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Jeffrey Edison, chairman and CEO of Phillips Edison & Company, discussed the company's performance and outlook during the second quarter 2026 earnings call on July 24, 2026. He stated that the company is "well positioned to deliver what we view as compelling combination for our investors, more alpha with less beta" as it looks toward the second half of 2026 and into 2027. Edison noted that the company's centers generated 2% year-over-year traffic growth in June and 2% traffic growth year to date, adding that "while consumers are increasingly seeking value, they're continuing to make frequent trips to necessity-based destinations." He reported that the company had already acquired about $200 million in properties through the first quarter and had a "really strong backlog," with a target of $400 to $500 million in acquisitions for the year. In a June 2026 interview at Nareit's REITweek conference, Edison described retailer sentiment as "surprisingly positive" despite economic uncertainty, saying that "almost all the retailers looking at growth opportunities" and that the lack of new development has been "a great advantage for us." He outlined multiple capital sources for the company, including a strong balance sheet, joint ventures, a disposition strategy targeting $100 to $200 million in sales, and free cash flow that he said could fund about $300 million in incremental property purchases without accessing equity markets. Edison also noted that the company is seeing "30% more opportunities than we did last year" in the everyday retail space and that it has "already moved occupancy 450 basis points" in that area.

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Transcript (31 segments)
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Operator0:00
Good day and welcome to Phillips Edison and Company's second quarter 2025 earnings call. Please note that this call is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Kimberly Green, head of investor relations. Kimberly, you may begin.
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Kimberly Green0:20
Thank you, operator. I'm joined on this call by our chairman and chief executive officer Jeff Edison, president Bob Meyers, and Chief Financial Officer John Caulfield. Once we conclude our prepared remarks, we will open the call to Q&A. After today's call, an archive version will be published on our website. As a reminder, today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements about the company's view of future business and financial performance, including forward earnings guidance and future market conditions. These are based on management's current beliefs and expectations and are subject to various risks and uncertainties as described in our SEC filings, specifically in our most recent Form 10-K and 10-Q. Our discussion today will reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. Information regarding our use of these measures and reconciliations to our GAAP results are available in our earnings press release and supplemental information packet, which have been posted on our website. Please note that we have also posted a presentation with additional information. Our caution on forward-looking statements also applies to these materials. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Jeff Edison, our chief executive officer.
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Jeffrey Edison1:35
Thank you Kim and thank you everyone for joining us today. The PECO team is pleased to deliver another quarter of solid growth. Same center NOI increased 4.2% and core FFO per share increased 8.5%. Given the continued strength of our business, we are pleased to increase our full year 2025 earnings guidance for same center NOI, core FFO per share, and NAREIT FFO per share. I'd like to thank our PECO associates for their hard work in maintaining our unique competitive advantages and driving value at the property level. We believe PECO's grocery-anchored strategy and necessity-based focus have helped to create a resilient portfolio that also delivers steady growth. We are driving strong rent spreads, increasing occupancy, and generating dependable high quality cash flows. This consistency in performance and growth is attributable to several factors. First and foremost, it takes an experienced and locally smart team to bring the best retailers to our centers. Our neighbors create positive community experiences built around our grocers. Second, it takes decades to build the strong grocer and national neighbor relationships that PECO enjoys. These relationships give us an advantage in working together to optimize our properties and are critical to our acquisition strategy. Third, it requires a portfolio focused on right-sized neighborhood centers located in suburban trade areas with compelling demographic trends and continued macroeconomic tailwinds. Strong demand from national retailers continues to fill our pipeline of ground-up outparcel development and repositioning activity. Fourth, it takes a dedicated team to acquire and curate a high quality grocery-anchored portfolio that is expected to deliver 3% to 4% same center NOI growth year after year. And lastly, it requires a strong balance sheet with great liquidity to invest in the properties and the portfolio. Our long operating history and track record have built these strengths for PECO that give us both offensive and defensive advantages in the market. Because of these advantages, we believe PECO is able to deliver mid to high single-digit core FFO per share growth annually on a long-term basis. The market continues to focus on tariffs and U.S. economic stability. As it relates to PECO's grocers and neighbors, we feel very good about our portfolio. As a reminder, 70% of our ABR comes from necessity-based goods and services. This provides predictable, high quality cash flows and downside protection quarter after quarter. This also limits our exposure to discretionary goods, which are at risk of greater impact from tariffs. We estimate that approximately 85% of our neighbors, based on ABR, will experience limited impact from tariffs. Supporting that estimate is the strength of our neighbor retention and leasing spreads in the second quarter, which Bob will speak about in a moment. Our neighbors are watching the consumer closely. They continue to benefit from their location in the neighborhood where our top grocers drive strong foot traffic to our centers. We continue to see leasing demand for our existing spaces along with a healthy development and redevelopment pipeline. We are seeing strong demand from retailers who want to be located at PECO's grocery-anchored neighborhood shopping centers, especially from small shop retailers in categories like quick-service restaurants, health and beauty, medical retail, and personal services. These are the types of neighbors that perform well because they are part of people's everyday routines. And importantly, the PECO team continues to find smart accretive acquisitions that add long-term value to our portfolio. Our active acquisition activity is another differentiator in PECO's strategy. The PECO team is acquiring in the market through all cycles, carefully and deliberately acquiring centers that fit our grocery-anchored strategy and right-sized format while also delivering long-term growth potential. This has been part of our DNA for over 30 years. We're not just maintaining a high quality portfolio, we're building one. What sets PECO apart is that we know exactly what we're looking for and we have one of the best operating platforms to act quickly and execute. During the second quarter, we purchased $133 million of assets at PECO's total share. When you include assets acquired subsequent to quarter end, this brings our year-to-date gross acquisitions at PECO share to $287 million. Despite recent market volatility, we remain confident in our ability to acquire high quality centers at attractive returns. We are pleased to affirm our guidance range of $350 to $450 million in gross acquisitions this year. We continue to successfully find attractive acquisition opportunities below replacement costs with strong growth profiles that we believe will exceed our unlevered 9% IRR target. In summary, we are very pleased with our results this quarter and our ability to raise guidance for the remainder of the year. While it is still early to understand the full impact tariffs could have on PECO or our neighbors, we continue to see a resilient consumer and we believe our portfolio will outperform as retailer demand remains strong. Our confidence is driven by the stability of our high quality cash flows and the PECO team's ability to deliver solid growth and create value for our shareholders. Given our demonstrated track record through various cycles, we believe an investment in PECO provides shareholders with a favorable balance of defense and offense. In summary, we believe the quality of our cash flows reduces our beta and the strength of our growth increases our alpha. Less beta, more alpha. I will now turn the call over to Bob.
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Bob Meyers8:48
Thank you Jeff and thank you for joining us. As Jeff said, PECO's grocery-anchored focus and necessity-based neighbor mix create strong leasing momentum. That momentum is clear in our operating results again this quarter. Our long operating history has given us an informed measure of what drives quality and value at the shopping center level. We continue to believe same center results provide important measures of quality — spreads, occupancy, advantages of the market, and retention. This is most evident in our continued high occupancy, strong rent spreads, and high retention. In terms of leasing activity, we continue to capitalize on elevated renewal demand. The PECO team remains focused on maximizing opportunities to improve lease language at renewal and drive rents higher. In the second quarter, we delivered strong comparable renewal rent spreads of 19.1%. Our inline renewal rent spreads remained high at 20.7% in the quarter. Comparable new leasing rent spreads for the second quarter were 34.6% and our inline new rent spreads were 28.1% in the quarter. These spreads reflect the continued strength of the leasing and retention environment. We expect new and renewal spreads to continue to be strong throughout the balance of this year and into the foreseeable future. Leasing deals we executed during the second quarter, both new and renewal, achieved average annual rent bumps of 2.7%, another important contributor to our long-term growth. Portfolio occupancy remained high and ended the quarter at 97.4%. Anchor occupancy remained strong at 98.9%, a sequential increase of 50 basis points. During the quarter, PECO executed leases with Dollar Tree, Planet Fitness, Ace Hardware, and Southeast Pickleball. Inline occupancy ended the quarter at 94.8%, a sequential increase of 20 basis points. Small shop retailers added during the quarter included Cold Stone, Firehouse Subs, H&R Block, and Pacific Dental Services along with several other medtail neighbors and health and beauty retailers. Given our robust leasing pipeline, we expect inline occupancy to remain high throughout the year, which is very positive. As it relates to bad debt, in the second quarter we actively monitor the health of our neighbors. Bad debt in the quarter was up from a year ago, but in line on a year-to-date basis and well within our guidance range. We are not concerned about bad debt in the near term, particularly given the strong retailer demand. We continue to have a highly diversified mix with no meaningful rent concentration outside of our grocers. A key advantage of PECO's suburban locations is that our centers are situated in markets where our top grocers are profitable. PECO's three-mile trade area demographics include an average population of 68,000 people and an average median household income of $92,000. This is 15% above the U.S. median. These demographics are in line with the store demographics of Kroger and Publix, which are PECO's top two neighbors. Our markets also benefit from low unemployment rates, which are below the shopping center peer average. When looking at our very limited exposure to distressed retailers, the top 10 neighbors currently on our watch list represent approximately 2% of ABR. This is not by accident. It is a product of many years of being locally smart and intentionally cultivating our portfolio of grocery-anchored neighborhood centers located in lively trade areas with compelling demographic trends. Our neighbor retention remained high at 94% in the second quarter while growing rents at attractive rates. High retention results in better economics with less downtime and dramatically lower tenant improvement costs. Lower capital spend results in better returns. In the second quarter, we spent only 49 cents per square foot on tenant improvements for renewals. In addition to our strong rental growth and retention trends, we continue to expand our pipeline of ground-up outparcel development and repositioning projects. At the end of the second quarter, we had 21 projects under active construction with an average estimated yield between 9% and 12%. Year-to-date, nine projects have been stabilized. This activity delivered over 180,000 square feet of space to our neighbors with incremental NOI of approximately $3.7 million annually. The overall demand environment, the balance of PECO's defense and offense, the stability of our high quality cash flows, and the capabilities of the PECO team give us continued confidence in our ability to deliver strong growth in 2025 and in the long term. I will now turn the call over to John.
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John Caulfield13:57
Thank you Bob and good morning and good afternoon everyone. I'll start by highlighting second quarter results, then provide an update on the balance sheet, and finally speak to our increased 2025 guidance. Our second quarter results demonstrate what we built at PECO — a high-performing grocery-anchored and necessity-based portfolio that generates reliable, high quality cash flows. Second quarter NAREIT FFO increased to $86 million or 62 cents per diluted share, which reflects year-over-year per share growth of 8.8%. Second quarter core FFO increased to $88.2 million or 64 cents per diluted share, which reflects year-over-year per share growth of 8.5%. Our same center NOI growth in the quarter was 4.2%. Turning to the balance sheet, we have approximately $972 million of liquidity to support our acquisition plans and no meaningful maturities until 2027. Our net debt to trailing 12 months annualized adjusted EBITDA was 5.4 times as of June 30, 2025. This was 5.3 times on a last quarter annualized basis, which is also important to track in quarters with elevated acquisition volume. Our debt had a weighted average interest rate of 4.4% and a weighted average maturity of 5.7 years when including all extension options. At the end of the second quarter, 95% of PECO's total debt was fixed rate, which is in line with our target of 90%. During the quarter, PECO completed a bond offering of $350 million in aggregate principal of 5.25% senior notes due 2032. Proceeds from the offering were used to replenish the liquidity on our revolver, effectively match funding the $287 million in properties acquired to date at PECO share. As Jeff mentioned, the PECO team is not just maintaining a high quality portfolio, we're building one. We continue to have one of the best balance sheets in the sector, which has us well positioned for continued external growth. As Jeff mentioned, we are pleased to raise our 2025 guidance. Key drivers of our increased guidance include a continued strong operating environment, strong year-to-date acquisition activity, and our recent bond offering. We updated our guidance range for 2025 same center NOI growth to 3.1% to 3.6%. As we continue to enhance our neighbor mix, our actions in 2024 to improve merchandising and capture market-to-market rent growth with new neighbors are still a slight headwind to 2025 growth. As we have said previously, the PECO team is focused on the long term and our actions to replace neighbors are intentional. Our updated guidance for 2025 NAREIT FFO per share reflects a 6.3% increase over 2024 at the midpoint, and our updated guidance for 2025 core FFO per share represents a 6% increase over 2024 at the midpoint. We also affirmed our 2025 full year gross acquisition guidance. We believe our low leverage gives us the financial capacity to meet our growth targets. We also have diverse sources of capital that we can use to grow and match fund our investment activity. These sources include additional debt issuance, dispositions, and equity issuance. Match funding our capital sources with our investments is an important component of our investment strategy. Please note that our guidance for the remainder of 2025 does not assume any equity issuance. We continue to believe this portfolio and this team are well positioned to deliver mid to high single-digit core FFO per share growth on an annual basis. We also believe that our long-term AFO growth can be higher as more of our leasing mix is weighted towards renewal activity. We believe our targets for growth in core FFO and AFO will allow PECO to outperform the growth of our shopping center peers on a long-term basis. With that, we will open the line for questions.
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Operator18:22
Thank you. To ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. And if you'd like to withdraw your question, again, press star one. We do ask that you limit yourself to one question and a follow-up. Your first question comes from Caitlyn Burroughs with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
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Caitlyn Burroughs18:43
Hi. Good afternoon everyone. I guess we hear the transaction market is competitive, but Jeff, like you went through, you did have a strong first half. So, what do you think has allowed PECO to win these transactions and it looks like shadow-anchored centers have been a focus this year? What is driving that?
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Jeffrey Edison18:59
Yeah, thanks Caitlyn for the question. We had a really good first half. I think it kind of goes back to the fact that we buy properties one at a time, market by market. And if you step back and you look at it, that's how we were able to actually get this volume. It didn't come in a big chunk of buying something. It came in being active in a lot of markets and we've set up our acquisition team to be able to do that over a long period of time and it's hard. But we've been able to put that in place and I think that's how we've been able to get to those numbers. We're very focused on a very disciplined approach to our acquisitions. We feel really good about that. We're actually really excited about the opportunities because if you look at the anchors that we were able to expand our exposure to, like H-E-B and Walmart, Target a little to a small amount. These are really good retailers that we're sort of spreading out a little bit of our exposure to. So we feel great about the first half and excited about what we can do hopefully in the second half.
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Caitlyn Burroughs20:19
Got it. And then also in the prepared remarks you guys mentioned how the kind of turnover of some tenants that you focused on in 2024 was still a headwind to growth in 2025. I guess as you guys think about tenant retention going forward and the decisions you made in 2024, when do you think those headwinds will be done and is it to what extent will it be something that's kind of ongoing, that tenant replacement versus kind of done for the moment?
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Jeffrey Edison20:47
Bob, you want to talk a little bit about the leasing activity and how we're sort of looking at that as opportunity and as well as headwind.
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Bob Meyers20:58
Sure. Thanks for the question. I guess I'll start a little bit on what I would call the junior anchor side. So when our occupancy dropped a little bit in the first quarter on the anchor side, there was just noise there from Joann, Big Lots, Party City, and some of those neighbors that we knew wasn't a surprise to us. We've actually been able to backfill about 70% of those currently. So specifically to answer your question, we only have probably 15 spaces over 10,000 feet that are vacant in our portfolio. So a lot of the backfilling and recapturing of some of those specific neighbors, as an example, the rent will come online in 2026, and it'll probably be the second half of 2026 and maybe some will dribble into 2027. The good news is the leasing demand continues to remain very strong for those junior boxes and on the inline. And we continue to just see from the retailers that they're hungry for sites to open in 2026, 2027, and 2028. And again, we just don't see any new supply coming on. So we're in a very good spot. And you see that the retailers are wanting to follow the number one, number two grocer because you can see it in our spreads with 35% new leasing spreads, 19% renewal spreads, and 94% retention is very, very strong. So we're encouraged by the activity. We don't see anything slowing down and we feel real good about selectively being locally smart in merchandising around those opportunities.
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Caitlyn Burroughs22:31
Thank you.
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Operator22:34
Your next question comes from the line of Samir Khanal with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
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Samir Khanal22:41
Thank you. Good afternoon everyone. I guess Jeff or John, can you talk about the deceleration in same store growth that you're expecting in the second half based on the guidance, you know, sort of the puts and takes to get to the sort of 2.7% on average, after having close to 4% in the first half. Thanks.
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Jeffrey Edison23:03
Samir, I thought you were going to focus on how great it is that we had all that great growth in the first half. John, do you want to cover the sort of what we're looking at for the second half on same center growth?
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John Caulfield23:17
Certainly. Thanks for the question. Definitely one that I was expecting. So first, for this reason we don't provide quarterly guidance. As we look at our earnings on same store NOI and FFO, we are projecting more consistent growth for the balance of the year. Our same center growth last year was weighted to the fourth quarter. The fourth quarter alone was over six and a half percent, which skews the quarter by quarter growth numbers. So as we look at our Q3 and Q4 forecasts, they're actually consistent and growing, improving sequentially from Q2 this year. So I think it's more a function of 2024 than any real deceleration as we look at continued growth from where we stand today. And actually that's for same center NOI, for NAREIT FFO, and for core FFO.
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Samir Khanal24:10
Got it. Okay. That's helpful. And then just a follow-up to Caitlyn's question on acquisitions. You've been doing a lot more of the shadow-anchored properties the last two quarters. I know the market is competitive for the core product right now. So just talk about kind of what you're seeing for core versus maybe shadow and unanchored. And I'm wondering if pricing is sort of getting out of hand or just kind of are you getting priced out of some of the core product here. Thanks.
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Jeffrey Edison24:39
Yeah, thanks. So through the first half of the year, we will have bought three unanchored centers. That's 14% of what we bought. Seven shadow anchors, which is 50% of what we bought, and four anchored centers that represent 35% of what we bought. It's really hard to look quarter by quarter and have a view of a change. These were actually stores that we were very excited about getting and we saw these as great opportunities. If you think about it, the average sales of the shadow-anchored centers we did is over $1,000 a foot on the grocer. So we've got a quality grocer, these are all centers where the grocer actually owns their store in the shadows. And so our small stores get the full benefit. We don't have that sort of flat part of our cash flow, which is the grocer. We saw these as great opportunities for us to get increased growth and really stable, strong properties. I wouldn't say that this is caused by the market, other than these are the properties that came on the market and that sort of fit with what we were trying to get, which is that number one or two grocer driving the customer to the center day in, day out, because that's what allows us to really grow rents.
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Samir Khanal26:18
No, I appreciate that. Thanks.
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Operator26:22
Your next question comes from the line of Handel St. with Mizuho. Please go ahead.
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Handel St.26:30
Hey guys. Good, well, I don't know if it's good morning or afternoon out there, but it's happening here. I was hoping you could add a bit more color on the transaction market broadly, the opportunities you're looking at, maybe there's anything under LOI at the moment. But looking at kind of $280 million of acquisitions completed year to date, I guess I'm really curious what's holding you back from moving the guide up a bit here? Seems like you're pretty far along and seems like the remaining delta is pretty achievable here.
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Jeffrey Edison26:59
Yeah, thanks for the question. Yeah, we are very excited about having put $200 million to $290 million on the board for the first half. And we are prepared to do more than guidance if we find the opportunities. I would say that our macro look at the market right now is that it's actually fairly stable. There is more product on the market and there are more buyers and we are finding certain buyers that are getting very aggressive, which is where we've got to keep our discipline and stay out of that competition or the desire to be in that, and stay true to what we do. And I think we did that in the first half. If we can find the same amount in the second half, we'll do it. We're a little bit, I think, cautious there in terms of what the second half is going to look like. So that's why we maintained our guidance.
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Handel St.28:06
Got it. Appreciate that. And then just on variable rate debt, pretty low today at 5%. I think there's some swaps expiring later this year, John. I know it's one of your favorite topics, but I'm curious on the outlook or the plan there and what you feel is a comfortable level of variable rate debt. Thanks.
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John Caulfield28:27
Oh, yeah. Handel, I saw your note and I've been looking forward to this question, man. I know you love variable rate and swaps. I appreciate the question. So, yes, currently we're 95% fixed and so we continue to monitor and look at the markets, but we want to approach the debt capital markets and the equity capital markets opportunistically. The key thing for us is making sure that we're in a position where we choose to move because we like the market and the opportunity, not because we have to. That's kind of why we went in June and we did 5.25% debt and extending our maturity ladder while also continuing our pattern and reputation in that unsecured bond market. So as I look to the swap market, the swaps that are expiring, our debt profile, we want to continue to be a repeat issuer in that market. We feel we've been well received. I would note that we continue to talk to the agencies where TRIP will be flat, but notice that our balance sheet is very comparable to those of our peers that are either positive or even more highly rated than we are. So we continue to talk to them, think there's opportunity, and we want to use that. So we're going to manage our variable rate exposure through additional maturities in that market. We're going to continue to buy assets and do what we've been doing in the last several years to do that. And we'll just keep extending from there. So we don't have any plans to further put more swaps in place unless it matches with things that we do in the term market. So we will manage it through issuance and at the same time are grateful for the deal we got done. Our long-term target is we target about 90% fixed, so that's what we're going to look at on a sustained basis.
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Handel St.30:17
Got it. Appreciate the color and thanks.
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Operator30:21
Your next question comes from the line of Ron Camden with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
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Ron Camden30:28
Hey, just two quick ones. So just one on the, just remind us on the occupancy side. I'm looking at the anchor at almost 99, inline almost 95. Just how do you guys think about sort of the structural ceiling there and the sort of the things that you're doing to maybe maximize either rent spreads or rent escalators. Just the interplay between what your peak occupancy you think it is and where you can get more pricing power. Thanks.
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Jeffrey Edison30:58
Great. Thanks, Ron. So before I turn it over to Bob, we're going to keep saying this and I know some of you will buy it, some of you won't, but we truly believe that occupancy is the — it's our stores making a decision about where they want to be. And if you have the highest occupancy, our view is you have the highest quality assets. And we have consistently been able to do that because the retailers are telling us with their leases that we have the best properties. And so we're really happy about getting to these occupancy levels. And we're very happy to be partners with our neighbors to be able to achieve those goals. So Bob, you want to talk a little bit about occupancy and where we might be able to take it?
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Bob Meyers31:53
Absolutely. Appreciate the question. We've done really well in the first half of the year. We moved anchor occupancy up about 50 basis points and inline about 20 basis points and that certainly comes as a result of the retailer demand. I think we have another 100 to 150 basis points of inline occupancy. I really feel that we can get in the 96s up from the 94.8 I believe it is today. I think anchor occupancy will always be 99.2, 99.3. We still have some work to do to get that, but I feel good about the leasing demands, the LOIs that we have out for signature. I think one real important strategy in our business though is that we've run a parallel path of not only growing occupancy in our current portfolio, but also on the acquisition side. In 2023, we bought a great portfolio combination of 14 to 16 assets that were around 87% occupied, and today those are at 98%. In 2024, we acquired $300 million that was at 93.1% that currently sits at 95%. And we're already making good traction on the assets that we've acquired this year. The demand is as strong as we've seen it in years. And I just feel like we're going to continue to move occupancy up and you see it through the retention. When you're retaining 94% of your neighbors at spreads of 20% and you're only spending 49 cents a foot in tenant improvements to execute that, that is money well spent. So I feel really good about the current environment, our occupancy, and yes, I do feel like we still have room in occupancy.
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Ron Camden33:43
Super helpful. Look, my second question is on tariffs, right? I mean, you guys have put out some data on what you think your tariff risk is. Clearly you reiterated the credit loss and you raised the same store, so nothing in your portfolio. But I guess as you're sort of taking a step back and talking to tenants, I'm curious about the categories that are most impacted and where do you think, what's happening on the ground? Like who's eating that incremental cost on tariff that we know people are paying? Is it the tenants? Is it the consumer? Just curious how that's playing out on your grounds and what you're hearing from your tenants. Thanks.
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Jeffrey Edison34:23
Yeah, we're probably not the best ones to ask about it because the necessity-based side which is...