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Matei Zaharia
Cofounder and CTO, Databricks

Can one system run all your AI agents? | First Pass Ep. 4 with Matei Zaharia (Databricks)

📅 Jul 20, 2026 Altimeter Capital 13 MIN 113 VIEWS 21 SEGMENTS · 2 SPEAKERS
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Matei Zaharia, CTO of Databricks, introduced Omnigen, a meta harness that runs on top of existing agents like Cloud Code and Codex, providing common features such as collaboration, security, and the ability to swap or combine agents. He explained that the biggest challenges engineers faced were collaboration and security, which led to the need for a centralized layer. Zaharia highlighted features like setting budgets on sub-agents, sharing sessions for code review, and using markdown plans with comments. He discussed composability patterns, including orchestrator and sub-agent setups, and noted that open sourcing Omnigen benefits from community contributions, similar to Apache Spark and MLflow. He mentioned a benchmark showing Opus performs the same with the pie harness as with Cloud Code but costs about 2x less. Future plans include adding built-in agents, an auto research agent, and improving security and cost management policies.

Key takeaways

  1. Omnigen is a meta harness that runs on top of existing agents, providing collaboration, security, and the ability to swap or combine them.
  2. Zaharia stated that Opus performs the same with the pie harness as with Cloud Code but costs about 2x less, based on an internal benchmark.
  3. Omnigen allows setting budgets on sub-agents, a feature no existing coding agent offers, preventing surprise bills.
  4. Open sourcing Omnigen enables community contributions, with supported coding harnesses growing from 3 to 20 since launch.
  5. Future plans include an auto research agent and making it easy to write custom agents in YAML.

Numbers and commitments

FigureWhat it refers toTypeAt
$20 Budget limit for a sub-agent to investigate logs price 2:48
2x less Cost of Opus using pie harness vs Cloud Code metric 9:19
10,000 lines Lines of code produced by an agent in a session metric 5:04
30 sub agents Number of sub agents used in a typical research task metric 3:52

Chapters

  1. 0:00Introduction to Omnigen
  2. 1:35Challenges with managing agents
  3. 2:48Budgeting and cost control
  4. 3:52Composability patterns
  5. 5:04Collaboration features
  6. 6:12Reasons for open sourcing
  7. 9:19Performance and cost benefits
  8. 11:14Future of Omnigen

Questions asked in this interview

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  1. 0:29How did some of the internal work that you were doing lead you to building this?
  2. 1:18Like what was the kind of the biggest challenge you ran into internally?
  3. 3:28Are there other patterns you're seeing for composability and how is that evolving?
  4. 4:53How are you using Omnigen to collaborate with your co-workers?
  5. 6:08Why did you choose to open source it?
  6. 8:35... of the underlying model.' Is there a performance boost you can get from having a meta harness in the same way you can get a performance boost from an individual harness on an agent or is there less of a performance story around Omnigen?
  7. 11:11Where do you take it from here?
Matei Zaharia 0:00 ↗
It's a layer that really benefits from many companies, many people contributing because there's a long tail. There's so many different types of agents.
Interviewer 0:12 ↗
Awesome. We're back here for the next episode of First Pass with Matei from Databricks to discuss Omnigen and how the evolution of harnesses and meta harnesses with respect to agents is evolving. Matei, thanks for being with us.
Matei Zaharia 0:27 ↗
Thanks. Yeah, thanks for joining me.
Interviewer 0:29 ↗
So, talk to us about Omnigen. Why did you build it? Well, first, what is it? Why did you build it? How did some of the internal work that you were doing lead you to building this? Just talk to us more about what Omnigen is.
Matei Zaharia 0:41 ↗
Yeah, so Omnigen is what we call a meta harness. It's a layer that runs on top of existing agents. It can run over coding agents like Cloud Code, Codex. It can also run over custom agents and it gives you some common features across them like collaboration or security or the ability to swap between them or combine them. And it really came out of seeing what engineers were doing with coding agents here. All the really hardcore engineers had many agents running at once and many ways to orchestrate them. And we realized this is sort of a new layer that's going to emerge on top of these.
Interviewer 1:18 ↗
That's awesome. And what was the biggest problem managing all the agents? Was it the security? Was it the governance? Was it kind of copying and pasting instructions here and guardrails here over there? Like what was the kind of the biggest challenge you ran into internally?
Matei Zaharia 1:35 ↗
Yeah, so I think with coding, a lot of engineers said, 'Well, I can vibe code my own agent orchestrator. Why do I need anything?' But the part where they all stopped short and said, 'Okay, I don't want to vibe code that.' tended to be collaboration and also security. So, collaboration, right? You got a great setup for yourself, but when you want to hand off your work to someone else, and if you or whatever they don't know how to use your thing. They have to start again. And to build a collaborative server, you need someone to host it. It needs to be secure. You don't want to just have everyone build their own. And then there's also security policies which again, you don't want to do that on your own and maybe get it wrong. So these are things that led to like yeah, maybe we should have a centralized thing. We also have a centralized like MCP and similar industry in the company and it's nice that you get dots through this as well. But these are the big ones.
Interviewer 2:32 ↗
Yeah, I have to imagine as agents proliferate and everyone's building more of them, having the single place to manage the governance and the auditability and the control and the security and all of that will be increasingly important especially for larger and larger enterprises.
Matei Zaharia 2:48 ↗
Yeah, even for individual developers like one of the simplest things this lets me do that no existing coding agent does is I can tell it to launch a sub agent and set a budget on it. Launch an agent to read the logs and investigate this but tell me if it needs to spend more than $20. And those are usually when I had some surprise bill, it's because an agent did something stupid like trying to read millions of lines. And since OmniAgent knows about cost and supports it, I can ask it to launch any type of agent. It can very easily do that. But none of the coding agents out there actually let you do that.
Interviewer 3:28 ↗
Well, one of the other big advantages of using a meta harness is composability both across harnesses and across models. One of the, we talked about coding agents but one of the other examples used in the blog post is how Harvey uses both open source models as well as frontier experts together to create the best experience for their users. Are there other patterns you're seeing for composability and how is that evolving?

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Zaharia, M. (2026, July 20). Can one system run all your AI agents? | First Pass Ep. 4 with Matei Zaharia (Databricks) [Interview transcript]. Altimeter Capital. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1103552/

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Matei Zaharia. "Can one system run all your AI agents? | First Pass Ep. 4 with Matei Zaharia (Databricks)." Altimeter Capital, 20 Jul. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1103552/.

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  author       = {Matei Zaharia},
  title        = {Can one system run all your AI agents? | First Pass Ep. 4 with Matei Zaharia (Databricks)},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, Altimeter Capital. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2026},
  month        = {jul},
  url          = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1103552/},
  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
}