Girish Juneja9:52
I'll talk about technologies, but let me relate it to the kinds of problems we're trying to address. In the pharmaceutical space, the reason it's more acute of an issue — in pharmaceutical space, you're dealing with patient safety, you're dealing with possibility of drug shortages, you're dealing with an extensive network of counterfeits around the globe because many of these drugs are very expensive even though they are life-saving. And there are multiple cases, if you just look around you will find, of unscrupulous elements having counterfeit drugs out in the market for especially these very expensive pharmaceutical products. So it creates this unique environment where having a proper authenticated product is really critical to ensure public safety. Now that issue is also true in things like baby foods, it's true in cosmetics where you have certain chemicals that can be harmful, it is true even in some physical products where that physical product is going into a critical part of infrastructure as an example. So in terms of technology and how you can address it, like I said, there have been various attempts based on industries. Pharmaceutical is the one where it's regulated, therefore everybody in the industry has had to find a way to engage with other partners in the value chain and to resolve this issue for them because, in a way, it became business-limiting — if you cannot handle traceability of pharma product, you cannot be in the business of providing those pharma products anywhere in the value chain. So it drives a level of attention and focus that in other products we are beginning to see early signs of, and I think it'll expand fairly quickly once this is well established as a means. Technologies like I said could be serial numbers. Historically, when you have multiple players in a network trying to coordinate information, there have been three or four patterns that have been followed. One has been: let's create a common environment — which is very hard to do when you have a global supply chain — and everybody puts their information in the common environment, pulls their information in the common environment, and connects the digital and physical information that way. Now in certain countries, EU is an example of that, China is an example of that — there is a nation or a political union's regulation to provide that capability to the participants. So EU has a central environment in which all the players in the value chain have to provide and pull information. Similarly, China has a similar setup. The US does not have that; it requires the players in the value chain to coordinate it amongst them. So one mechanism has been a central clearinghouse. Another mechanism has been coordination between different parties. Coordination can be done on serial number basis, it could be done based on blockchain, it could be done based on some of the other technologies that have been around a while — EDI is an example of that, that was created originally to exchange purchase orders and payments between different entities in a value chain. So those are the different ways we have seen it done.