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Challa Setty
Chairman, State Bank of India

SBI will acquire 1% mkt share every year to become 25% of India’s GDP, says chairman CS Setty

📅 Dec 17, 2025 moneycontrol 53 MIN 10603 VIEWS 71 SEGMENTS · 2 SPEAKERS
SBI wants to be 25% of India's GDP, we don't just want to defend market share, says SBI Chairman, CS Setty speaking exclusively to Moneycontrol  #sbi #statebankofindia #indiagdp #indiagrowth Moneycontrol is India’s leading financial portal, offering market news, expert analysis, and powerful tools. A part of Network18, moneycontrol.com is India’s most trusted destination for financial and business news. #live #livenews #latestnews #topnews #moneycontrol #moneycontrollive #businessnews #businessnewslive #stockmarket #stockmarket #sharemarketnews #stockmarketliveupdates Subscribe: https://bi...

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  1. 0:06How does that feel for you, sir?
  2. 3:58Was it for the masses, the affluent, or to target HNIs?
  3. 10:50At some point, would you want to club SBI Payments with YONO, since they are somewhat complementary?
  4. 21:25Can you share some of your game plan for acquiring market share?
  5. 24:59If you were to position yourself as an investor in SBI, what does that really signal about the bank?
  6. 27:53That changes to some extent, would it?
  7. 33:22That probably is the reason why RBI is projecting 2% inflation, which is an aspirational inflation, right?
  8. 35:02Other macros are nicely positioning themselves, right?
  9. 37:00Beyond the end of this fiscal, should we also anticipate one more subsidiary listing?
  10. 40:48And do you believe that you will be able to replicate your playbook on scale even in this particular segment?
  11. 43:01How are you tackling both these issues?
  12. 51:33What was the last one you saw, sir?
Interviewer 0:06 ↗
We have with us today Mr. CS Setty, Chairman, State Bank of India. Thank you so much, sir, for taking time out to talk to Moneycontrol amidst your busy schedule right before the New Year. Before we get started, this is one of the few times when, as a journalist, I'm finding it difficult to see where to start, because it's been an extremely eventful year for you at SBI. Yesterday you had the massive YONO 2.0 launch — congratulations for that. How does it feel that after multiple tests and iterations, you've brought YONO 2.0 live? How does that feel for you, sir?
Challa Setty 0:57 ↗
Thank you for giving this opportunity. The YONO launch, while we popularly called it 2.0, is a completely reimagined and redeveloped digital asset. We are very proud that months of effort, with people putting their heart into it, could become a reality. I must compliment my teams. As I mentioned at the launch, this is not a simple mobile application. We have completely reinvented the underlying technology and built it for scale. At least 50% of our customer base eventually has to move to this mobile application or net banking. This is our ambition.
Interviewer 2:02 ↗
And the democratizing of banking services accessibility, which SBI is known for — was that the bedrock on which YONO was built?
Challa Setty 2:09 ↗
Yes, it is. The multilingual capability makes it more accessible. There is natural traction for this app even among non-SBI customers. But the large population we want to reach requires handholding. We are putting floor managers across almost 10,000 branches — they will manage floor operations in heavy footfall branches and help people onboard and use the app as a self-service channel, explaining the most used features. The ambition is doubling the registered user base from 10 crores to 20 crores, and more importantly, making them actually use the services so they become digitally savvy. The core of this app is security, and we are also giving features where individual customers can choose their own security features.
Interviewer 3:58 ↗
A private sector banker and YONO user told me this app can challenge private sector mobile products because of the forex conversion feature — when you travel abroad, it recognizes the pin code and converts immediately, and when you come back to India, it switches back to Indian currency. What was the thought process behind this? Was it for the masses, the affluent, or to target HNIs?
Challa Setty 4:49 ↗
It's for everyone. The design features are very intuitive, reflecting the diversity in our customer base — from almost 150 million financial inclusion customers to ultra high net worth individuals. We will be building many more features; I think we have 100 more journeys to build. This is also an extension of what we built digitally to expand to all other processes within the bank — what I call simplification. Simplification will be the heart of our processes, focusing on serving both the financial inclusion customer and the wealth and premier banking segments.
Interviewer 6:14 ↗
Learning from YONO, are wealth and premier banking your next pockets of interest? Would you collaborate with a foreign player, like how you built SBI Cards and SBI Life initially?
Challa Setty 6:27 ↗
Wealth is a natural extension of what we are doing. I don't think subsidiarization in wealth works for our customer base. Customers want good quality banking services coupled with investment products, and they can be better served within the bank. This is not private banking in the conventional sense. We have customers with significant relationship value, and we want to keep them happy with excellent service and investment options based on their risk appetite. Our wealth AUM is predominantly deposit-based at around 4 trillion. Our aspiration is to grow it to a 15 trillion book contributed by wealth and premier banking teams, with at least 4 trillion from investments. We aim to achieve this by 2030.
Interviewer 8:24 ↗
If you were to subsidiarize it the way it's normally done, you would be the largest wealth outfit by a big mile.
Challa Setty 8:35 ↗
We would be. But it fits well with our natural business model — combining the trust of SBI with the agility of our internal and market resources to serve customers.
Interviewer 8:55 ↗
Before I move forward, you made an intriguing statement yesterday that you'll come back to market on the listing of YONO in a couple of months. Can you give us some background for that and take it forward for our viewers?
Challa Setty 9:16 ↗
First, I want to clarify — this heading is Moneycontrol's, not mine. When people asked about monetization, I said let us talk about it later. Let us first enjoy the transformation and new experience for customers. But to set the record straight: the value of YONO, if compared with a fintech, is capable of creating value to SBI multifold — potentially 30 billion, 40 billion, though those numbers varied. But I believe YONO and SBI are mutually reinforcing assets; it is very difficult to see them separately. We have built elements in new journeys and technology features that are replicable across the banking industry. If some can be monetized, we will definitely do that. But as a property, YONO is inseparable from SBI.
Interviewer 10:50 ↗
At some point, would you want to club SBI Payments with YONO, since they are somewhat complementary?
Challa Setty 10:56 ↗
There are three important areas for any bank beyond wholesale banking. First, are we strong in retail? We are probably the dominant player. Second, wealth and premier banking — we are building the blocks with investments in technology and people. Third is transaction banking. While we built payment applications inside and outside the bank, we did not bring the required convergence. We are now trying to bring all payment systems under one umbrella. SBI Payments as a subsidiary will continue outside the bank, but within, we have half a dozen payment assets — cash management, Fastag, e-payment solutions, and our own payment gateway. We are the only bank with our own payment gateway. From first April, one single unit will manage all payments. These three areas — retail, wealth management, and transaction banking — will be our renewed focus to create other income.
Interviewer 13:56 ↗
That's massive and can be a challenger for the industry. You've always said, Mr. Setty, that whatever you build, you build for scale. At 100 lakh crore in business, does scale at times concern you? With scale come risks and monitoring challenges. Each of your verticals is equivalent to a private bank. Has it ever given you a sleepless night?
Challa Setty 14:45 ↗
Scale has never been a problem. Our strength is handling scale with efficiency. Scale brings complexity, which requires qualified manpower. I proudly claim we have the largest and best risk and compliance professionals across the bank, with a complete vertical down to the regional office level. Scale is our advantage. People ask about our cost-to-income ratio, but at scale you cannot compromise on cost — you must invest in the right technology, tools, and people. We are bringing efficiencies through digitalization. We doubled in six to seven years and will probably double again — we are talking about 200 lakh crore by 2032. But this is a function of the Indian economy. Our assets of 780 billion dollars are almost 20% of GDP. If India becomes an 8 trillion economy, we would like to be at least 2 trillion — 25% of GDP. The important thing is how you handle complexity. Products, processes, technology can all be replicated, but our strength is people. We keep investing in people, reflected in our attrition rate of less than 0.5%. People make the difference.
Interviewer 18:26 ↗
At this size, you're possibly around the 40th largest bank globally. India does not have its footing among the top 10 global banks. Is that something highlighted internally as a point where you want to work harder?
Challa Setty 19:06 ↗
The size of a bank is a function of the economy. JP Morgan is 13% of the US economy. Despite being 20% of India's GDP, we are not in global rankings because India needs that scale. India's growth story is SBI's growth story. Our aspiration is to grow from 20% to 25% of GDP. We have to grow faster than GDP — if GDP is 8.2%, we grow at 12%. We are dominant in many micro markets with 40-50% market share in some districts. But if you only defend, you stay at 20%. Our objective is to acquire market share everywhere. The internal directive is simple: in each district, add 1% market share every year. Acquiring share from dominant positions will make us a quarter of the Indian economy.
Interviewer 21:25 ↗
That's a tall ask. Can you share some of your game plan for acquiring market share?
Challa Setty 21:32 ↗
As the economy grows, the market grows. If you don't acquire in the incremental market, someone takes share from you. We cannot be a sitting duck. We are reimagining through YONO to reach people not banking with SBI. We have done extensive micro-market studies, and while we have a broader bank-level strategy, micro strategies are designed by regional managers who understand where they lack and how to gain share. We leave it to local leadership, and we have seen excellent results.
Interviewer 23:01 ↗
What are your three top-of-the-mind highlights for 2025? Has the year panned out the way you thought, or has it bettered your expectations?
Challa Setty 23:21 ↗
It's better than expectations, both from an economic perspective and within the bank. The Indian economy has consistently outperformed on growth and inflation. Despite global uncertainties, trade disruptions, and tensions, India stands out as one of the most resilient large economies. SBI has done very well in business levels and protecting margins. We completed a successful capital raise program, each time bettering our previous performance on both equity and debt sides.
Interviewer 24:59 ↗
And this time you were hugely oversubscribed — almost four and a half times. If you were to position yourself as an investor in SBI, what does that really signal about the bank?
Challa Setty 25:15 ↗
An investor looks not only at past performance but at future potential. They are investing in our future. We have consistently engaged with the investor community with an open, transparent, and forward-looking communication strategy. We had not been in the market for seven or eight years, so there was pent-up demand. But our consistent performance and forward-looking narrative have been the key drivers.
Interviewer 26:09 ↗
You also had locked-in capital in Yes Bank getting released.
Challa Setty 26:15 ↗
That is another highlight. It's not only about a profitable exit from a very difficult entry, but more importantly, we were able to conclude one of the most difficult and different restructuring plans ever attempted in the banking industry. SBI played a very significant role along with other partner banks, with the support of the regulator and the Government of India. It is an example of how collaboration and understanding between various entities can save, restructure, and make available a very big strategic play.
Interviewer 26:59 ↗
Have you set a textbook precedent now for the banking system — that each time, you don't have to run to a PSU bank to handhold or acquire?
It is definitely a good example. I think we also have a lot of learnings probably recorded somewhere, either by regulator. Can you share one or two of them, sir?
Challa Setty 27:26 ↗
As you mentioned, you don't have to have a common playbook of merger, which is a very important thing. The merger always creates, especially when two disparate entities are sought to be merged, culturally and technologically it always leads to friction. So nobody could imagine that you can have a different playbook and bring that and make it successful. So I think it's a great learning.
Interviewer 27:53 ↗
How would you call out the entry of SMBC into the Indian banking space, or for that matter Emirates is looking at taking a majority stake in RBL Bank? There is an advent of new foreign banks coming into play. They are saying that now they will operate as a wholly subsidiary in India, not wholly owned. How do you see the landscape changing, sir? And from a competitive perspective, where do you see them? Because till now you and SMBC were friends. You had to close in on a transaction. Now you're not any longer friends. That changes to some extent, would it?
Challa Setty 28:27 ↗
It's not about friends or not being friends. I think what we need in the Indian banking industry is very good, strong strategic players. And if capital is a constraint and if somebody is coming with the capital, I think it's a good move. I believe that it will obviously strengthen these banks to do better than what they're currently doing. But another important element is that whoever has come now, the names which you mentioned, they're all very respectable names. In the sense, in their jurisdiction they are fairly large banks with deep pockets and willingness to invest in India. They're not short-term players. So obviously I think it will bring a new energy into the banking sector and those private players can play a significant role. As far as competition, I think competition has never been a concern for State Bank of India because we have a very loyal customer base and people have great amount of trust in our processes, in terms of our services. They may be sometimes unhappy that they're not getting what they are getting elsewhere, but this unhappiness also comes from the fact that they feel their own bank, why my bank is not doing this service. So this kind of loyalty and attachment is the one which drives us. And also as I mentioned repeatedly, the quality workforce what we have, I think can face any competition.
Interviewer 29:57 ↗
It's an interesting perspective that you've given. Going forward, looking into 2026, do you believe that some of the headwinds that we started seeing for the banking sector, whether it is the GST rate cut or a pick up in credit growth, do you see them continuing in 2026? And what is your wish list for 2026?
Challa Setty 30:18 ↗
So I think the stage is set now. I hope that the consumption demand sustains. Obviously, both on the fiscal side, whether it is a tax cut for certain segments of people, and GST reforms, rationalization, and on the regulatory side, both in terms of simplifying or removing the overhangs which have been there for many years. In fact, the oldest regulation that was repealed dates back to pre-independence and it was about financing of LCs. There were quite a few of them. Apart from the whole regulations being simplified and rationalized, many things what we have been seeking from RBI have been taken care of. The willingness of RBI to come out with solutions whenever they feel that liquidity is constrained, and the assurance by the governor himself that durable liquidity will be ensured, is a great comfort for the banking industry and it also is helping for monetary transmission. So I think the combination of regulatory and the fiscal measures, in my view, have already set the stage. Hope that this consumption demand will be sustained and which will again propel capital expenditure and better utilization of working capital limits by corporates. So I think there are quite a few things which I'm hopeful that 2026 will be a good year.
Interviewer 32:00 ↗
Excellent. Do banks in general and SBI in particular have the bandwidth to stomach another rate cut? Because we think, most economists are predicting that the landing or the terminal repo rate would be in the ballpark of 5%. We have another 25 basis point cut to go through. What is your view on that, sir?
Challa Setty 32:20 ↗
So our house view is also, while we believe that 5.25% is a good rate to be in, but if the wider expectation of terminal rate at 5%, there could be potentially another rate cut. We hope not, but I think 5% is a good policy rate to be in, and especially when growth is decent. So if growth concerns are not there, I think this kind of repo rate, either 5% or 5.25%, should be adequate. And we have a very good inflation trajectory, one of the best trajectories which we can visualize. So the combination of modest inflation and a decent growth rate, hopefully we'll see that the inflation also somewhere brings a reason to think whether we're doing the right thing, is it too low? It doesn't support a growth narrative. Most of the modest inflation is also because of food inflation. We'll have to see how it plays out.
Interviewer 33:22 ↗
That probably is the reason why RBI is projecting 2% inflation, which is an aspirational inflation, right? Targeted 2 to 4% is what RBI has always been aspiring to.

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Setty, C. (2025, December 17). SBI will acquire 1% mkt share every year to become 25% of India’s GDP, says chairman CS Setty [Interview transcript]. moneycontrol. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1039064/

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Challa Setty. "SBI will acquire 1% mkt share every year to become 25% of India’s GDP, says chairman CS Setty." moneycontrol, 17 Dec. 2025. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1039064/.

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  author       = {Challa Setty},
  title        = {SBI will acquire 1\% mkt share every year to become 25\% of India’s GDP, says chairman CS Setty},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, moneycontrol. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2025},
  month        = {dec},
  url          = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1039064/},
  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
}