Cathie Wood11:38
So, here I wanted to take a look at both fiscal and monetary policy in a single glance to show the contrast between today now that we have pretty much we are on the other side of the COVID boom bust and the 60s and 70s and you can see how different it was back then. The purple line was federal outlays and you can see what so-called guns and butter did back then. Guns, we were in the Vietnam war so defense spending was booming and guns and butter the social programs that were put in place back then all ballooned government spending and you can see from the green line while it didn't accommodate it all together over time money growth accelerated and really by the late 70s was accommodating all of the spending and it was an intractable problem until Volcker came in in the early 80s late 70s early 80s and just slammed on the brakes and you can see he slammed on the brakes and he kept anytime inflation fears were reviving he slammed on the brakes again so money growth did slow down quite significantly. So, that's some of the history. You can see why so many people were afraid that we were going back into that environment and it was because of what happened during COVID and also because of 08-09 trying to get out of that mess and then having to deal with COVID. So, these are very long-term in terms of their four-year annualized rates of change. So, you can see we're on the other side and federal outlays, while they have picked up recently, defense a big reason for that. They are still from a growth rate point of view on a four-year moving average basis, still near the lower end of where they have been in this chart's history as is money growth. So, we believe that fiscal and monetary policy after, you know, the shock shocks of 08-09 and COVID, that we have reset and we are in a good place and that fears about debt as a percent of GDP continuing to climb are misplaced.
Foreign holders now of treasuries effectively. Now, from the narrative out there, you would think that every central bank is selling treasury securities and that the dollar's day is done. And from this chart, you can see that's just not true. There have been some sales, we know both China and India have been selling, but for the most part they have been a drag on the growth rate here. But for the most part, the treasury securities held abroad are still increasing. So, we wanted to put that in perspective because last time around you saw we showed a chart that where Turkey was basically out of Treasury bills. It had been supporting its currency by selling Treasury bills and taking the dollars and buying Turkish lira. So, we see that currencies around the world, Japan and Korea I mentioned before, those currencies, I think Japan's is at a 40-year low at roughly 162 yen per dollar. And so, they're probably going to take some more concerted action. We had seen that Japan, I think in April, had sold I think 76 billion dollars worth of Treasury bills attempting to support its currency. It wasn't enough. It went out to an all-time low. So, we do hear that narrative, but I wanted to present this chart because there's not a wholesale disgorgement of US Treasury securities.
We will focus on the dollar, and you can see this is our Kalshi chart. How high will the dollar get this year? And you can see the number is 104.9. And it was higher before today's employment report. And we'll get into the employment report in a moment. But it was much softer than expected in many ways, and so the dollar predictions went down in terms of the level because most I believe most of the tightening moves have been taken out of forecasts, and most people think that higher interest rates support the dollar, which it is true. The dollar does attract more buyers when interest rates here are higher. But if you'll notice, you can't see it on this chart, you'll see it on the next chart, the dollar is actually at today, this was yesterday's number, today it's at about 100.5, somewhere in that range. So the betting is that the dollar is going to go up, at least Kalshi, Kalshi's prediction markets think so. And we would agree with that, and for a couple of reasons. I've been saying for some time that fiscal policy, so the deregulation and massive tax cuts, especially for corporations that we've seen over the last year, are beginning to increase the return on invested capital in the United States relative to that abroad. There's another thing that's become very obvious, and we saw it with SpaceX's debut in the public markets, which created many many millionaires and hundred millionaires, the return on invested capital is higher here, and the return on labor is higher here. The kind of incentives for innovation in this country are like nowhere else in the world. And so I think that's becoming very obvious, and of course OpenAI and Anthropic are soon to follow, and that will be the same story all over again. So we think we are dollar positive as I've mentioned on many calls. I know that's not the narrative out there. And in fact, the end of American exceptionalism is we think greatly exaggerated. SpaceX, OpenAI, and Anthropic very important cases in point. Here is one, and it's saying something about monetary policy. This is the yield curve, and typically we have a trend line from the '08-'09 period, and you can see the trend line is down. That the yield curve it steepens up to a point, and then heads back down. It starts flattening. And what does this mean? Well, we were kind of stunned when we saw what happened during and after COVID. We expected the steepening to take place and take us right back into that 200 to 300 basis point range. It did not. And that's the first time in four major cycles. So, what was that telling us? Well, we began to think is the long end of the curve starting to sniff out some deflationary undercurrents associated with technology. And consider the source, that made a lot of sense to us. And I think we're getting some confirmation here because you can see what's happened to the yield curve recently. It is starting to flatten out again after reaching half the level that it reached after COVID. And again, we're saying, all right, what is this telling us? Long rates are rising less than short rates are. Or when they're falling, long rates are falling more than short rates are. And that I think is telling. And we do believe that deflation is a real possibility because of technology. And as I've mentioned before, this is what happened during the Industrial Revolution. The yield curve was inverted more than half of the time. And it was inverted on average by 100 basis points. So again, we believe we're in a technology revolution. And we believe that the yield curve could behave very similarly to the way it did during the Industrial Revolution.