Robert Martens41:16
I think it's fantastic. And you know, I think we've moved from more gadgets to more practical devices. So people were willing to put up with a lot of crap, for lack of a better term, early on. And I think as they realize, hey, this thing is taking more time from me to reset or to manage than it is giving me time back, is part of what has kind of, you know, you've watched the field shrink, right? I think the other thing too is, I think just like with anything new, it garners a lot of excitement early on, and then the reality of things come in. So for example, monetization strategies with a startup community that have built these things. I always say there's two different kinds of startups: there are missionaries and there are mercenaries. Mercenaries, there's nothing wrong with them, but they're building a company to be sold. Missionaries are building a company because they have a mission in mind and they want to deliver something special to the end user, and they have that great vision. And I think you've seen examples of both of them survive, thrive, but you've also seen a number of them crash and disappear, because what people began to realize is, hey, wait a minute, connecting and managing data in the cloud and things like that, that actually costs money. And I think also what we've seen, and we were really hoping we could avoid, was in our case, we didn't want — we were paranoid about someone coming out and putting a product out that was insecure, and they would have such a bad experience with it from a privacy or a theft standpoint that it would kill the whole category, that people would lose confidence. We've heard that from a number of — like lock that seems to come from the security and the lock guys hands down. Like, we're not putting a connected thing on this until it is secured, because yeah, you're going hand in hand with being able to lock your door, and that would absolutely — I think that focus came from you guys earlier on than did anybody else. Well, we've been — I mean, Walter Schlage, one of his first patents was actually, believe it or not, this was way before the internet, right? It was, hey, I want to be able when I open a door, I want a light bulb to turn on. This was way back in, I think like 1909 or something. I mean, way, way back. And we started making residential connected devices in 2008, so we go way back in terms of time with this. And what we were seeing was things that were being rushed to market that weren't necessarily being thoroughly thought through. And part of it was intentional, part of it was you don't know what you don't know. If you haven't been in the security business, for example, it sounds really interesting to say, hey, I want my door to automatically unlock when I approach it, right? Well, if you're a security company, you might actually think about that a little bit differently, because you better have at least two antennas, two Bluetooth antennas on that door so that I can tell whether you're on the outside of the door or on the inside of the door. Because if you're on the inside of the door and the door says, 'Oh, Rob's right here, I'm gonna automatically unlock,' and there's somebody on the other side that you don't want coming in, that could be a pretty big problem. And so that's where we start getting into this concept of, again, it's like you can't be fixated and fascinated by the technology, you've got to be focused on how you implement it responsibly. And even for the cool stuff that's mainly for entertainment, when you're talking about managing people's data and privacy and other things like that, you have to take it seriously. And so I think it's a natural evolution to see the bigger names come in with more mature products. Not to mention the fact that also, for example, at Schlage, we have a very large mechanical portfolio that allows us to pay for research and development and for guys like Rob to think about the latest style and design elements. Whereas a lot of people early on were very limited, it's like, hey, here's my gadget, isn't it cool? And then people are looking for change a year and a half later, and if you're a small startup, you probably don't have the kind of budget in order to do those things. So it's kind of a natural shift. I think the other part that is really important to point out is, you know, just because your device is connected doesn't mean it has to be ugly. It doesn't. You pointed it out with what Jim's got going on at Ring. He's done a really nice job, and the team's done a really nice job of making the product look better and better and more streamlined. And a huge part of what Schlage is trying to deliver is a combination of security and aesthetics. Who wants an ugly thing hanging from your door? And in addition to that, who wants something hanging from your door that doesn't match with the rest, for example, of your hardware? I mean, only reason I have a Schlage lock over here is because I have Schlage locks over there. So yeah, yeah. So I think it's really important, and as we embed more and more technology where it's a natural flow, you'll start to see devices that historically you haven't thought of as being a smart device being one. So for example, out of PIN and Tumblr studio, we created a device called Luminavi, which is a tech-functional device. It's not a connected device, but it's a smart device. And I think you'll see more and more adoption of things like that. But again, it can't be — it's not going to be successful if we're always talking about it being smart. It just needs to be home, right?