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Former President & Chief Executive Officer, Agilent Technologies

Agilent Technologies, Inc A CEO Mike McMullen on Q1 2020 Results

🎥 Feb 19, 2020 📺 Daily Earnings Calls ⏱ 65m 👁 25 views
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About Michael Mcmullen

During Agilent's Q3 2021 earnings call, McMullen reported double-digit growth in the biopharma sector across platforms including cell analysis, LC, and LCMS, as well as in consumables and services. He stated that the company was not seeing significant changes in its ability to conduct business between the United States and China, despite ongoing trade tensions. McMullen also noted that the company's long-term margin expansion story remained intact, driven by increased digital investments and reduced travel expenses. In a separate interview supporting the ARCS NCC organization, McMullen described Agilent as a "mission-driven company" that helps customers "improve, impact the human condition" by providing instrumentation and chemistries to advance quality of life. He said the "real hook" for supporting ARCS was the ability to "make a difference" by helping young researchers who are "driven, motivated, and passionate about the research."

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Transcript (84 segments)
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Operator0:04
Good afternoon and welcome to the Agilent Technologies first quarter twenty twenty turnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press the pound key. Thank you. And now I'd like to introduce you to the host for today's conference, Ankur Dhingra, vice-president of Investor Relations. Sir, please go ahead. Thanks, Thank You Julian.
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Ankur Dhingra0:35
Welcome everyone to Agilent's conference call for the first quarter of fiscal year 2020. With me are Mike McMullen, Agilent's president and CEO, and Bob McMann, Agilent senior vice president and CFO. Joining in the Q&A after Bob's comments will be Jacob Tyson, president of Agilent's life science and applied markets group, and Sam Raha, president of Agilent's diagnostics and genomics group. Due to certain personal engagements, Mark Doke, president of the Agilent class lab group, is unable to join us today. You can find the press release, investor relating to investor presentation and information to supplement today's discussion on our website at investor.agilent.com. Today's comments by Mike and Bob will refer to non-GAAP financial measures. You will find the most directly comparable GAAP financial metrics and reconciliations on our website. Unless otherwise noted, all references to increases or decreases in financial metrics for year-over-year revenue growth will be referred to on either reported or core basis. Core revenue growth excludes the impact of currency and the acquisitions and divestitures completed within the past 12 months. Guidance is based on exchange rates as of January 31st. We will also make forward-looking statements about the financial performance of the company. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties and are only valid as of today. The company assumes no obligation to update. Please look at the company's recent SEC filings for a more complete picture of our risks and other factors. And now I would like to turn the call over to Mike.
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Mike McMullen2:24
Thanks, Ankur, and thanks everyone for joining our call today. I'd like to start today's call with a reminder that Mark Toke, ACG group, has already turned in his Bay first while Mark and his wife are currently doing a long-planned vacation and he's not able to join us today. I would be remiss in not taking the opportunity to recognize the outstanding accomplishments Mark has made in his stellar 38-year career. His track record results speak for itself. Thank you, Mark. We have very strong bench at Agilent and I've already named Mark's successor, Poorer McDonald. Pork knows a business well, he's been on Mark's staff for several years, and currently runs our chemistry and supplies division. Pork and Mark are already working on transition activities as Pork prepares to take the helm of the HCG business at the start of fiscal Q3. Our congratulations to both Mark and Pork. And now on to the quarterly results. Agilent delivered a strong start to 2020. Q1 revenues are above our expectations as business grew in all regions and markets. Total revenues of 1.36 billion are up 5.7 percent year-over-year on a reported basis and 2.4 percent on a core basis. We continue to translate our top-line growth into strong bottom-line earnings. Our EPS of 81 cents is up 7 percent and at the high end of our guidance. Before going into business unit market details of our quarterly results, I want to speak about two specific areas to highlight how we are building the buying strategy of investing in fast-growing markets continue to deliver growth and help us create a more resilient business. First, I want to talk about our most recent acquisition, BioTek. This was the first quarter with the BioTek team on board, and the business is off to a very strong start with revenue growth above our expectations. We continue to be very enthusiastic about the cell analysis space and BioTek continues the strong momentum that originated and got us interested in bringing them into Agilent. The BioTek leadership team with Justin Santa Clara were here for a few days of planned meetings and they are very energized and excited about the future possibilities, making a great business even stronger as part of Agilent. The resilience of our business model is on full display this quarter as Agilent delivered strong growth and earnings in the face of a negative Q1 impact from the coronavirus outbreak in China. As this has dominated headlines, let me add a few additional comments regarding the coronavirus and its impact on Agilent. Most importantly, our thoughts go out to all those affected by the coronavirus. On the Agilent front, our team fortunately has not had any direct health impact, and many returned to work last week. We are remotely supporting our customers as a number of them gradually resume operations. We've also restored our in-country production activities and are shipping product to customers in China and internationally, albeit at a reduced rate. On the business side, given our first quarter ended January 31st, we are seeing business impact across both fiscal quarters Q1 and Q2. In Q1, our revenues were running ahead of expectations right up to Lunar New Year holiday. However, the extension of the Lunar New Year holiday affected our customers' ability to transact and accept shipments during the last days of the quarter. This reduced our reported revenue by approximately 10 million in total for the quarter, primarily in our LS AG instrument business. We have since recognized that revenue now in Q2. Looking ahead, we are projecting that coronavirus will continue to impact our China business throughout Q2. Bob will share additional details, but we are anticipating delays in new equipment purchases and slow uptake of consumables and services. The slow uptake is due to the reduced number of selling days resulting from the extension of Lunar New Year along with customer and logistics operations that are ramping but not yet fully operational. It's important to note that while we foresee a cash impact to our Q2 business, our full-year outlook for total Agilent revenues and EPS remains unchanged. Our business outside of China remains on solid footing, and we believe a large portion of our China business that's currently being impacted by the coronavirus is not lost but rather delayed. As you know, the coronavirus outbreak is unfortunately impacting the health and safety of tens of thousands of people. I'm very proud of how the Agilent team is responding to do our part to help our Agilent team, exactly supporting those customers doing crucial research into the virus. We have donated instruments and supplies to four clinical and research institutions based in China to support disease research and drug development efforts. We continue to closely monitor events in China and are prepared to act quickly to help wherever possible. Now on to the traditional details of our quarterly results. Agilent's growth is broad-based as our business grew across all regions and end markets. Our overall performance was led by the Americas posting 5% core growth, with America coming in with low single-digit results, and Asia holding steady despite the timing of the Lunar New Year and the coronavirus impact late in the quarter. Our China business grew low single digits while all end markets grew, our results led by strong growth in the biopharma and environment and forensics markets. Now taking a closer look at how the individual business units performed: LS AG revenues grew 5% on a reported basis driven by strong performance in our biopharma and cell analysis business. On a core basis, LS AG's revenues were down 2 percent against a tough comp and inclusive of the unexpected Q1 impact from the coronavirus. With the exception of China, all regions and end markets performed in line with expectations. The ACG business continued to deliver strong results, posting 7% core growth even with reduced selling days in China. This growth was broad-based across all major market segments and regions. These results continue to demonstrate the strength of our ACG cross-lab strategy and how we are leading the transformation of the analytical lab. DGG is also posting solid growth in the quarter against a difficult 12% growth comp. We're experiencing continuation of positive trends we shared in our core pathology business and seen strength in our NGS QA/QC franchise. We continue to be pleased with the revenue ramp at our new Agilent facility in Frederick, Colorado. In addition to driving strong financial results, I want to highlight some other notable events that took place during the quarter. We continue to bring differentiated new products to the market, gaining strong customer and external recognition. We just introduced the Agilent SureSelect XT HS2 DNA kit. This, along with the recently launched automated sample prep platform Magnis, further strengthens our leadership position in the NGS sample prep market. In addition, industry publications honored the Agilent InfinityLab LC/MS D-iQ system with 2019 Innovation Awards. The award-winning mass spectrometer, introduced last June, incorporates intelligent design and innovation such as embedded sensors that monitor instrument health. And finally, earlier this month, Barron's named Agilent number one in the list of the 2019 most sustainable companies in America. We're very proud of this recognition. Sustainability is a critical topic that's gained increased interest from customers, employees, and investors. More importantly, we believe focusing on sustainability is simply the right thing to do. Before passing the call on to Bob, I'd like to close with a reminder of our resilience and our shareholder value creation model. Delivering above-market growth, expanding operating margin, and a balanced deployment of capital. We are able to thrive by focusing on platforms from multiple large end markets and long-term growth opportunities. We're also driving growth in the aftermarket, increasing our focus on faster-growing end markets, optimizing our infrastructure and operations, and investing in the future of Agilent both organically and inorganically. We do all this while maintaining a keen focus on delivering EPS growth with superior quality of earnings and driving shareholder value creation. Despite the temporary business uncertainty created by the coronavirus in China, I remain confident about the longer-term growth prospects of the China market, our China growth strategy, and most importantly our team. I'm very proud and confident in the strength and resiliency of our China team and their ability to overcome any near-term challenges that come our way. When I look at our global team and our business, our growth prospects and team have never been stronger. We are laser-focused on driving revenue and earnings growth. I'm pleased to tell you that all these factors maintain our growth and earnings outlook for the year. Thank you for joining the call, and I look forward to answering your questions. I will now hand off the call to Bob.
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Bob McMann11:42
Thank you, Mike. Good afternoon everyone. In my remarks today, I will provide some additional detail on revenue, walk through the first quarter income statement and some other key financial metrics, and then finish up with our updated guidance for Q2 and the full year. Unless otherwise noted, my remarks will focus on non-GAAP results. Our first quarter results were very good as we had strong execution across all regions and markets. Revenue for the quarter was $1.36 billion with reported revenue growth of 5.7%. Currency negatively impacted revenue by 0.4 percentage points and acquisitions added 3.7 percentage points to grow our core growth was 2.4% in the quarter. As Mike indicated, our performance was impacted by the extension of the Lunar New Year holiday due to the coronavirus. This reduced the number of shipping days in China and we estimate shifted $10 million in revenue out of Q1. If not for the reduced shipping days in Q1, our performance would have been stronger, with the shift affecting our core revenue growth by roughly 70 basis points. In terms of end markets, we saw growth across all of our six end market segments. Pharma, environmental and forensics, and diagnostics and clinical led the way for us in the first quarter. During the quarter, Pharma grew 3%, double-digit growth in EDG and high single-digit growth in ACG offset the mid-single-digit decline for LS AG. Within Pharma, our biopharma or large molecule segment grew high single digits. On a geographic basis, our pharma business experienced high single-digit growth in the Americas and mid-single-digit growth in Europe. This was partially offset by a mid-single-digit decline in China largely associated with the timing of the Lunar New Year and to a lesser extent the execution of the 4+7 program. The 4+7 program is playing out as we expected, with the third round completed in January and multiple winners per drug. We continue to believe that this is a long-term positive for the industry as drug quality improves and access to health care increases. Our environmental and forensics business grew 4% against a very tough compare last year of 10%. During the quarter, we saw balanced growth between instruments and aftermarket sales. Diagnostics and clinical revenue grew 3% against a strong 11% compare last year. Mid-single-digit growth in DDG driven by continued share gains in our pathology business were partially offset by declines in LS AG and ACG, with both only having small businesses in this segment. Chemical energy revenue grew 2%. Services and consumables grew mid-single digits offset by flat instrument sales. Academia and government grew 1% with services and consumables growing mid-single digits partially offset by flat instrument sales. Mid-single-digit growth in the Americas was partially offset by flat to low single-digit declines in the other regions. And finally, food returned to modest growth, up 1%. Low-teens growth in services and consumables was partially offset by declines in instrumentation. While one quarter does not make a trend, we are pleased with the continual progress in this market. On a geographic basis, we saw growth in all regions led by the Americas growing mid-single digits. Europe grew 2% in line with our expectations. And as Mike mentioned, our business in China was running ahead of expectations through the first two months of fiscal 2020. As mentioned earlier, despite the shift of $10 million, China still grew 1%. If not for the extension of the Lunar New Year, our core growth in China would have been solidly mid-single digits. Now let's turn to the rest of the P&L. Gross margin was 55.7%, down 120 basis points versus the prior year. This is a result of the planned startup cost for a new NGS facility as well as product mix and some negative pricing effects on our instrumentation business. We offset 90 basis points as we leveraged our cost basis in operating expenses, and as a result our operating margin was 22.9%, down slightly from 23.1% in the first quarter of last year. Adjusting for the $10 million coronavirus impact on revenue, operating margins would have increased versus the prior year, and so we feel good about our continued opportunity to expand operating margins. We were also able to lower our tax rate slightly to 15.5% and expect that rate to continue for the rest of the year. This resulted in non-GAAP EPS for the quarter coming in at 81 cents, at the top end of our guidance and representing 7% growth. Before turning to second quarter guidance, I want to touch on a few other financial metrics. Our operating cash flow was an outflow of $59 million, in line with expectations as we incurred the one-time tax outflow of $226 million related to the transfer of intangibles as noted last quarter. We also paid out $56 million in dividends and purchased 726,000 shares for $60 million. We ended the quarter in a net debt position and a net leverage ratio of 0.9 times. Now let's turn to our non-GAAP financial guidance for Q2. We are anticipating revenues in the range of $1.28 billion to $1.32 billion in the second quarter. This range is larger than we've traditionally provided as we've attempted to estimate the impact of the coronavirus on our business in the second quarter. Because this is a fluid situation, we thought it would be helpful to detail out our assumptions, particularly as we see an impact across both Q1 and Q2. Our guidance contemplates a $25 million to $50 million impact in our first half of our fiscal year, which translates to roughly a 1.5 to 3 week impact on China revenues. Of this, we saw $10 million in Q1 and we are estimating a net $15 to $40 million incremental impact in Q2. The Q2 revenue range of $1.28 billion to $1.32 billion translates into reported growth of 3.4% to 6.6% with core growth of 1% to 4%. Currency is expected to have a negative 1.1% impact while M&A is expected to contribute 3.5% to 3.7% in the quarter. We are estimating the coronavirus will negatively impact our Q2 core growth by 1 to 3 points. Our revenue outlook translates to Q2 earnings in the range of 72 cents to 76 cents per share, 1.4% to 7% growth versus last year. Importantly, as Mike mentioned, we believe the majority of this business is not lost but rather delayed as customers in the government ramp and recover. In addition, our business outside of China remains strong. As such, we expect a larger second half of the year and are not changing our full-year guidance for revenue or EPS. So before opening up the call for questions, I want to conclude by saying we have a very solid start to the year that shows the strength and breadth of our portfolio. It is that portfolio, coupled with the strength of the Agilent team, that despite the uncertainty caused by the coronavirus, we are maintaining our full-year outlook. With that, I'll turn it back to you for the Q&A.
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Ankur Dhingra19:31
Thanks, Bob. For Q&A, I would like to request to limit to one question and maybe one quick follow-up. Julian, if you can please provide instructions for Q&A.
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Operator19:42
Certainly. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from Tycho Peterson from JP Morgan. Your line is open.
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Tycho Peterson19:57
Okay, thanks. Appreciate you guys quantifying the corona impact. I guess a couple things: I mean, you previously talked about mid-single digit China expectations for the full year, so should we assume that's still the case, just back-end loaded? And then Mike, as we think about collateral damage within China, how should we think about the chemical energy market, just given that the broader economic activity in China is slowing? So should we think about some impact on CNE as well?
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Mike McMullen20:25
I think I can handle both questions, and Bob correct me if I go off script here. But I think we still think that the mid-single digit number is doable for the year in China. What we're seeing already on the ground from our team — we just spoke on the phone today with our team in China — we're still able to transact, and orders are actually coming in as forecast. I think we think a lot of the procurement is going to occur a little bit later in the year. I think a lot of it is recoverable, with the exception of probably some aspects of our service business where customers really are looking for service people to arrive on their sites. I think we feel pretty good about how we're thinking about China throughout the rest of the year, albeit it being a very fluid situation. And we really haven't seen any kind of transitory or connected impact on CNE. In fact, CNE actually did better than we were thinking in the first quarter. It's too early to call a trend, but some of the PMIs are actually inching up, which would maybe give an indication of perhaps a better outlook, and some initial noise with some of our major accounts about thinking on the current, but we still remain cautious in terms of the outlook for Frisian, but we are encouraged by the Q1 results. And again, we're not really seeing any significant movements in that area on a global basis. And going back to the first comment on China, we weren't expecting a lot in CNE in China anyway, so I think we're in pretty solid shape relative to the outlook there as well.
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Tycho Peterson21:50
And then a follow-up on biopharma. You grew 3% on a 10% comp, last quarter it was 7% on a 14% comp. So was that a pull-forward last quarter? And if so, can I maybe just pop on the dynamic?
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Mike McMullen22:08
No, I think the big story is China, right? That's exactly right. Mike, you know, there are two elements: one is the shifting of the Lunar New Year from Q1 into Q2, as well as the impact of the extension of the Lunar New Year holiday. So those are the two primary pieces. And within the biopharma segment, the biopharma segment really was strong for us again this quarter. And then we think as the 4+7 issue rolls out in the latter part of this year, then we'll see growth in the small molecule side of that space. And we have really strong growth in NGS and the ACG, which is stronger pharma, so we're feeling pretty good about pharma.
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Ankur Dhingra22:51
Thank you, tango.
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Operator22:52
Your next question comes from Doug Hensel from Cowan. Your line is open.
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Ryan22:58
Thanks for taking my questions. I'm Ryan on for Doug. Maybe just to round out the trying dynamic quickly, can you provide some more color on your supply chain exposure within China? It sounds like the operating environment is improving, but how should we think about your direct and indirect supply chain exposure, and do you see any risk to your ability to fulfill demand within and outside of China over the course of this year?
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Mike McMullen23:22
Yeah, sure, Ryan. Thanks for that question. So as I touched briefly on in my opening remarks, we have actually resumed production and are in a really solid position right now to not only ship product to our customers in China, but also products that are manufactured in China to be exported into the global market environment. And as we have a very diversified global footprint in terms of the supply chain and manufacturing capabilities, we think in the near term we're in pretty solid shape relative to the ability to meet our commitments from a shipment perspective. And they may recall that starting with the initiation of the US-based tariffs, we actually had initiated a movement of a lot of our supply chain out of China, so it actually has mitigated our risk here as well.
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Bob McMann24:10
Yeah, Ryan, just Bob to follow up. We have twice weekly calls with our team in China, inclusive of logistics as well as our supply chain. And obviously it's quite dynamic, but as it currently stands today, we feel like we have the ability to be able to not only source raw materials but also produce finished goods and ship not only within China but also get product into China and vice versa.
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Ryan24:37
Great. Then maybe just following up with a brief two-parter: Number one, on the food market, it sounds like things were improving a bit prior to this coronavirus dynamic. Can you talk a little bit more about what you were seeing in the market and if you think that the China portion of that market could be poised to return to growth as we get past this coronavirus dynamic? And then specifically for gross margin, can you talk about what the timing of the coronavirus impact was for the quarter versus the other dynamics that you called out? Thank you.
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Mike McMullen25:07
You can take it as well. Yeah, yeah, so on food, as I mentioned, we certainly are pleased with the progress. We have had several quarters of very predictable performance there. And actually Q1, despite the coronavirus, it probably had more impact on the pharma side than on food. Food grew 1% on a global basis; it was down slightly in China but certainly not to the level that it had been in the past. So we feel good about that. It's probably too early to call that it's going to return to growth long term. We do believe it will return to growth, but not ready to call that in this fiscal year. In terms of the timing of the coronavirus, that $10 million that was quite a large incremental because we had all the costs, so that was probably a higher than normal incremental drop to the bottom line. That was probably a little over a penny of impact on the full quarter.
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Operator26:09
Very helpful. Thank you. Your next question comes from Jack Meehan from Barclays. Your line is open.
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Jack Meehan26:15
Hi, good afternoon. Was hoping maybe you could give us an update on the NGS rollout at the new site and how much that contributed to the quarter in both DGG and the pharma market.
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Mike McMullen26:36
As you imagine, you maybe get a little tired of hearing this from Bob and myself, I'm going to pull Sam into this conversation. But as we highlighted in the call script, the NGS business continues to ramp as we'd expect. Really pleased with the progress and how we're starting to fill out the factory. Still not at full capacity yet, but it was a contributor to our growth in the first quarter, no doubt. Sam, anything else you'd like to add there?
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Sam Raha27:00
No, Mike, you hit the nail on the head. The business is performing as we expected. We continue to see interest from all the customers, the pharma customers that we've given tours to. We're doing work now there for a number of customers. Not to be boring, nothing new to report. It is progressing, the overall good news right now.
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Bob McMann27:23
I would just add, Jack, you know as we had talked about, this will ramp up and be a more material impact in the second half of the year. It's progressing as we expected. It had a slight impact to the DDG and a slight impact to the overall organic corporate, and we're very pleased with the progress. And I think maybe just one more point: why we looked at the second half outlook for the business, it's not all about China recovery now. The other elements of the business including NGS, which we know is going to have a strong second half.
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Jack Meehan27:55
Great. One follow-up on DGG. The core growth of 7%, not to nitpick too much, but was there anything that was a little softer in the quarter in that segment? Just knowing some of the other growth drivers relative to how the segment was growing last year.
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Mike McMullen28:14
I think it was really this is Mike, and Sam feel free to jump on this. We had 12% growth last year, so tough comp. We had solid growth across all elements of that business and throughout, outside of maybe a China impact for an element of the business. Things were firing on all cylinders across the business, as I recall.
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Sam Raha28:32
Yeah, that's right, Mike. I mean, we continued to have good growth, market above market, with our overall NGS portfolio, so feel good about that. And the low double digits in our pathology business, as you heard in Mike's opening comments and Bob's as well, will continue to gain share. They're growing in the mid-single digits. And you just heard about NGS. So you look at the major parts of DGG, we had a really well-balanced, good quarter. It's mainly a tough compare.
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Operator29:05
No problem. Your next question comes from Dan Leonard from Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
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Dan Leonard29:12
Thank you. So just a couple of things to circle back to: one, what decelerated in the Americas in the quarter? Your growth rate in that region had been trending higher than 5% for quite some time.
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Mike McMullen29:27
Yeah, hey Dan, welcome back and appreciate the question. It's really a combination of a very tough compare. I would say probably the area that was a little softer was the instrumentation business. They had the most difficult compare in the first quarter, and we would expect that to improve in Q2 through Q4 as we get easier compares. Jacob, you were looking into this, so yeah.
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Jacob Tyson29:50
Yeah, and I think the continued depressed PMI certainly impacts the chemical energy business. So we continue to see that in the US.
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Bob McMann30:02
Performing at least flat and we would like to see improvement, but I think it's still going to take some time before that happens. Yeah, and I would add, you know, it ended where we expected it to be. Yes, sure.
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Dan Leonard30:15
And then a related question, Bob. You mentioned when discussing the gross margin dynamics that there were some negative pricing effects on the instrument business. Could you elaborate on that? Or are you pulling the pricing lever to drive more demand in the instrument business after four quarters in a row of soft demand in LS AG?
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Mike McMullen30:32
Hey Danny, I just can't help but to jump in on this one. I think that question ladies posed to our competitors because we saw, particularly as we finish the calendar year, some very aggressive pricing by some of our competitors, particularly in the liquid chromatography and mass spectrometry platforms. And if you're adding to that, Jake, no I think it's fair to say that we continue to be premium priced, but there's certainly some competition in the market space right now. And yeah, so they surprised. Privately we don't play the price game here. I mean, that's not how we want to win.
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Operator31:06
Okay, appreciate the color. Thank you. Your next question comes from Patrick Donnelly from Citi. Your line is open.
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Jessie31:17
I think this is Jessie for Patrick. Just wanted to touch on the China impact. You guys have laid out about 1% impact to core growth, and I just wanted to understand how that compares to your expectations and if the coronavirus made that a lot worse than anticipated.
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Mike McMullen31:40
Yeah, maybe just to be crystal clear here. We saw roughly a 70 basis point impact in Q1. We had product that was getting ready, it was staged and getting ready to ship, landed in on the last couple of days of January, and with the extension of the Lunar New Year formal holiday, there was no one there to pick that up. So we know that was clearly an impact in Q1. In terms of Q2, what we're expecting, between the first half of our year, it's roughly a one and a half to three week impact as we're ramping up, and most of that's happening in Q2. We're expecting in Q2 that the coronavirus has roughly a one to three point impact to our growth in Q2, roughly 15 to 40 million dollars. In the first half, it's 25 to 50 million dollars, and we'll expect to get that back in the second half of our fiscal year.
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Jessie32:39
Okay, that's helpful. And then just maybe one on the BioTek acquisition. Just want an update on that business — how it's performed relative to expectations and just kind of how the customer reception has been so far as you've kind of broadened that portfolio offering there.
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Mike McMullen32:55
It just happened to hit that right up and relative to expectations, it's ahead of our expectations. It really has been just a tremendous addition to the company. We were talking about this the other day inside the company. Typically when you put together a deal scenario, you know, it's often out of the gate you don't see a team beating the revenue numbers all the time, and that's actually what we saw in the case of BioTek in its first full quarter as part of Agilent. And Jacob, I know you've been talking with customers about how they're thinking about BioTek being part of Agilent.
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Jacob Tyson33:28
Yeah, again, I just want to underscore once again that we've been very pleased with the performance of BioTek here inside Agilent. But not only BioTek — the whole cell analysis business is doing very well, and we are delivering double-digit growth for the whole business. So we're very pleased with that, and we actually believe this is going to continue for quite a long time. We see cell analysis as a key driver for understanding the immune system and immune oncology, and with Seahorse, XF, and BioTek, and NovoCyte combined, we have a very unique value proposition. That is really what excites us, and what also is very exciting for customers is that when we combine these technologies and techniques together, we can create more insights for the researchers and the biopharma customers than nobody else in the industry can do. So this is very exciting and we're just getting started.
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Operator34:23
Your next question comes from Puneet Sood from SBV Leerink. Your line is open.
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Puneet Sood34:29
Yeah, thanks Mike. First question on Europe. You pointed to 1% growth there. Was hoping to get a view from you on outlook and what you're baking into the guidance. Thanks.
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Mike McMullen34:40
It's about what I just talked about, performance. You can leave a comment on the outlook. So it came in right at expected. I think you know that Europe is in a difficult economic environment, and we think our team is really doing well there relative to what's going on in the market environment. So we were actually quite pleased with how Q1 came out for us in Europe. And Bob, in terms of the outlook?
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Bob McMann35:01
Yeah, so Puneet, good afternoon. As Mike said, we were pleased with the outlook of being 1 to 2%, and that's kind of what we're forecasting in Q2 and the rest of the year. Certainly the team is doing a really great job being able to deliver in a tough environment, but it kind of hit where we expected, and that's kind of what we're expecting for the rest of the year as well.
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Puneet Sood35:31
Okay, that's helpful. If I could touch back on China, I know it's been covered quite a bit, but if I really appreciate your thoughts given one of the strongest legacy positions in that country for Agilent. As the recovery happens here, are there certain segments where you think you will see more acceleration, faster recovery? Certain product lines? And then also, surprised with the growth you're seeing in ACG. CrossLab continues to deliver. What sort of exposure do you have there in China? Given travel restrictions, are you still able to ship products and service instruments to sustain the growth in CrossLab, or how much was the impact? Thank you.
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Bob McMann36:35
Yep, Bob, let me try to take that. There was a lot into that question, so let me try to hit them. In terms of recovery, we would expect that obviously the instrumentation portion would recover, and within that, probably pharma, and so that's where we would expect that to be prioritized over some of the other markets. In terms of ACG, we continue to be pleased by the broad-based strength. Even in China, despite the reduced selling days, it grew 11%. We do expect probably a slower ramp-up there, less on the consumable side as factories are getting back to production, but more on the services side. As you can imagine, having our folks getting into labs right now is fairly difficult, and there's a portion of that that would be on-demand for servicing equipment. So we would see that probably ramping up a little slower in Q2, but then ramping back up to normal in the latter half of Q2 and into Q3 and Q4. At least that's our current assumption. As Mike mentioned, we've been in close contact with our teams in China and I've been watching the order flow, and the order flow to date is across both ACG and LS AG, as well as our DGG business which is a smaller piece, tracking to our expectations.
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Puneet Sood38:01
And any sense in terms of the exposure that you have in China, and could that mix change given the next quarter or so?
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Mike McMullen38:13
I don't anticipate a major shift. You know, we've largely got an instrument-heavy business in China relative to the rest of the business anyway. But our opportunity really lies in consumables and services over time, so I don't see a dramatic change in Q2 or in the back half of the year.
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Operator38:39
Yeah, great. Thank you. Welcome. Your next question comes from Dan Leonard from Wolfe. Your line is open.
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Dan Leonard38:43
Afternoon guys. Thanks Mike. Just back to the biopharma question. Hey Mike, next quarter I think the comp goes way down to low singles for that customer segment. So where are you feeling like biopharma growth heads in Q2? As we just think about momentum and the favorable comparisons but also China, can that be more mid-singles as we net out the moving parts there?
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Mike McMullen39:04
Dan, I think there's a reasonable expectation. So when I was asked earlier about pharma, you know, we remain confident about our ability to grow in pharma. Part of it is going to be the continuing growth we're going to have in our NASD business. We also know that we're getting to some of the easier compares, relatively speaking, on the LS AG instrument business, because as you may all recall, Q2 is when we started seeing the slowdown as China went through this review of their pricing and malpractice practices around generics. So we think there's a lot of good reason to be positive about the ability to have a higher growth rate in the outer quarters. And we saw Q1 in our pharma business, yeah, and we're expecting faster growth in Q2.
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Dan Leonard39:53
Yeah, okay. And then maybe one again for you, Mike, or maybe even Sam. It feels like Q1 is always a good time to ask this question — just giving it some air, heading down to AGBT. Any update you can give us on the laser gen product development? How much of a focus is that at this point? And then maybe what are you looking at in terms of the change in total investment there if we compare 2020 to 2019?
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Mike McMullen40:13
So I think Sam, you're getting your backpack maybe released now? Your teams are getting a backpack? He said that, okay. Maybe just a few comments on this. So yeah, overall, thanks for the question, Dan. You know, if you would have heard my comments already from JPMorgan, we're making progress on a number of fronts related to the development work we're doing on the laser-based sequencer, particularly as it comes to the technical specs, our read length, our quality, and so forth. So we're continuing to make that progress. When you think about AGBT, of course it's not just about sequencers, it's about the overall NGS workflow, it's about really looking at beyond NGS, overall genomics. So we are excited about Magnis, which we introduced not too long ago. Magnis is this really walk-away automation for taking DNA libraries or actually putting DNA in and being able to come back and just load that directly onto your NGS sequencer. We've seen some really good interest in that in Europe, America, and China. So we're going to continue sharing the message there and sharing data from a number of customers. We also, as you would have heard us talk about, have launched a new SureSelect XT HS DNA reagent kit which allows us to look at even lower starting amounts down to 10 nanograms of DNA for FFPE, which is very important for cancer. It also allows on Illumina sequencers. It's very important to be able to use molecular barcodes. We have that going on as well. And we have a number of partnerships that we're working on with a number of customers and collaborators. So stay tuned. I think it's going to be an exciting AGBT. And then the other part of the question was what the spend looks like. Just quickly, our R&D spending forecast in 2020 is the same as 2019, so we're not expecting any ramp-up.
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Operator42:30
Okay, appreciate it. Thank you. Your next question comes from Derek de Bruin from Bank of America. Your line is open.
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Derek de Bruin42:35
Hey, good morning, good afternoon. I have a number of questions. The first one is just on the gross margin outlook for 2020. Can you sort of walk it through the next couple of quarters in terms of how that looks?
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Bob McMann42:56
Yeah, we talked about at the beginning of the year, our guide was contemplating roughly a flattish gross margin across the company, and that hasn't changed. So we've always said that the first half of the year, Q1 being the hardest comparison because of the start-up costs in NASD, and you can see that kind of in our numbers. We also were affected a little, as we mentioned before, in LS AG. We would expect that to recover as we get through the course of the year. So at a high level, Derek, I would expect our gross margins still to be within that range, roughly flat year-over-year. And we're getting our operating leverage really in the OpEx expense line.
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Mike McMullen43:33
And Bob, I think we're also looking to see a more favorable mix in our instrument business as we move forward. And I made some comments about the pricing pressure that we saw more of a calendar year phenomena with price more stabilizing as we started 2020.
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Derek de Bruin43:56
Well, great. That segues into my next question on instruments. I think you had said last quarter you're expecting maybe flattish instruments for the full year. Is that still sort of your expectation? And then that leads into the idea of pent-up demand. Do you sense from customers, particularly in C&E, there are people waiting on the sidelines to buy when the budget gets better? I'm just trying to get a sense of what the instrument dynamics look like.
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Bob McMann44:24
Yeah, Derek, this is Bob. I think short answer on your first question is yes, we're still in that range of roughly flat. Actually, if you looked at Q1, we were down 2% core, but if you adjusted for the coronavirus it would have been down about 1% on the most difficult comp that we had. To your point around C&E, there have been shoots of life, and some of our customers are looking at things now. What I would say is the coronavirus kind of throws some of that into question, but I would say that's still intact right now. I don't know, Jacob, if you have anything to add?
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Jacob Tyson44:59
I do think there is some pent-up demand here, and eventually there will be a tech refresh. We have invested, over the past period, quite a lot into our instrument portfolio, really refreshed across the whole portfolio. So when that pent-up demand comes forward, we are ready, but we just can't call it right now exactly when that's going to happen.
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Mike McMullen45:22
Yeah, and Jacob, I just had one thing. Early on in my tenure, we had a similar kind of slowdown. The difference here is that at that time, a lot of our platforms were rather aged. This time we have a completely refreshed platform. So there's a great productivity message to customers and lab managers obviously have the ability to go to their management and say, listen, there is something new out there, I'm not replacing like for like.
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Derek de Bruin45:49
Great. And then this one maybe I missed something, but you did 3.7% contribution from M&A in the first quarter, 3.5 to 3.7% in the second quarter, and then the guide for the full year is 2.8 to 2.9%. Is there something else in the first half besides BioTek? And if not, are you expecting a step-down?
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Bob McMann46:09
It's so — you've got very good math. And we're not expecting a step-down. That is the only thing that's in the numbers, and that could be an area of potential upside opportunity.
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Operator46:26
Great. Thank you. Your next question comes from Brandon Couillard from Jefferies. Your line is open.
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Brandon Couillard46:34
Thanks. Mike, on a separate topic — the Twist settlement last week. Why only $25 million, and should we expect these legal savings from having that case out of the way? Now that you'll reinvest those dollars?
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Mike McMullen46:50
Yeah, so first of all, just a few comments on the settlement. We're very pleased with the agreement that was reached with Twist. You know, we think it's in the best interest of our shareholders to rigorously protect our IP. And not only did we receive a payment from Twist, they also had to curtail a license for us for certain aspects of our oligo synthesis technology. And as a company, we're committed to innovation in the right way. So really pleased with how the settlement went. And relative to the treatment of the legal expenses and outlook for the rest of the year, I think we had that in our pro forma? Yeah, we will pro forma that. So you see both the settlement come in, Brandon, as well as the costs associated with that against our Q2 results.
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Brandon Couillard47:42
Correct. Next, maybe one more high-level question for you, Mike. You mentioned sustainability recognition. Clearly that's becoming a much bigger focus for the investment community. Can you just help us contextualize how that focus may help contribute to your growth or cash flow or differentiate you with the customer base?
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Mike McMullen48:02
Yeah, it's a great question. So as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we've been doing these things because we thought it was the right thing to do. And now people are really paying attention to it. So I think it helps on multiple aspects of the business. First of all, relative to our new products, which have a very favorable environmental impact, there's a real compelling reason for customers because a lot of our most important customers have their own sustainability initiatives, and they're very interested. I'm going to have several European customers visiting in the next month, and they want to hear about our sustainability plans. When you talk to them about how we're reducing the footprint, the electrical consumption, that some of our products don't even use gases — in gas chromatography we've eliminated the use of gases, or in the case of LC/MS — and we're reducing the size of packaging, and by the way, that also comes with a benefit to Agilent as well. So it's really helping in terms of our customer relationships and ability to drive sales into those accounts. It also is really quite helpful for recruiting new employees into the company. New employees, when they're looking at potentially joining the company, really want to know what Agilent stands for. We talk to them about our culture and what we do as a company in the local community, what we do with the environment, our views on diversity and inclusion. I think it really is a powerful message to attract new employees to Agilent, but also for those who are part of the Agilent team to really be proud of the company and be energized about where the company is going forward. I think we've talked before — I'm a big fan of sports, and if you build a great team, great things happen in the marketplace or on the field. I think that really is one of the major benefits here: what it does for your team. There really is a multitude of impacts for the company, and something we really believe in.
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Operator49:55
Okay. Thank you. Your next question comes from Vijay Kumar from Evercore ISI. Your line is open.
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Vijay Kumar50:01
Hey guys, thanks for taking my question. Maybe one on China, Mike. We've heard some chatter about the Chinese government initiating some sort of stimulus to kick-start the economy. If that were to be the case, where would that impact fall? Is it in DNA and food? Is that where we would see your China numbers coming up?
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Mike McMullen50:25
I have to say, I have heard some rumblings of stimulus, but I haven't seen anything around the specifics of what the stimulus would be. I don't know, Bob, whether you have any insight?
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Bob McMann50:33
I think food is a likely area, and I would also expect environmental as well. So that would be my guess, because these are major quality-of-life initiatives that the Chinese government has been behind. So my guess is that's where they would put the stimulus. But again, we don't have any specifics. That would be pure speculation on my part at this point.
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Vijay Kumar51:00
Understood. And Bob, quick one on the EPS guidance. I see that the tax rate ticked down sequentially on the guidance run. Did anything change on the margins at all? Because it looks like the revenue range remains unchanged, so wondering if this is below the line or margins impact.
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Bob McMann51:20
Yeah, yeah, nothing material, VJ. All right. Thanks, guys.
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Operator51:28
Your next question comes from Steve Beuchaw from Wolfe Research. Your line is open.
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Steve Beuchaw51:37
Hi, and thanks for the time, everybody. Sure, Steve. First I wanted to start with Bob with just a question about one of the underpinnings of the outlook that hasn't been touched on much: NASD. Maybe a two-parter on NASD. One, do you feel good about getting to a few dozen million dollars of contribution from NASD? And then can you give any perspective — maybe this is a Sam question — as to how much of the capacity on the new facility in Frederick is now contracted? And then I have one for Mike.
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Bob McMann52:17
Sure. Yeah, let me make sure I answer your question correctly. I would say that Q1 came in slightly better than what we expected on the ramp, so we feel very good about that trajectory. Obviously, the second half of the year is going to be significantly greater than the first half as we ramp up that business. And I would say that the order book feels very good.
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Sam Raha52:41
Yeah, and maybe to build on what Bob said, we've said that there is a ramp rate that we've been planning all along, and that's what we're seeing. So as you really get into Q4, it will be much more in the run rate of what to expect going into fiscal year 2021. In terms of the Frederick site in particular, it's ramping as planned. It is being utilized. We were happy to produce good product and good revenue from that in this quarter again, after starting last quarter. And further to what Bob said, a lot of these programs and projects are long lead, working with our customers to really lay the groundwork and do the work. So though I can't tell you exactly what percentage, I do feel good about the percentage of programs and projects that we're already lining up going into next year. And one of the points Sam made was absolutely crucial that those first batches we produced for customers met their expectations. As you know, we are very cautious in terms of how we started positioning the ramp here because we just had to get it right. And we've gotten it right for those first few customers. I think that really positions us well when we look at the outlook for the rest of the year.
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Steve Beuchaw54:03
Okay, that makes sense. Thank you for all the color there. And then Mike, I wonder if we could just do the zoom-out thing, if you will. Think about the full year. There are so many moving parts, and the coronavirus certainly makes it more complicated. But if I rewind to 90 days ago, there was a perspective — not necessarily from Agilent, but certainly in investor conversations — that the outlook for fiscal '20 was really conservative. I've heard from you guys over the years that outlooks start at one point and you pretty consistently do better. I wonder if you could give us your perspective on the outlook and guidance philosophy now that you know 90 days more than you did at the beginning of the year. To what extent is this the middle of the fairway? To what extent is this conservative? How are you feeling? How has that evolved? Thanks a bunch.
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Mike McMullen55:10
Yeah, so I'm in the conference room zooming out right now. Great question. I think that's how we thought about the full-year guide, and I'll leave it to you to prescribe the proper adjective. We started this year with a guide that we thought was relatively the floor of what we could do, and talked about areas of potential upside for the business. We were actually tracking well in the first quarter where it would have been a beat on both revenue and EPS for the quarter, albeit the impact of the much talked about today, the coronavirus. So that's why we felt pretty confident about our ability to say, listen, there are still a lot of puts and takes relative to China in the near term, but there are other aspects of the business doing extremely well outside of China — whether the NASD or ACG business, the compares and the strength of our LS AG instrument portfolio, that's going on with NGS, and then back to cell analysis. So we have a lot of confidence. You know, I wasn't called the middle of the fairway right now, but I would say, Steve, one thing: obviously 90 days ago we didn't have the epidemic that we're seeing right now, which is unprecedented. So what we're trying to do is we're seeing, pay in the first half of the year, we're expecting a $25 to $50 million impact that we're going to make up in the second half of the year. Now the question is how fast, and we hope for everyone's sake that it will ramp up fast and we'll get this behind us. But that certainly puts a lot more variability in our forecast. We feel good about where our forecast is, but we certainly didn't anticipate that at the beginning of the year.
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Operator57:00
Okay, I really appreciate the color there. Thanks for bearing with us. Short Steve, great question. Your next question comes from Bill Quirk from Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
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Bill Quirk57:10
Great, thanks. Good afternoon, everybody. Bill, hey Bill. So I guess maybe for Mike, just an update on M&A. You mentioned on the last call considering larger deals in the around-a-billion-dollar range. Just curious what the update is.
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Mike McMullen57:26
I think the statement I made on the last quarterly call remains, which is we think deploying our capital towards growth and earnings drivers on the M&A front makes a lot of sense. We're focused on deals that make sense for us in markets that we know, where we can really leverage the scale of the company. And we did a large deal — BioTek — past quarter, and as you heard earlier, that's off to a really good start. I think we often get the question, how large are you willing to go? The way Bob and I have described it is, listen, we could go maybe multiples of that, but we're looking to stay in our lane here and not do anything that's magnitudes larger than BioTek. So I'm not saying BioTek is the max level, but it's probably multiples of that, as opposed to something of another magnitude size. Yeah, and as you can appreciate, timing is always very difficult to understand. We're going to remain disciplined, and if there isn't anything out there that meets our financial criteria, we're not going to do it. We don't need to do M&A to make our model work. But certainly you see in the first quarter the benefit that we've seen with BioTek, really building scale in cell analysis, which we think has a long-term growth opportunity for us, not only in LS AG but across the business.
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Bill Quirk58:52
Understood. And then just secondly, a bigger picture question about the pacing of CrossLab over the course of the year. We are going to be heading into slightly different, more difficult comps the next couple of quarters.
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Mike McMullen59:03
Yeah, you know, the beauty of ACG has been its predictability across the business. We're not expecting any dramatic change in the back half of the year, though with the possible exception of a slightly elevated ramp in China. But that business that Mark and the team have built has been just phenomenal in terms of providing stable, high growth and improved growth over the course of the last several years. And I think that, quite honestly, is a great legacy to what Mark has been able to accomplish. Not only that, it really speaks to what our customers are looking for in terms of productivity in the labs and so forth. So we would expect that to continue to chug along as we've talked about.
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Operator59:56
Got it. Thank you very much. You're welcome. All right, thanks everyone. With that, we would like to wrap the call for today. Have a great rest of your day. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.