic sales rising 10% in Q3 and 12% in the first 9 months. Value-added product sales were the highest ever at 4.54 million tons, growing 16% YoY and forming about 61% of total volumes. Consolidated revenue stood at ₹45,991 crores with adjusted EBITDA of ₹6,620 crores, EBITDA per ton close to ₹8,700, and a margin of 14.4%. Indian operations delivered adjusted EBITDA of ₹6,522 crores with a margin of 15%, enabled by strong domestic sales growth and better value-added mix. US operations reported EBITDA of $3.1 million, lower due to the Ohio plant shutdown for caster upgradation. Italian operations delivered EBITDA of €5.3 million. Consolidated PAT stood at ₹2,410 crores compared to ₹719 crores in Q3 of last year, after recognizing net deferred tax assets of ₹1,439 crores related to the slump sale of the BPSL steel business. Net debt was at ₹80,347 crores, with net debt to EBITDA at 2.91 and net debt to equity at 0.92. Weighted average interest cost improved to 6.51%, an improvement of approximately 60 bps year-on-year. Capex during the quarter was about ₹3,500 crores and total for 9 months stood at ₹10,000 crores. For FY26, we expect total capex of ₹15,000-16,000 crores. The JSW One platform saw a significant uptick in volumes, with GMBV of ₹4,544 crores, a 36% jump YoY. We have achieved over 74% of our consolidated volume guidance for FY26 and expect to broadly achieve our full-year guidance of 30.5 million tons for production and 29.2 million tons for sales. To conclude, steel prices have begun recovering from multi-year lows in late December and have continued an uptrend in January. Q4 margins should be better on higher steel prices supported by seasonally strong demand, which should offset higher raw material prices. We expect cooking coal costs to increase between $15 to $20 while iron ore prices are expected to be range-bound. We expect strong Q4 volumes and see steel demand growth of 7-9% for FY27. We'll be happy to take your questions. Thank you.
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Operator18:55
Thank you very much. We will now begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touch-tone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants are requested to please use handsets while asking a question and to limit your questions to two per participant. If you have any further questions, you may rejoin the queue. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. Our first question comes from the line of Sumangal Nath from Kotak Securities. Please go ahead. So, Sumangal, your line has been unmuted. You may proceed with your question.
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Sumangal Nath19:49
Yeah, thanks for the chance. Good evening everyone and congratulations on the new expansion announcement. First question is a bookkeeping one — if you could highlight what is the steel price increase we are seeing in the last three or four weeks? And as far as the timeline is concerned, what is the update on the slurry pipeline and the JFE Bhushan deal closure timelines?
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Jayant Acharya20:21
The prices of steel have started recovering from the multi-year lows in the last quarter. In the end of December, we saw prices moving for flat steel by roughly ₹1,500 per ton. In the beginning of January, it has moved by about ₹2,000 per ton. We see some recovery possibility during this quarter as we move ahead. The slurry pipeline is expected to be completed in Q4 of FY27. On the BPSL, we are pretty much on track versus the timeline we had indicated. Earlier this week we received the Competition Commission's approval for the venture. We are right now in the process of obtaining shareholders' approval, which we expect by the first week of February. As indicated, we should see the slump sale concluded before end of March, translating into about ₹24,400 crores of effective cash coming into JSW Steel and a net leverage reduction of about ₹29,000 crores. The second leg also remains on track, expected end of Q1 of FY28, which will be an additional ₹7,875 crores.
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Sumangal Nath22:01
Yeah. Got it. I have one more question, slightly on a medium-to-long-term strategy. If you look at our expansion by FY30, we would reach somewhere around 47 million tons in India and we'll be adding capacity only at the rate of around 7-8% CAGR. Now, given the Bhushan divestment, our balance sheet would be quite deleveraged — potentially around 1.5 times net debt to EBITDA. Does it make sense to evaluate other brownfield expansion opportunities parallelly, or should we just expect this expansion till FY30 and then evaluate sometime closer to FY28-29 as the next expansion plan?
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Jayant Acharya22:51
If you see the presentation we have given this quarter, we have indicated expansions likely by FY31, which takes it to about 56 million tons by FY31, including 1.5 million tons of Ohio and 4.5 million tons of the BPSL asset. So we have moved up with respect to our earlier goal of 50 million tons in India by the end of this decade. The combination of the value unlock in BPSL certainly enables us, as you rightly said, to expand faster, which we are doing. We have taken the Odisha project, we are doing a project in north India for tinplate and substrate for GI and GL, and we will be able to fast-track our other brownfield expansions as we go along into this decade. We are adding capacities in line to meet India's demand.
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Operator24:05
Sorry to interrupt, sir. We request you to please rejoin the queue if you have any further questions.
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Sumangal Nath24:10
Sure, thank you. Thank you.
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Operator24:12
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ajashandeep Chada from Nomura. Please go ahead.
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Ajashandeep Chada24:22
Hello. Hi. Thank you for the opportunity. Am I audible?
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Operator24:29
Yes, you're audible.
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Ajashandeep Chada24:31
Thank you for the opportunity. My first question is on the lines of — you are expecting 7-9% volume growth in line with current steel consumption growth. Just wanted to understand, if we go one step deeper, from which segments are you expecting the majority, or which segments will lead this demand? We understand that GDP is growing and overall steel consumption will go up, but specific to JSW, which segment do you believe will lead that growth? Is it auto, industrial, retail, or any other segment that you see?
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Jayant Acharya25:16
We are seeing growth across sectors. If you look at the India story now, you'll see growth across construction and infrastructure, good growth in commercial real estate, good growth in industrial, and now post the GST announcement, especially in the consumption side — automotive, appliances. The other area is renewable energy. By and large, we are seeing it across sectors.
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Ajashandeep Chada25:52
So my related question: has the intensity of flat products in construction, retail, and real estate gone up in the last couple of years? And along with that, I just wanted to understand the new capacity you have announced — what will be the capex intensity and the product mix?
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Jayant Acharya26:18
The new capacity will be flat steel. It will be a 5 million ton facility with a hot strip mill, steel melting capability, and blast furnace. The steel melting capability will be for roughly about 6.5 to 7 million tons, with potential to grow. The hot strip mill can ultimately be expanded to 6 million tons once the second blast furnace is taken up. On your second question about the intensity of flat steel in construction — the intensity has been increasing gradually. Globally, flat steel is used in construction through steel-based plated constructions, and we are seeing that slowly catch up in India. Steel and glass buildings are coming up in India — they are safer, faster to construct, and unlock value in terms of time. Bridges are also adding to flat consumption, as people are looking at steel columns and steel supporting infrastructure for bridges because it finishes construction faster. So yes, the intensity is going up.
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Ajashandeep Chada28:02
Thank you for that, sir. And if you can tell me the capex of the new capacity — sorry if I missed it.
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Jayant Acharya28:09
₹31,600 crores.
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Ajashandeep Chada28:12
Thank you so much, sir. I got that. This is also building in some of the infrastructure for the expansion of the second phase. Yeah, understood. So the next phase of expansion will be at a lower intensity pattern.
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Jayant Acharya28:28
Correct.
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Ajashandeep Chada28:30
Understood. I'll join back with you for further questions. Thank you.
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Operator28:36
Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Rahul Gupta from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
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Rahul Gupta28:42
Hi, thank you for taking my questions. My first question is — given strong volumes during the quarter as well, your domestic volume guidance of 28.2 million tons would imply flat volumes year-on-year for Q4. How should we look at your Q4 volumes with respect to that? Would you revise your sales guidance?
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Jayant Acharya29:16
From a sales guidance point of view, we are maintaining our guidance of 29.2 million tons. Production guidance also at 30.5 million tons is more or less on track. Going forward into next year, as the BF3 capacity unlock happens, we will be able to add to our available capacities and that would further increase sales from all our assets.
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Rahul Gupta29:48
Okay. So am I reading it right that your India volumes would be flat, assuming you don't change your guidance?
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Jayant Acharya29:58
Why do you say flat?
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Rahul Gupta30:01
On a year-on-year basis.
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Jayant Acharya30:02
No — the inventory liquidation, you're probably not counting. We did an unlock of 300,000 tons of inventory in Q3. In the current quarter also we are looking at some inventory liquidation in Q4. From a guidance perspective, we had sales of 7.64 million tons last quarter. Our guidance is that we will meet 29.2 million tons. So maybe similar to Q3 for Q4. From an Indian operations point of view, it will be slightly higher, but from an overall basis it will not be very different.
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Rahul Gupta30:14
No, I meant for fourth quarter. So if I look at the fourth quarter,
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Jayant Acharya30:20
Yeah, I'm looking at the fourth quarter. I'm saying we liquidated inventory in quarter three. We are looking at some inventory liquidation in quarter four as well. From a guidance perspective, we had sales of 7.64 million tons last quarter. Our guidance is that we will meet 29.2 million tons. So maybe similar with respect to Q3, Q4 — if that's what you're asking — from an Indian operations point of view it will be slightly higher, but from an overall basis it will not be very different.
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Rahul Gupta30:51
Got it. Thank you. Now if I look at the detailed capex table that you have shared on slide 39, can you help us break down the mining capex and also value-added capex a bit further? Thanks for highlighting Mozambique and the downstream capex separately, but can you help us with more details on what all comes into this?
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Jayant Acharya31:18
I think the details the investor team can explain, but you're talking about the consolidated capacity update, right? That's what we have given you in that slide.
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Rahul Gupta31:29
It's the capex guidance for the next five years, the amount of capex. But yeah, okay, I'll take that offline.
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Jayant Acharya31:38
What we are trying to say is that we will be spending about ₹100,000 crores over the next four to five years. We will give a breakup year-wise in our annual board results in May, but roughly over four to five years you can spread it. It'll be a little higher in the next two years and then slowly go down.
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Rahul Gupta32:03
I was actually looking for a breakdown of mining and value-added but I can take that offline. One final question — if you look at realizations on a reported basis, quarter-on-quarter it has been much better. Adjusted for JBML, did share of value-added products improve quarter-on-quarter, or am I missing anything over here?
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Jayant Acharya32:28
So we have been giving you the value-added numbers without the JSWML in the last few quarters. This time, including JSWML, the value-added product mix is 61%. Excluding JSWML, it is 67%.
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Rahul Gupta32:45
Okay, that's helpful. Thank you.
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Operator32:51
Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Amit Murka from Axis Capital. Please go ahead.
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Amit Murka32:57
Hi, good evening and thanks for the opportunity. First, a bookkeeping question — in the quarter, what was iron ore sales that you made?
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Jayant Acharya33:12
Just one second. What's your other question? Maybe we answer that first.
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Amit Murka33:33
It is about 13 million tons.
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Ashwin Bajaj33:41
Okay. And what was it the last quarter? Why I'm asking that is because the revenues don't seem to have gone down in terms of the realization decline that was expected.
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Jayant Acharya33:54
Indeed. So, you are seeing the standalone numbers, right? We'll give you this input offline. It's primarily iron ore sales in Q3.
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Ashwin Bajaj33:58
Yeah, I'm looking at the standalone numbers.
Okay. Sure. And also when I look at JVML numbers, again over there the realization seems to have been down. So is it like some sale of some semis that has happened over there, like what is really the reason?
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Jayant Acharya34:26
No, basically we look at JVML and Vijayagar from an operations point of view as a combined decision process. We have certain advantages in JVML on the cost side. We have some advantages in JVML on the state tax side. So we have a state tax advantage even if you sell outside the state. Therefore, outside state movement like to the north, we prefer to do from there, which is a higher freight incident and therefore you see a lower realization, but that enables us to overall optimize our total Vijayagar blend because the other units are able to supply to Karnataka, which has a tax advantage. JVML is able to leverage the sales to other locations where we get the tax advantage.
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Operator35:26
Sorry to interrupt. May we request you to please rejoin the queue for further questions. Thank you.
Our next question comes from the line of Vikas Singh from ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.
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Vikas Singh35:40
Hi sir, good evening and thank you for the opportunity. So I just wanted to understand our stance on the CBAM. What is our exposure currently on the European side and any strategy which we are going to tackle in terms of whatever exports which we are doing to Europe?
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Nishwari36:01
I would say CBAM per se has impacted overall the entire exports happening to Europe. It is not particularly impacting India or JSW.
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Operator36:15
Pardon me, sorry to interrupt, sir. May we request you to please come a little closer to the mic when you're speaking, sir.
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Nishwari36:21
Yeah, sorry, it's better now.
So I would say that the CBAM impact is not particular for India or JSW. It has been impacting all the exporters who have been to Europe. The overall real-time impact assessment is still yet to come out because it's still very new. People are still understanding the impact. However, our export has been quite a sizable component into Europe. But because the impact is to overall European exporters, it will find its own way how to export out there. So I don't think it will have a bigger impact on us as a company.
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Vikas Singh37:09
Are there any figures which you would like to put in terms of exposure in terms of tonnage on an annual basis?
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Nishwari37:18
Not really. Basically we have been doing somewhere around 1.2 to 1.3 million tons of export into Europe. But the way markets are shaping up in other geographies, we probably can consume our tonnage over there. At the same time, the India market is also growing much faster. So year on year, our exports component in the overall sales has been dropping. I don't see this having a major impact on our sales volume into exports.
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Jayant Acharya37:45
So from a percentage point of view, Europe as a percentage of our total exports is going down. Asia, Middle East, and other countries are picking up. So some part is already getting mitigated. We will understand the guidelines fully as and when they come and we'll be able to give you maybe some more color as we go along. But some readjustment in prices in Europe is also something which will take place. So let us understand the market once the full guidelines play out.
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Vikas Singh38:23
Sir, my second question pertains to our capex plan in Odisha. The 6,300 per million ton for a greenfield plant seems to be pretty low. So actually this is at some of the brownfield plants probably expanding more than that. What differential thing we are doing here, is there a scope or risk of further enhancing this capex as we progress?
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Jayant Acharya38:53
First of all, from a capex point of view, if you look at our BPA, our Dolby plant expansion which we have just undertaken is actually specific investment is even lower than this. This is slightly higher because of being a green plant. The other reason is that we are doing this plant in a modular fashion. We already had announced the pellet plant and some enabling infrastructure before that. That is happening parallelly but even then, this 31,600 crores also includes some enabling infrastructure for phase 2 expansion. So when you look at a 10 million ton expansion including the next phase, our capex cost will be further competitive compared to others. I think over time, that's the project expertise which JSW has developed and we are able to do specific investment costs lower over time and faster.
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Vikas Singh40:02
So there's no risk of overrunning in this capex as of now?
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Jayant Acharya40:05
No, we don't see.
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Vikas Singh40:10
Thank you sir. Thank you.
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Operator40:12
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Parth Jhona from Anandrati. Please go ahead.
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Parth Jhona40:22
Thank you for the opportunity. So my first question is pertaining to the capex. You have marked almost 100,000 crores over the next four to five years coupled with this 80,000 kind of a net debt, and as mentioned earlier on the call, you expect the capex to be high in the first couple of years. Do you think that this will load your balance sheet despite receiving the money from BPSL?
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Jayant Acharya40:52
No, we do not think it'll load our balance sheet. From a ratio point of view, we will remain financially prudent while we invest. We are quite well placed to be able to manage these expansions while we keep our ratios in control. You will see the additional volume from BF3, the full ramp-up of JVML, the new capacities from Dolby which will come in in phase 3. All these will generate additional cash flows which will contribute to the internal accruals which we'll be able to spend for the capex. So from that perspective we are fine. We don't see any challenge.
Just to add, the BPSL transaction once it's concluded would also add significant new cash which you have to take into account while plotting the numbers.
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Parth Jhona41:53
Yeah, we do agree that receiving BPSL would definitely help in the next couple of quarters, but then Dolby is still down the line and plus we have taken up additional 5 million ton capex. Plus you mentioned a couple of minutes back that in the first two years the capex would be much higher. So assuming it's about 25,000 to 30,000 odd crores, which will basically net off against what you receive from BPSL in the immediate term, do you think that this 80,000 crore of net debt can go to say one lakh, or is there any threshold leverage what you expect?
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Jayant Acharya42:31
No. We are right now below 3 net to EBITDA. We reported 2.91. If you look at 100,000 crore on its totality over 4 to 5 years, we are talking about 20,000 to 25,000 crore in certain years. It can go up, certain years it'll come down, which is not very different from the capex we have been historically doing. You add BPSL cash in the mix and you will realize that perhaps it's not as big a problem as it looks like.
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Parth Jhona43:04
All right. Thanks for the clarity, sir. Yes, my next question is again on Europe.
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Operator43:08
Sorry, we request you to please rejoin the queue if you have any further questions.
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Parth Jhona43:13
That's just the first question. Uh, considering you know you export 11% of volumes and about 1.2 to 1.3 million tons goes to Europe. Considering CBAM, I know there are a lot of noise around CBAM, but have you given a thought internally? Based on your emission norms, what is the impact on a per-ton basis? Is there a number which you have finalized?
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Jayant Acharya43:40
No. From a standpoint of exports, I would request you not to take any numbers right now because one is that the domestic demand is going up. If I were to look at incrementally, this year we are expected to add about 11 million tons in India. We'll close at about 163 million tons of demand. Next year, even at a growth of roughly 8%, we'll be at 176 million tons. This incremental demand being created in India, we feel that this will provide ample opportunity for us to use our capacities within the country. The need for exports will gradually also reduce. Therefore, the export moderation will happen in general and we will take a call on which area to reduce. With respect to your question on CBAM calculation, those are in process. I wouldn't like to give you any number right now because we haven't really finalized anything at this stage.
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Parth Jhona44:50
But as per the latest circular, it is just purely based on Scope 1, right? Or even because they are based on direct emissions, is that understanding correct?
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Jayant Acharya45:02
Yes. But there are different technologies, different numbers, asset to asset there is a difference. So my commission level in Vijayagar will be different from Dolby level. That's why I'm saying there are different moving parts. So let us wait for some more clarity once we do it.
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Parth Jhona45:18
Sounds good. Thank you so much for the opportunity. Thank you and best of luck.
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Operator45:25
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Satyajit from Ambit Capital. Please go ahead.
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Satyajit45:32
Hi, thank you. Just one more question on CBAM. There has been a two-year transition period. So just wanted to confirm, because one other company mentioned this, that none of the Indian companies have got their emissions verified as of now. There has been no verifier identified. Have you got emissions verified so far? And is there still ambiguity whether the verified emissions will be for a company group level or will they allow plant-specific emissions? Just a clarity on this.
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Jayant Acharya46:14
No, we are in the process of getting the verifications done. The CBAM will be asset-wise. So basically it will be location plant-wise, not for the company as one.
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Satyajit46:30
Okay. And how long will this verification process, when do you expect this to get done?
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Jayant Acharya46:33
It will gradually happen. Any exports which happen today, in the year 2026, you would have to give them a certificate after the end of the year. The importer will have to look at it and take a certificate from a verified source which we will be able to provide to them. And based on that, the importers on record will have to pay the CBAM differential at that point of time. So that will happen sometime in the beginning of 2027 for the year 2026.
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Satyajit47:08
Fair enough. And secondly on the capex, just on the Dolby, first of all, can you remind us how much you've spent so far? I think initial expectation for this was about 19,000 to 20,000 crores. Just wanted to see what have you spent so far, how much is left. And when you look at Odisha, in the configuration, how much captive are you looking at for power sourcing, because you're also looking at increasing renewable penetration, WHRS, and captive configuration for the new 5 million tons?
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Jayant Acharya47:44
I would not be able to give you exact figures of how much we have spent right now, but we are on track for our expenditure. The total cost of the project, including some additional capex which we had declared during the last board meetings, I think is close to 20,800 to 20,900 crores. We are on track for that expansion. With respect to Odisha and the power question, we would be putting up capacity for power which we would require. In addition to that, we would be buying something from the grid. So it's a combination which we would be doing, but some major part will be from our own captive and some will be drawn from the grid and other sources.
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Satyajit48:37
Decide how much, how many megawatt of capacity will you be setting up for this 5 million tons on your own. 31,600 includes how much captive power plant?
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Jayant Acharya48:47
Yeah, we have that detail, we can give it to you.
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Operator48:52
It's about 340 to 50 megawatt, but we'll give it to you.
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Satyajit48:58
Thank you.
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Operator48:58
Our next question is from the line of Shah from Invesco. Please go ahead.
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Shah49:05
Yeah, hi. Thanks for the opportunity, sir. Three questions. First is overall on capital allocation, where does the 51% stake in JSW Realty and with respect to Saffron Resources, it does indicate there's a land bank. Where do these variables fit in the overall scheme of things? That's one. Second question is on safeguards. How do you see the risk of circumvention and potentially higher volumes from Japan and Korea limiting our ability to raise prices? If you could highlight some numbers on PARM that would be great. And third question is we have two blocks, correct me if I'm wrong, AJ and Surja in Maharashtra. What are our plans over here and is there any probability of MSNC granting any leases to any company on linkage basis or something which can potentially reduce the cost curve for any company? Those are three questions.
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Jayant Acharya50:15
So I'll take the first question and thanks for asking. Our capital allocation principles remain intact. Capital goes to what is core to us, which is steelmaking. Saffron land acquisition is earmarked for a potential steel facility in future and there will be no other use for that. On the reality deal, we have not spelled out the details, but what we require is essentially office space as we are expanding as a company, and what we will get out of this is a very lucrative return in terms of cost invested in office space. This is our whole intention of being in that deal and there is nothing more to that.
The second question was on safeguard. The effectiveness of safeguards, risk on circumvention imports probably from Japan and Korea restricting our ability to increase prices. Yeah. No, the safeguard is certainly, even if you look at Japan and Korea, 12% safeguard is certainly very helpful. We expect that to limit unfair trade to a large extent. It still allows scope to increase the price, and along with depreciation of the currency, I think it leaves room for some price improvement during February and March. So that's something which we will see. Also keep in mind that prices in India fell actually more, they came to a discount versus imports, so that's something which anyway has to come back to a sensible level.
From the iron ore point of view, I'll request Arun to respond on Maharashtra and Surja.
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Arun52:08
We have a concession available with us which we are exploring all the ways to how do we make it operationalized in the coming years. So the work is on for that.
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Shah52:21
And the last question, sir, any probability of state government granting out leases on linkage basis, anything of that sort?
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Arun52:31
Where? In Maharashtra?
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Shah52:33
In Maharashtra.
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Arun52:35
No, nothing to our knowledge as of now.
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Shah52:39
Sure, this is helpful. Thank you so much.
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Operator52:44
Thank you. Our next question comes on the line of Rashid Chopra from Citigroup. Please go ahead.
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Rashid Chopra52:51
Thank you. You already addressed some of the pricing question, but effectively in this quarter what was the realization change that you witnessed without the mix impact?
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Jayant Acharya53:06
There was a drop in realization in this quarter. If you were to look at the market price, for example if I take an example of a hot rolled coil, the market dropped quarter on quarter by about 2,200 rupees per ton. We as a blend were able to reduce the impact of this through value-added mix, which was the ever highest as I mentioned. So our drop was close to 1,400 odd rupees per ton on the overall mix of JSW.
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Rashid Chopra53:41
Understood. And as of now the increase that you mentioned in December and January is about 3,500 with further scope for upside?
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Jayant Acharya53:51
Yeah. 1,500 odd I think in December and about 2,000 odd in January.
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Rashid Chopra53:56
Got it. And on the cost side, like you already paid the iron ore as well as the cooking cost, but on a blended basis how did the cost move sequentially, from quarter 2 to quarter 3?
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Arun54:09
Quarter 2 to quarter 3, as we said, there was an impact of cooking coal. There was some related cost related to the shutdown of BF3, which came in, and there were some shutdowns in Salem which came in. So from a cost perspective we had an impact of close to 500 to 600 rupees per ton.
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Rashid Chopra54:37
And what were the captive iron ore proportion last quarter?
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Jayant Acharya54:42
Last quarter, 33%.
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Rashid Chopra54:48
Okay. Thank you.
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Operator54:52
Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Ashish Jain from Macquarie India. Please go ahead.
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Ashish Jain55:00
Hi sir, good evening. So my first question is on the Odisha expansion. Given the location, are we planning to do, from a technology-wise or otherwise, to be export compliant and low carbon? Or does the standard mill we set up focus on the India market?
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Jayant Acharya55:21
The location is very conducive for exports primarily because we are on the port. We would be looking at the product mix which would be tailored to look at some of the export requirements as well. From a renewable energy or gas utilization point of view to reduce the carbon emissions, those discussions are ongoing. We're trying to see if we are able to get in some gas and produce using the best available technologies, which will be used including in the blast furnace.
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Arun55:58
Yeah. Whatever the best available technologies which are available will be used including the blast furnace. Today the technologies in blast furnaces have also got very advanced in terms of oxygen injection or coke and gas usage, or the other one which we have just used, dehumidification. These are essentially reducing your carbon footprint. We are going to be using all available technologies even in the blast furnace to reduce the normal level which a blast furnace has.
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Ashish Jain56:35
Right. And sir, also, given Dolby, location-wise it's much more conducive to export to the west. The latest line we are setting up, will it have materially lower carbon emission from a technology point of view? And does it make it easier for us once Dolby ramps up to access some of these European export markets?
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Arun57:07
Talking about any new addition coming up with the latest technologies in the blast furnace production, definitely the carbon emission in the new production line will be slightly better than the existing ones. Phase 3 which is being set up at Bhim will also have a blast furnace with all the best available technology as was being explained for Odisha. So overall the blast furnace will have less emissions in terms of gases. And then this is CSP, so overall energy spend for production will be quite low.
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Jayant Acharya57:52
So our asset at Dolby, emissions are lower than at other locations. That is one. Second thing, when you're looking at supplies to Europe or looking at low emission supplies, we have already communicated to you that we are looking at an asset for green steel or low emission steel through the electric arc furnace, natural gas, renewable energy route at Salav, which will take care of the requirement for anybody who has low emission carbon requirement.
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Ashish Jain58:24
Okay. Thank you so much.
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Operator58:28
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kanan Ma from BNP Paribas Mutual Fund. Please go ahead.
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Kanan Ma58:37
Thank you sir for the opportunity. One more follow-up on the CBAM. Basically the way you said, our emission will get certified till end of FY27 or so. So in the meanwhile, would we be willing to do the exports assuming the emissions at our end or give a guarantee to the buyer to compensate for the impact? How would it transpire during the period when the emissions are not certified basically?
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Jayant Acharya59:09
No, one thing we know is that CBAM impact is overall for everyone, a similar impact. So prices in Europe will go up to that extent of the CBAM impact anyway. While we are still assessing what will be the real impact of CBAM, while the policies are still being understood by everyone, by the importers as well as exporters, eventually Europe will remain a market for people despite having CBAM, because overall cost in Europe will go up. This is where we look at it. We are waiting for this entire policy coming out and being understood, and thereafter we will take a call on that.
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Kanan Ma59:51
Okay. Second question was regarding the Odisha plant. Have we also finalized the downstream plan for the product or would we be announcing that separately beyond this capex of 31,600 crores?
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Jayant Acharya1:00:06
As of now, this is up to the hot strip mill. We are not yet announced any downstream plan at Odisha. Currently what we have announced is the downstream plant in the north of India, which I mentioned about tin plate and galvanized and galvannealed capabilities for our color-coated lines. We will look at the Odisha downstream at a later stage.
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Kanan Ma1:00:35
Sure sir. Just one last question if I can include. We also had a plan for a couple of EAFs. So is that getting shifted with the announcement of this plan?
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Jayant Acharya1:00:48
The Karapa project, which basically is an electric arc furnace project, we just announced last quarter, has capacity to expand as well if we require. But keep in mind that electric arc furnaces in India don't really have scrap. So electric arc furnaces depend on scrap or on high-grade DRI, which basically relies on imported iron ore. So you effectively have to do some mix which is viable from an India standpoint. But what we are doing at Salav is again going to be electric arc furnace based production. And it's 1 million ton, and we already have electric arc furnaces currently operating at various locations.
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Kanan Ma1:01:36
Right sir, understood. Thank you.
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Operator1:01:40
Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Sumangal Nath from Kotak Securities. Please go ahead.
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Sumangal Nath1:01:48
Yeah, thanks for the follow-up. I wanted your outlook on iron ore. This year, if you see, imports have increased and we've also imported. Wanted to know, is it strategic or is it some quality issue? Also when we look at 50% being met through captive, for the remaining 50% over the next 5-6 years, are we seeing domestic availability or might there be some shortages which will have to be then imported?
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Jayant Acharya1:02:18
So iron ore import is largely because of grade availability in India is very poor. It is going down every year. That's why we had gone for a higher grade of imports of iron ore. So it is more of a combination requirement in the production usage. At the same time, availability of iron ore in different geographies is different. We have to consider that while we take our buying decision. So it may not remain uniform every year, but whenever we see this opportunity coming up, we would like to shift our sourcing base accordingly.
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Arun1:02:54
It's basically for blending, especially for larger blast furnaces which require some improved grades. And we'll continue to look at it and take the call.
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Sumangal Nath1:03:06
Mr. Acharya, what is our medium-term view? Is there, for the remaining 50% which is market for us over the next five years, will we have enough domestic iron ore? Do you see a domestic shortage increasing over years?
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Jayant Acharya1:03:21
No, I don't think so. The government is also having a lot of policy interventions coming in and they're ensuring that the iron ore availability is not compromised in line with the national policy which they are targeting. So iron ore availability will be maintained with all the initiatives the government is taking and the way the private miners are also trying to increase their capacity and production. New mines will also come up for auction apart from unlocking mines which have been held up due to various reasons. So we do not envisage a shortage in India as we go along, but we may have to put facilities for beneficiation or value addition into pellets as the case may be. But yes, we have ample resources in India. So from an availability point of view, we don't see a concern.
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Sumangal Nath1:04:12
Thank you and all the best.
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Operator1:04:18
We have no further questions, ladies and gentlemen. I would now like to hand over to the management for closing comments. Over to you, sir.
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Jayant Acharya1:04:26
So thank you very much for the time. Just to reiterate, we look forward to a good quarter 4, stronger volumes based on a seasonally strong quarter. Margins are likely to be better with prices recovering and offsetting some of the raw material price. I think from the next year's perspective, the BF3 will be up and running from April onwards and we'll be well positioned to meet the requirements in India from next year onwards. Our capacity in India will be close to 36 million ton after the BF3 expansion is finished. Thank you and all the best.
Thank you everyone. Please reach out to us if you have any further questions. Bye-bye.
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Operator1:05:21
Thank you. On behalf of JSW Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you all for joining us. You may now disconnect your lines.