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Gale Klappa
Executive Chairman of the Board, WEC Energy Group Inc

[WEC stock] WEC Energy Group Q4 2020 Earnings Call (2/4/21)

🎥 Feb 04, 2021 📺 DueDiligence ⏱ 60m
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About Gale Klappa

Gale Klappa, executive chairman of WEC Energy Group, has discussed the company's focus on what he calls "affordable, reliable, and clean" (ARC) energy. In a 2023 interview, he stated that the company's five-year capital plan calls for investing over $20 billion in transmission, solar, wind, battery storage, and natural gas generation. Klappa said the company aims to reduce CO2 emissions by 80% from a 2005 baseline by the end of 2030. He described a 2023 test blending hydrogen with natural gas at a power plant in Michigan's Upper Peninsula, saying emissions came down, efficiency stayed the same, and the equipment was not damaged. Klappa also noted that the company's dividend policy is to pay out between 65% and 70% of earnings, with projected earnings per share growth of 5% to 7% annually. Klappa has commented on the broader energy transition and the economy in the region. In a 2024 interview, he said the economy in Wisconsin remains strong, citing a 2.6% unemployment rate and Microsoft's announced $1 billion investment in a data center complex south of Milwaukee. Regarding the goal of a fully carbon-free grid by 2035, Klappa said in a 2021 earnings call that he considers it "one tall order" and analogized it to a "moonshot," noting the need for "enormous technological change." He has also discussed the variability of wind power, stating that in the Midwest, wind capability can drop from 25,000 megawatts to 5,000 megawatts overnight, requiring other reliable sources to make up the difference.

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Transcript (59 segments)
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Operator0:02
Good afternoon and welcome to WEC Energy Group's conference call for fourth quarter and year-end 2020 results. This call is being recorded for rebroadcast and all participants are in a listen-only mode at this time. Before the conference call begins, I remind you that all statements in the presentation other than historical facts are forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that are subject to change at any time. Such statements are based on management's expectations at the time they are made. In addition to the assumptions and other factors referred to in connection with the statements, factors described in WEC Energy Group's latest Form 10-K and subsequent reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission could cause actual results to differ materially from those contemplated during the discussions. Referenced earnings per share will be based on diluted earnings per share unless otherwise noted. After the presentation, the conference will be open to analysts for questions and answers. In conjunction with this call, a package of detailed financial information is posted at wecenergygroup.com. A replay will be available approximately two hours after the conclusion of this call. And now it's my pleasure to introduce Gale Klappa, Executive Chairman of WEC Energy Group.
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Gale Klappa1:33
Good afternoon everyone, thank you for joining us today as we review our results for calendar year 2020. First, I'd like to introduce the members of our management team who are here with me today. We have Kevin Fletcher, our President and CEO; Scott Lauber, our Chief Operating Officer; Sha, our Chief Financial Officer; and Beth Straka, Senior Vice President of Corporate Communications and Investor Relations. As you saw from our news release this morning, we reported full-year 2020 earnings of $3.79 a share. Sha will provide you with more detail on our financial metrics in just a few minutes, but first I'm pleased to report that we delivered a record year on virtually every meaningful measure of performance, from customer service to network reliability to earnings per share, despite the challenges posed by the COVID-19 pandemic. Our focus on efficiency, on financial discipline, and an encouraging rebound in energy demand during the second half of the year resulted in the highest net income from operations and the highest earnings per share in company history. And throughout the difficulties of a pandemic year, we also accelerated our support for the communities we serve. In total, our companies and foundations donated more than $20 million to nonprofits across our service area, including more than $2 million to direct COVID-19 relief efforts. We also made significant progress on diversity and inclusion. We spent a record $33 million with diverse suppliers during the year, and through our board refreshment, 46% of our board members now are women or minorities. In addition, we set new aggressive goals as we continue to improve our environmental footprint. In fact, I'm pleased to report that based on preliminary data for 2020, we reduced carbon dioxide emissions by 50% below 2005 levels, and we have, as you know, a well-defined plan to achieve a 55% reduction by the end of 2025. Over the longer term, we expect to reduce carbon emissions by 70% by 2030, and as we look out to the year 2050, the target for our generation fleet is net zero carbon. Our new five-year capital plan lays out a roadmap for achieving these goals. We call it our ESG Progress Plan, the largest five-year plan in our history. It calls for investment in efficiency, sustainability, and growth, and it drives average annual growth in our asset base of 7% with no need for additional equity. Highlights of the plan include 1,800 megawatts of wind, solar, and battery storage that would be added to our regulated asset base in Wisconsin, and we've allocated an additional $1.8 billion to our infrastructure segment, where we see a robust pipeline of high-quality renewable projects, projects that have long-term contracts with strong, creditworthy customers. All in all, our plan positions us to deliver among the very best risk-adjusted returns our industry has to offer. And now let's take a brief look at the regional economy. It was, of course, an unusual year for everyone, but many of our commercial and industrial customers proved to be quite resilient, providing essential products and services such as food, plastics, paper packaging, and electronic controls. Latest available data show Wisconsin's unemployment rate at 5.5%, that's more than a full percentage point better than the national average. And as we look to the year ahead, we see positive signs of continued growth. For example, Green Bay Packaging is building a major expansion of its mill in northeastern Wisconsin, a $500 million addition, and is expected to be completed later this year. The Foxconn, Komatsu Mining, HUBER, and Milwaukee Tool projects that we've reported to you in the past are all moving forward as well. So we remain optimistic about the strength of the regional economy and our long-term sales growth. Finally, I know many of you are interested in our rate case calendar for the year ahead. As you know, under normal circumstances, our Wisconsin utilities would be filing rate reviews later this spring for energy rates that would go into effect on January 1 of 2022. Of course, we're in the middle of anything but normal times, and I can tell you that we've begun discussions with the commission staff, and we'll be talking with other major stakeholders to determine whether a one-year delay in filing would be in everyone's best interest. I expect the final decision on this around the end of the first quarter. And now I'll be happy to turn the call over to Scott for more detail on our sales results and our forecast for 2021, as well as an update on our infrastructure segment and our own performance. Scott, all yours.
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Scott Lauber6:32
Thank you, Gail. Turning now to sales, we continue to see customer growth across our system. At the end of 2020, our utilities were serving approximately 11,000 more electric and 27,000 more natural gas customers compared to a year ago. Retail electric and natural gas sales volumes are shown beginning on page 17 of the earnings packet. Overall, retail deliveries of electricity, excluding the iron ore mine, were down 2.1% compared to 2019, and on a weather-normal basis, deliveries were down 2.9%. Natural gas deliveries in Wisconsin decreased 7.9% versus 2019, and by 2.4% on a weather-normal basis. This excludes gas use for power generation. On the electric side, you'll note the positive trend that we've seen in residential sales has continued. Importantly, it has counterbalanced the weakness in small commercial and industrial sales caused by the pandemic. Meanwhile, large commercial and industrial sales, excluding the iron ore mine, were down 7.1% for the full year compared to 2019 on a weather-normal basis. However, these sales were only down 4.6% for the fourth quarter, a notable positive trend reflecting the recovery of Wisconsin's economy. Now I'd like to briefly touch on our 2021 sales forecast for our Wisconsin segment. We are using 2019 as a base for 2021 retail projections. We used 2019 because it represents a more typical year. We are forecasting a decrease of 1.5% in weather-normal retail electric deliveries, excluding the iron ore mine, compared to 2019. This would represent a 1.4% increase compared to 2020. We expect large commercial and industrial sales to continue to improve and anticipate the same positive offsetting relationship between residential sales and small commercial industrial sales. For our natural gas business, we project weather-normalized retail gas deliveries to decrease by 2.4% compared to 2019. This leaves the projected sales outlook compared to 2020 relatively flat. With this in mind, we remain focused on operating efficiencies and financial discipline across our business. We lowered operations and maintenance costs by more than 3% in 2020, and we continue to adopt new technology and apply best practices. We plan to reduce our operations and maintenance expense by an additional 2 to 3% in 2021. I also have an update on our infrastructure segment. The Blooming Grove and Tatanka Ridge projects are in service now and came in ahead of time and on budget. As a reminder, our Thunderhead wind investment is projected to go into service by the end of the third quarter. We expect this segment to contribute an incremental $0.08 to earnings in 2021. And now I'll turn it over to Kevin for his update on utility operations.
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Kevin Fletcher9:53
Thank you, Scott. Throughout 2020, we kept the energy flowing to our customers safely and reliably. Our largest utility, We Energies, was named the most reliable electric company in the Midwest for the 10th year running, and our Peoples Gas subsidiary was named a most trusted brand and a customer champion for the second year in a row by Escalent, a leading behavior and analytics firm. Now I'll review where we stand on current projects in our ESG Progress Plan. As you heard in our last call, the Two Creeks solar farm is now operating. As we've mentioned, a very large project. In fact, just days after achieving commercial operation this past November, our share of this project accounted for more than 20% of the solar output in the entire MISO generation market. Also in Wisconsin, We Energies is making progress in the approval process for two liquefied natural gas facilities, which would provide enhanced savings and reliability during our cold winters. If approved, we expect to be in construction in the fall of this year and to invest approximately $370 million in total to bring the facilities into operation in 2023. And as Gail just mentioned, our ESG Progress Plan includes 1,800 megawatts of wind, solar, and battery storage. Filings with the Wisconsin Commission for a number of these projects will begin in the first quarter. Turning to Illinois, as you may recall, we are in the midst of a rate review for one of our smaller subsidiaries, North Shore Gas, which serves approximately 160,000 customers in the northern suburbs of Chicago. Rates for North Shore Gas were last set more than five years ago, before we acquired the company. Since then, we have consistently invested capital to serve our customers while reducing operating cost. The Illinois Commerce Commission has set a schedule for concluding the case. Hearings are expected to begin in late April with a final order in September. And with that, I'll turn it back to Gail.
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Gale Klappa11:53
Kevin, thank you very much. We're confident that we can deliver our 2021 earnings guidance in the range of $3.99 a share to $4.03 a share. This represents earnings growth of between 7 and 8% off our 2020 base of $3.73 a share. And you may have seen the announcement that our Board of Directors at its January meeting raised our quarterly cash dividend to 67.7 cents a share for the first quarter of 2021. That's an increase, folks, of 7.1%. The new quarterly dividend is equivalent to an annual rate of $2.71 a share, and this marks the 18th consecutive year that our company will reward shareholders with higher dividends. We continue to target a payout ratio of 65 to 70% of earnings. We're right smack dab in the middle of that range now, so I expect our dividend growth will continue to be in line with the growth in our earnings per share. Next up, Sha will provide you with more detail on our financials and our first quarter guidance. Sha?
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Sha12:56
Thanks, Gail. Our 2020 earnings of $3.79 per share increased 21 cents per share compared to 2019. Our favorable 2020 results were driven by a number of factors. These included the execution of our capital plan, rate adjustments at our Wisconsin utilities, ROE improvement at American Transmission Company, production tax credits in our infrastructure business, and continued emphasis on operating efficiency. These factors helped us to overcome the sales impact of COVID-19 and mild winter weather, and all of our utilities met their financial goals in 2020. The earnings packet placed on our website this morning includes a comparison of 2020 results on page 21. I'll walk through the significant drivers impacting our earnings per share, starting with our utility operations. They grew our earnings by 22 cents compared to 2019. First, O&M expenses were favorable. This includes 8 cents from lower day-to-day O&M expenses and 9 cents from lower sharing amounts in 2020 at our Wisconsin utilities. Second, despite the impact of COVID-19 and reduced wholesale and other margins, rate adjustments at our Wisconsin utilities, continued capital investment, and fuel drove a net 21 cent increase in earnings. Third, we had 12 cents of higher depreciation and amortization expense and an estimated 5 cent decrease in margins related to mild winter weather year-over-year. These factors partially offset the favorable items we discussed. Overall, we added 22 cents year-over-year from utility operations. Earnings from our investment in American Transmission Company increased 8 cents per share compared to 2019. Recall that 7 of the 8 cents were driven due to ROE changes from FERC orders issued in November 2019 and May 2020. 4 cents resulted from the November 2019 order and 3 cents from the May 2020 order, and the penny came mainly from continued capital investment. Earnings at our energy infrastructure segment improved 5 cents in 2020 compared to 2019, primarily from production tax credits related to wind farm acquisitions. These include the Coyote Ridge Wind Farm placed in service at the end of 2019, additional 10% ownership of the Upstream Wind Energy Center, and the Blooming Grove Wind Farm which came online in early December. Finally, you'll observe that we recorded a 99 cent charge in corporate and other to account for the make-whole premiums we incurred in the fourth quarter as we refinanced certain holding company debt to take advantage of lower interest rates. The remaining 5 cent decrease is related to some tax and other items, partially offset by lower interest expense. In summary, WEC improved on our 2019 performance by 21 cents per share. Now I'd like to update you on some other financial items. Our effective income tax rate was 15.9% for 2020. Excluding the benefit of unprotected taxes flowing to customers, our rate was 20.2%. Looking to 2021, we expect our effective income tax rate to be between 13 and 14%. Excluding the benefit of unprotected taxes flowing to customers, we project our 2021 effective tax rate to be between 19 and 20%. As in past years, we expect to be a modest taxpayer in 2021. Our projections show that we will be able to efficiently utilize our tax position with our current capital plan. Looking now at the cash flow statement on page 6 of the earnings packet, net cash provided by operating activities decreased $149.5 million. Our increase in cash earnings in 2020 was more than offset by higher working capital requirements primarily related to COVID-19 and by higher pension contributions. Total capital expenditures and asset acquisitions were $2.9 billion in 2020, a $345 million increase from 2019. This reflects our investment focus in our regulated utility and contracted renewable businesses at our energy infrastructure segment. In terms of financing activities, in the fourth quarter of 2020, we opportunistically refinanced over a billion dollars of holding company debt, reducing the average interest rate of these notes from 3.3% to 1.5%. We continue to demonstrate our commitment to strong credit quality. As expected, our FFO to debt ratio was 15.4% in 2020. Adjusting for the impacts of voluntary pension contributions and customer arrears related to COVID-19, our FFO to debt was 16.9% in 2020. At the end of 2020, our ratio of holding company debt to total debt was 28%, below our 30% target. In addition, as Gail mentioned, we have no need for additional equity over the five-year forecast period. Finally, let's look at our guidance for the first quarter of 2021. Last year, we earned $1.43 per share in the first quarter. We project first quarter 2021 earnings to be in the range of $1.45 per share to $1.47 per share. We have taken into account mild winter weather to date, and this forecast assumes normal weather for the rest of the quarter. For full year 2021, we're reaffirming our annual guidance of $3.99 to $4.03 per share. With that, I'll turn it back to Gail.
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Gale Klappa20:10
Sha, thank you so much. Overall, we're on track and focused on delivering value for our customers and our stockholders. Operator, we're ready to open it up for a little trash talking and the Q&A portion of our conference call today. Thank you very much.
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Operator20:26
Now we will take your questions. The question and answer session will be conducted electronically. To ask a question, please press the star key followed by the digit one on your phone. If you are using a speaker phone, turn off your mute function to allow your signal to reach our equipment. We will take as many questions as time permits. Once again, press star and then one on your phone to ask a question. Your first question comes from Char Perez with Guggenheim. Your line is open. I can roll, Char, how are you today?
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James21:05
Hey, sorry to disappoint, it's actually James for sure. Ah, that's all right. Better looking than younger. Yeah, exactly. The easier question. So I guess if we could start on the infrastructure side, you know, you've laid out $2.2 billion going forward. How should we sort of think about the cadence of that, and does the extension of tax credits earlier this month kind of change any your timing or thoughts there? Any changes in the opportunity set?
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Gale Klappa21:33
Happy to answer those questions. First of all, for the five-year plan, we've laid out $1.8 billion of additional capital in that five-year plan. As I mentioned in our prepared marks, we're going through due diligence on a number of projects right now. We've got a robust pipeline that we're looking at, and because we're so far ahead of schedule on our infrastructure segment right now, we can afford to be very selective and really cherry-pick only the very best projects that meet or exceed our criteria. So long story short, the cadence will continue. Wouldn't surprise me if we have one or two more announcements during the calendar year 2021. And then regarding the change in the tax credits, the extension of the tax credits, really all that does, I think, is give us even more to look at in the pipeline. It certainly does not in any way diminish our opportunity set. And remember, we're really utilizing our tax appetite here as a way to continue to grow earnings, continue to improve our environmental footprint, and build optionality for down the road when we're certainly going to need in our retail rate base more carbon-free energy.
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James22:50
Dad, yeah, just so there's no confusion, it is $2.2 billion in the five-year plan. $400 million of that is the Thunderhead project that has been announced already. The additional $1.8 is just what hasn't been announced yet, just so there's no confusion. Yep, we have $1.8 billion to look at. Thunderhead is on its way, we hope by the end of the third quarter. Perfect, thanks. And I guess just kind of following on the clean resources side, since you and Char last spoke, we've seen NextEra formally file at the NRC to extend the life of Point Beach. Have you had any conversations with them yet? Are there any general updates there to think about potential recontracting or retirement?
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Gale Klappa23:31
Well, first of all, they're in the very early stages of thinking through what they might want to put together for a life extension at Point Beach, and we have had some very preliminary discussions. But one thing is very clear from our standpoint and NextEra's standpoint: we are going to make the best decision possible from the standpoint of economics for our customers, whether that includes an extension of Point Beach, whether that includes an investment opportunity. But either way, I see us having a robust investment opportunity set as we get into the next decade, one way or another.
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James24:11
Got it. Thanks, guys, and congrats on a strong finish to a tough year. Thank you for your questions, appreciate it. Tell Sha to behave, okay? We'll do.
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Operator24:19
Your next question comes from Dures Ho with Evercore. Your line is open.
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Dures24:26
Hi, Dures. Hey, Gail, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Just on the rate case front, Gail, just have you been here before? So have you done this in Wisconsin before? Can you just remind us and what might the options look like? Could you defer the rate increase, or if I'm thinking about 2022, could you accelerate your cost savings to sort of stay on target with your 5 to 7% EPS growth rate? Just any color around that would be helpful. Thanks.
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Gale Klappa24:59
Sure, thank you, D. I appreciate the question. The short answer is yes, we have had stay-outs before. In fact, if you think about what occurred after the acquisition of Integrys in 2015, we were out of a rate case for four years. Again, in constructive discussions with the commission staff and the intervenor groups. So again, as I mentioned to you, we're in early stages of discussion right now with the commission staff. We will be talking with all the stakeholder groups. The concept would be, rather than potentially filing a rate case on the normal schedule this year, the concept would be: is it in everyone's best interest to have a one-year delay in the filings for our Wisconsin utilities? And so we're working on what the outline of that looks like and whether or not again everyone would agree that it's in the best interest of all parties involved for us to push out a rate filing for one year. And I do believe those conversations are constructive, and we should have a final decision, I would think, around the end of the first quarter.
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Dures26:11
Got it. Thanks, Gail. That's all I had. Thank you. Thank you. Take care.
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Operator26:15
Your next question comes from Julian Dean Smith with Bank of America. Your line is open. Julian, how you doing?
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Julian26:24
Great, thanks for the time, guys. Afternoon. So I listen, incredible cost reductions, right? And so here's what I want to know: how are you guys continuing to reduce costs as you think about this 2 to 3% after a year where so many of your peers already brought down costs? And the question is the sustainability of those cost reductions. So if you can elaborate on that, and then separately, just to follow up on the last one, I'll throw it in there. You've already articulated some benefits on O&M, you've talked about your refinancing activities here that certainly have some tailwinds. What other pieces in this, what other ingredients are there in terms of a stay-out here that are relevant in these conversations, if you may?
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Gale Klappa26:28
Okay, great questions as always, Julian. Well, first of all, you know, related to the sustainability of O&M reductions, let me be very clear: we have continued runway and I believe strong sustainability for continued O&M reductions. And let me give you three reasons why. The first is we're pretty damn good at it, number one. Number two, we continue to benefit from putting in common systems across our footprint. Remember, we had the acquisition of Integrys at the end of 2015. Since then, we have done an enormous amount of work to basically put everybody on the same platforms. We put in a new general ledger for every one of the companies. Just Kevin, just 10 days ago, 12 days ago, we completed a major conversion to a brand new customer information and billing system where all seven of our customer-facing utilities are now on that system. That is going to drive optimization of our call centers, significant cost reduction. So number one, we are very, very good at financial discipline. Our operating folks are just terrific. Every single area of the company has a cost initiative for 2021 and beyond. And really, it's more than a cost initiative, it's an efficiency initiative. So I feel very good about basically our DNA in terms of continuing to drive efficiency and best practice across the enterprise. Number one. Number two, just the continued ability to optimize the organization. We still have runway to go there post the acquisition of Integrys, and the example I gave you of a common customer information and billing system I think is a very good example of that. And then thirdly, we've announced, as you know, the retirement of a number of older, less efficient coal-fired power plants. There are significant O&M savings that will derive with the retirement of those plants, particularly over 2023, 2024, and 2025. The retirements are already going to come in that time frame, but there are millions of dollars of cost savings as we retire those plants going forward and replace that capacity with much more efficient technology. So that's a long answer to your question, but I hope it gives you some color on first of all our success at continuing to drive efficiency, but also the reason why we feel that that's sustainable and ongoing. Right, and then in terms of the rate case itself, I mean it sounds like you've got the key ingredients to justify not going in for a rate increase, I suppose. Well, Julian, if we didn't, we'd be talking a whole different story here. We feel good about, depending upon everyone's view of whether or not it's in the best interests of the state for us to stay out for another year, we feel very good about our ability to do that, again for both our customers and our shareholders.
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Julian30:28
Yeah, absolutely. Excellent. And that comment on '23 through '25, that relates to Columbia here, just to make sure I tie things together. Oh gosh, it relates to the four older units at our Oak Creek site, it relates to Columbia, that was our player to be named later in our investor deck. So that's because our Wisconsin Public Service subsidiary is a minority owner at Columbia, and it relates to a unit as well at Wisconsin Public Service. So it's across the fleet. Excellent. All right, we'll leave it there. Thanks, guys. Take care.
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Operator31:06
Your next question comes from Jeremy Tonet with JP Morgan. Your line is open. Greetings, Jeremy. How are you today?
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Jeremy31:13
Good, good afternoon. Thanks for having me. Oh, you're welcome. It's been nice being had. Just wanted to kind of start off with a high-level question if I could. The Biden Administration has some new reduction goals out there, and I was just wondering if you had any thoughts on them and if this becomes law, how this might impact WEC. Are you thinking specifically about the aspirational goal of a carbon-free grid by 2035? Is that your thought process? Yes. Okay, all right.
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Gale Klappa31:36
Well, first of all, I think if you asked anyone in our industry, you never say never, but that is one tall order. I would kind of analogize it to a moonshot, actually, when you think about what it would take. And again, you know, the pace of technology development can change all of this, but you think about what it would practically take to get to a full carbon-free grid by 2035. You would frankly have to have enormous technological change. You think about what levers could you pull to get there, and there are probably four. One might be huge advancement in modular nuclear. One might be continuing advancement in the cost effectiveness of carbon capture. One might be a breakthrough in long-duration battery storage. And the other would be hydrogen. Again, when you look at where hydrogen is at in terms of its stage of development, hard to think that that could be widely available as a tool in 2035. Modular nuclear is a long way away from being widely available. So that kind of leaves you with carbon capture. That also leaves you with: can there be some more significant advancement in battery technology for longer duration storage? I think those are the elements that we would continue to look at. If I were a betting man, I would say carbon capture is probably further along. But long story short, it's a tall order. And in the meantime, I think the good news is our industry has done so much already, our company has done so much already in emission reduction that we're, you know, our goals mirror the goals in the Paris Climate Accord. So regardless of whether we're totally there in 2035, I think we can continue on the path of reducing emissions. We don't need any change in technology to hit our 2030 goal of a 70% reduction. So I'm still optimistic about the path of emission reductions, and we'll see about 2035. But my bottom-line message is never say never, but it would take very significant technology evolution.
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Jeremy34:06
That's a very helpful economic context. I appreciate that. Thank you. And just one last one if I could, just to clarify here. I might have missed it, but could you confirm if the guide, the 7 to 8% guide, is based off the $3.73? If that's how we should be thinking about the CAGR here? Yeah, it's based off the midpoint of our 2020 original guidance, which was $3.73. That's great. Thanks so much. You're welcome. Good questions.
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Operator34:36
Jeremy, as a reminder, it is star one on your telephone keypad to ask a question. Your next question comes from Michael Weinstein with Credit Suisse. Your line is open. Hi, Michael. How are you doing today?
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Michael Weinstein34:51
Right, right. I'm doing good. Um, hey, just... well, your technology may not be doing so good.
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Operator35:09
Michael, operator. Unfortunately, I think Michael cut off there. Okay, thank you. Your next question comes from Michael Leedes with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
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Michael Leedes35:21
Thanks for taking my question. You're welcome. How you doing? I'm okay. I have two for you. One may be for others on the team, one for you. Just curious for you. There are lots of states that are talking about or putting out restrictions on gas distribution, customer additions, growth, or that would impact gas distribution volumetric growth. I guess my question for you is: what's your view on that in general? It's clearly had impact on kind of the pure-play gas utilities out in the market, but also just how investors and policymakers are thinking about gas distribution businesses. And are you seeing any of that type of activity in the states you serve?
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Gale Klappa36:13
Short answer, and it's a good question, Michael. Short answer is no. In fact, I believe in one of the states we serve, there's someone drafting legislation to make sure there is never a ban on the use of natural gas, particularly for home heating. A couple thoughts along those lines, and I'm happy to have Kevin, Sha, Scott give you their view or add to anything that I might say. First of all, the region we serve, our four-state area with natural gas, well, let me give you an example. It's going to get, according to the weather forecast, 32 below in International Falls, Minnesota this Sunday. There's not a heat pump in the world or one under development that could keep you warm at 32 below. So the market share for natural gas heating in each of the four states where we provide natural gas is huge. And on average, in Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Illinois, on average, it's almost a 70% market share. So natural gas for home heating has about a 70% market share. There's a reason for that. It's cost-effective, it's convenient, it's clean, and in these kinds of climates, natural gas is really the best alternative. Now, looking way down the road, and some have said well maybe hydrogen will take the place of natural gas. Well, you still have to get the hydrogen to the customers. And as difficult as it would be, as difficult as permitting is, as difficult as it is to build infrastructure in this country today, I can't imagine it's practical to develop an entirely new distribution network. And technologically, we believe with some slight changes, the natural gas distribution network could carry hydrogen fuel. So my sense is that the fear about the future of natural gas is a bit overblown, maybe way overblown. But in a climate like ours in the Upper Midwest, natural gas is going to be an important product, I believe, for many years to come. And Scott, we're still seeing very strong customer growth on the natural gas delivery side of the business.
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Scott Lauber38:35
Yeah, that's correct, Gail. In fact, we are still seeing, especially in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Minnesota, about 1% new customer growth. And we saw a large customer even switch over in the fall from using coal in their industrial process over to natural gas. So we're still seeing really good growth both on the customer side and natural gas. Also, we're seeing conversion from propane still as well. So in our geographic area, gas will be a part of our future for the near term.
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Gale Klappa39:09
That's a very good point. If you look at market share, I mentioned about a 70% market share for natural gas. Propane is in our four states, you know, the next most used fuel source. So yeah, and people are moving off of propane over to our gas distribution network. Michael, I hope that responds.
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Michael Leedes39:31
No, that's super helpful. Just one quick follow-up. Whether organically, meaning via growing the rate base faster than your current plan, or inorganically, would you be willing to tilt the mix of the earnings power of the company even more towards being more towards gas versus electric?
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Gale Klappa39:51
Michael, you never say never, but when I think about capital allocation, and you know when the four of us, when Sha and Scott and Kevin and I look at our opportunities with our team, we see so many significant investment opportunities on the electric side that I don't practically, I think our set of investment opportunities is even greater as electrification continues and as the push toward renewables continues. So again, you never say never, but our investment opportunity set, I think, is even more significant on the electric side, and that's where our capital allocation will continue to grow.
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Michael Leedes40:39
Got it. And then last one, if you'll pardon me, have you all ever disclosed or would you disclose what you think your excess balance sheet capacity is? Meaning how much incremental more investment, whether on the infrastructure segment or at the core utilities in Wisconsin or Illinois or elsewhere, how much incremental investment could you make with your current balance sheet and expected balance sheet before it would require you to seek other external financing that's not just debt financing? So how much more can we do if we were to issue more equity or not issue more equity? Yeah, I guess not issue equity. Like do you have excess balance sheet capacity? Do you have the ability to raise your capital plan without actually having to issue equity?
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Gale Klappa41:28
Well, I'm going to ask Sha to give her view on this as well. I'll give you my overall kind of high-level opinion, and that is that we try to marry our capital plan against three very important criteria. The first is what is the need? I mean, we're in a, you know, most of our assets are regulated assets. You have to prove the need to make those investments. So number one, what is the need? Number two, how do you finance it and maintain the solid credit metrics that we strive to maintain and have maintained? As you know, we have one of the stronger balance sheets in the industry, and we intend to keep it that way. And then number three, if there were an opportunity, you know, would it require more equity? But long story short, we really try to balance the need and the financing to maintain the kind of credit quality.
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Sha42:26
Yeah, I totally agree. I think I would just add two more thoughts. One is, you heard me say all the utilities met their financial goals in 2020. Actually, that has been a track record. So in terms of putting money to work, we deploy $3 billion a year, we earn our allowed ROE at the utilities, and you generate very healthy internal cash as a result. So that's number one. Number two, you heard us say that for the WEC infrastructure investment, we very much focused on using our own tax appetite. We focused on the time horizon when we could get the cash back, and we just tried to take advantage not only of the investment opportunity but also the cash flows. So I think overall, the combination of strong utility performance and the ability to recover the cash from the WEC infrastructure investment really allows us to continue to be on the trajectory that we have been on.
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Michael Leedes43:41
Got it. Thank you, guys. Much appreciated. You're welcome, Michael. Take care.
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Operator43:48
Your next question comes from Steve Fleishman with Wolfe Research. Your line is open. Hey, how you doing, Steve?
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Steve43:57
Yeah, hi, Gail and everyone. Good afternoon. So just a question in Wisconsin related to the coal shutdowns and regulatory treatment. Could you just remind us what you've done so far with that, and would something related to that potentially be in your stay-out agreement, and how you're kind of thinking about that overall?
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Gale Klappa44:23
Yeah, good question, Steve. First of all, if we were to come to a stay-out agreement, it would not involve any discussion or any delineation of retirement of coal plants because it's outside of the rate case window right now. So again, we're talking about 2023, 2024 for the majority of the retirements that we're talking about, including the one of Columbia that was just announced by Alliant. So there would be no need to address the coal plant retirements in any kind of a stay-out arrangement, if I'm making any sense to you. Secondly, if you think about what we have done, we've retired a fair amount of capacity already. We've retired, I think, 65% of our coal-fired capacity since about 2015. And in essence, the unrecovered book balance of those plants has been fully recovered, with the exception of $100 million of unrecovered book balance at Pleasant Prairie, which is a large coal-fired power plant in southeastern Wisconsin that was our most recent retirement. And that $100 million is being securitized. In fact, expect to have a securitization offering this year.
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Steve45:47
Got it. Okay, great. And just one other question. Is on, you know, we're going to have a new FERC, ultimately Democrat majority, and I'm just curious if you have any thoughts on whether there could be another change in transmission policy or ROEs, or you think it will stay relatively stable?
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Gale Klappa46:14
Steve, I'm guessing relatively stable, if not up. And the reason for that is when you talk to, as we have, when you talk to people early now in the Biden administration, there is an enormous focus on incentivizing renewable development, as you know, an enormous focus. And I think the appointees that we will see to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, I'm guessing, will fully understand that you're not going to reach the administration's goals for renewable development without further incentivizing transmission development. Those two go hand in hand, chicken and egg. I mean, it's got to be done. So it would be almost counter to a huge tailwind of public policy to try to do anything from here that would not continue the return incentives for needed transmission. So my guess is that the overriding public policy will keep things stable, or at least stable if not positive, at FERC.
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Steve47:28
Great. Thank you very much. You're welcome, Steve. Appreciate your call.
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Operator47:35
Your next question comes from Neil Kalton with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Hey, Neil. How you doing?
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Neil47:44
I'm doing great. St. Louis is lovely this time of the year. Well, you're invited to International Falls this weekend. All right. So anyway, just I'm curious. EVs have been a pretty hot topic recently, right, all in the news. And I'm wondering how you guys are thinking about your investment opportunity around EVs. How soon you need to start planning for the system? Is this eight to ten years out? Are there going to be quicker wins? Just any kind of insight into how you're thinking about it.
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Gale Klappa48:19
Okay, great question, Neil. Well, first of all, the current governor and the current gubernatorial administration here in Wisconsin has a very keen understanding that in order for the state to continue to make progress on CO2 reductions, there has to be a much stronger pickup in terms of electric vehicle penetration. I've heard that. I mean, I've had probably three discussions with the governor about this, and he really, really believes that's the case. So do I. So long story short, there are two things going on. First of all, we have filed a modest proposal for EV infrastructure that's pending before the Wisconsin Commission right now. And in addition to that, the Wisconsin Commission has opened up, or is opening up, a generic proceeding on what is it they should be broadly looking at to try to advance the governor's objective of an accelerated pickup in electric vehicle market share. So very early right now, but we do have a pilot that we've suggested that's getting regulatory review right now. And Scott, you want to give a couple details on that filing?
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Scott Lauber49:42
Yeah, so we've got a pilot out there. It's about $50 million. We provide a couple alternatives on how to also support some of the lower-income areas of the state that may be able to help put some of that infrastructure or support that, whether it's through buses or some other ideas there. So it's in the really early stages, but it'd be somewhat of a rebate program that would help actually put some chargers in individual houses.
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Kevin Fletcher50:16
So early early days. Some of our larger customers who are looking at EVs and looking at what they want to do in their fleet longer term, so we've got close relationship with them and we'll continue doing that in the days ahead.
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Gale Klappa50:28
Kevin makes a good point. We've actually seen a pickup, and we're advising a number of our larger commercial customers who are either thinking about switching over to an all-electric fleet or who have other needs as EV penetration begins to pick up. So again, very early days. I don't think you'd see any major impact on our earnings in terms of EV penetration in our region probably until very late in the 2020s. I'll add a statistic that I looked at here recently. Present day, electric CO2 emissions at 34%. Transportation, which we're just talking about, is 37%. So just a little bit more already today.
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Kevin Fletcher51:08
Yeah, Kevin's making a good point. Both in our region and nationally, the utilities have done so much that essentially transportation is now the largest contributor to CO2. It has surpassed, or we have cut more, and so transportation is now the largest contributor, not the utility industry.
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Neil51:32
No, that was perfect. That was it for me. Terrific. All right. Thank you.
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Operator51:43
And your final question comes from Michael Weinstein with Credit Suisse. Your line is open. Welcome back. Can you hear me this time? Sorry, we can. That's all right. Great, great.
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Michael Weinstein52:00
Hey, a quick question about the extension of the ITC and the PTC that just got passed in December. And you know, looks like there's a decent chance you might have any further extensions going forward. Could the increased economic benefits from tax credit extensions change your view on the targeted business mix between infrastructure and utilities? Could you increase your desire for more projects?
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Gale Klappa52:34
It's a great question, Michael. I will tell you this: we have really tailored, up to now, we've really tailored our appetite, no pun intended, for growing the infrastructure business. We've tailored that to two things: the availability of very high-quality projects with strong credit quality off-takers, but also our own tax appetite. So to the extent that our tax appetite is what we projected it to be, then the pace of that business growth will be exactly what we've talked about. On the other hand, we were just talking about this the other day actually. If we see an increase in the corporate income tax, which some have proposed as part of the Biden plan, then we might have a stronger tax appetite. And if you couple that, meaning a stronger tax appetite, with the extension of these ITCs and PTCs, there may be a greater opportunity there. But long story short, all of that would have to fall in place. Right now, we're working on the plan we laid out.
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Michael Weinstein53:39
That makes total sense. Hey, one other question too. If you do get a one-year delay for the rate filing, would that, could we expect to see an increased target for O&M savings this year beyond what Scott laid out earlier in the call?
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Gale Klappa53:56
No, nope. Because remember, that is all about 2022. Gotcha. Gotcha. That's right. Okay, okay. Thank you very much. All right. Hang in there, Michael. Thank you.
All right. Well, I believe that's our final question for the day. We really appreciate you taking part in our conference call. Thank you again for participating. And if you have any more questions, feel free to contact Beth Straka's direct line, which she gives out to only a few of you. Her direct line: 414-221-4639. Thanks everybody. Take care. Bye-bye.
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Operator54:38
Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.