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Amitabh Chaudhry
CEO, Axis Bank

Axis Bank's Q1FY27 Media Conference Call

🎥 Jun 30, 2026 📺 Axis Bank ⏱ 46m
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About Amitabh Chaudhry

Amitabh Chaudhry, CEO of Axis Bank, discussed the bank's strategic priorities and industry trends in several appearances. He stated that Axis Bank is confident it will reach a net interest margin of 3.8% over the next 12 to 18 months, describing the current NIM of 3.46% as a "cycle bottom." Chaudhry said the bank is focused on increasing its 5% market share in deposits by adding more branches and targeting rural markets. He noted that the bank had tightened credit standards on unsecured lending during a retail cycle but that disbursement growth on retail has since returned. Chaudhry also said the bank does not need equity capital for growth or protection. Chaudhry commented on the banking industry's investment in artificial intelligence, stating that AI presents a "great opportunity" but also brings risks, including cybersecurity. He said that while larger global banks have invested more in AI, Axis Bank is closing the gap and that in the next 6 to 12 months the gap "will be quite low." He asserted that Axis Bank is at the "cutting edge" of AI in the Indian banking system, citing feedback from global AI players. Chaudhry also observed that large institutions are becoming larger at the expense of smaller ones, as smaller banks cannot afford the same level of investment in technology.

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Transcript (79 segments)
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Operator0:00
Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to the Access Bank conference call to discuss the bank's financial results for the quarter ended as on 30th June 2026. Participation in the conference call is by invitation only. Access Bank reserves the right to block access to any person to whom an invitation has not been sent. Unauthorized dissemination of the contents or the proceeding of the call is strictly prohibited and prior explicit permission and written approval of access bank is imperative. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions at the end of the briefing session. Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star and then zero on your touchstone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. On behalf of Access Bank, I once again welcome all the participants to the conference call. On the call, we have Mr. Amitabh Chaudhry, MD and CEO, and Mr. Punit Sharma, CFO. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Amitabh Chaudhry, MD and CEO. Thank you and over to you sir.
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Amitabh Chaudhry1:10
Thank you Michelle. We welcome you all to a discussion on Access Bank's financial results for the quarter ended June 2026. We have on the call our ED Subramanian, Manish Sharda, Nidh Gambhir, our CFO Punit Sharma and other members of the leadership team. While the global macroeconomic environment stays fragile and susceptible to geopolitical and trade related uncertainties, intermittent moderation energy prices and normalization of supply chains are keeping sentiment like where it was when we reported our quarter 4 financial 26 results. India meanwhile continues to stand out as one of the fastest growing major economies. The country has navigated recent geopolitical disruptions with notable resilience underpinned by robust consumption, strong investment activity and the government sustained focus on infrastructure and capital expenditure. In this favorable yet evolving macro environment, Access Bank remains steadfast in its commitment to build a stronger more resilient franchise. We continue to deliver quality growth while further strengthening our balance sheet, improving productivity and deepening customer relevance across businesses.
Now, let me talk briefly about the progress we have made on each pillar of our GPS strategy. Starting with growth, our growth momentum remains firmly intact during the quarter as we continue to gain market share across advances and deposits both on a year-on-year and quarter-on-quarter basis. Our total advances grew 19% year-on-year and 2% quarter-on-quarter within which wholesale grew 38%, SME 25%, and retail 8% on year-on-year basis. Retail disbursement trends continue to sustain and remain encouraging supported by our focus on sourcing quality customers, maintaining underwriting rigor and scaling distribution through effective execution across multiple distribution channels. Our theme franchise continues to deliver strong and diversified growth with digital and analytics serving as key enablers of scale. These capabilities are enhancing sourcing, speeding up credit decisions and improving customer experience while supporting disciplined and scalable growth. Wholesale banking growth remains broad-based driven by sectors benefiting from strong transaction flows. Our relationship-led strategy, continued scaling of mid-corporates and conglomerates and deeper one access engagement are enabling us to gain wallet share while steadily improving yields and relationship economics.
Moving on to the deposits, we continue to sustain faster than industry growth as year-on-year on QAB basis, our total deposits grew 18%, term deposits grew 21%, CA grew 13% and savings accounts grew 14% and total CASA deposits grew 13%. Sequential momentum in deposits is also strong on a QAB basis with total deposits growing at 6%, CASA growing at five and term deposits growing at 7%. FCRB Deposit is extracting strong interest from NRI customers and we see it as a meaningful opportunity to augment our deposit base through our NRI franchise and our proactive outreach to banks across overseas markets. Our cost of funds declined by 35 basis points year and two basis points quarter-on-quarter. Our efforts remain focused on further strengthening the deposit franchise through increased generalization and a more stable liquidity mix supporting a resilient and well-diversified funding base.
We continue to see strong momentum in both customer acquisition and engagement. Our new-to-bank franchise is scaling with improving quality improvisation evidenced by an 18% year-on-year increase in new-to-bank average balances. The corporate salary segment continued to be a strong growth driver with 30% year-on-year increase in average NDV balance in salary accounts while the existing-to-bank salary book also grew at 18% year-on-year reflecting continued deepening of our corporate salary franchise and customer deepening. Burgundy continues to be a key driver of premisation with assets under management up 20% year-on-year and 11% quarter-on-quarter including AUM for Burgundy private up 16% year-on-year and 12% quarter-on-quarter. The strength and consistency of our proposition was further recognized with Burgundy private being honored at PWT awards 2026.
Our focus on profitability has been on building a more sustainable earnings profile driven by disciplined execution, operating leverage and ongoing efficiency gains. Our NIM for first quarter at 3.46 is our cycle bottom with the FCNRB deposits opportunity in the near term. We will focus on growth and deployment of the additional liquidity raised through this route. Our cost to assets declined further to 2.2%, down 21 basis points year-on-year and eight basis points quarter-on-quarter. So continued improvement in operational productivity for the quarter. Our consolidated ROA was 1.56% and ROE was 14.52%. On sustainability, we stay focused on quality balance sheet resilience, building future-ready technology platforms and investing in people and capabilities to deliver sustainable outcomes at scale. Our GPA was at 1.28%, declining 29 basis points year-on-year and NNPA at 0.39%, declining six basis points year-on-year. While the net credit cost was at 0.63%, down 75 basis points year-on-year.
We successfully raised US dollar 600 million in additional tier 1 and US dollar 300 million in senior debt instruments, further strengthening our capital position and funding profile. The 81 saw interest from high-quality long investors. The transactions reinforce our current standing and enhances financial flexibility. We introduce regular updates on our AI transformation journey last quarter, reflecting the growing role of AI across the franchise. Please refer to slides 13 and 14 for details on the progress made. Axiom, our enterprise AI operating model, is designed to systematically embed AI in the functioning of the bank by adopting a capability platform-led approach. The core idea is simple: build capabilities once, govern them centrally, and deploy them many times across the enterprise. This will enable us to create reusable AI assets that can be leveraged across businesses, functions, products and customer journeys, driving consistency, speed and scale. Our investments in digital AI and innovation continue to gain industry recognition. During the quarter, we were named the best digital bank at the Financial Express India's Best Bank awards, won the best AI-driven customer experience initiative at the 14th digital customer experience awards 2026, and received the platinum award at the Infosys finical innovation awards 2026 for leveraging next-generation technologies to drive innovation in corporate banking. These accolades reinforce the progress we are making in building a technology-led customer-centric franchise. At the heart of our strategy continues to be a relentless focus on customers through our customer obsession initiative spar. We are leveraging digital capabilities, analytics and AI to simplify journeys, enhance service outcomes and build deeper, more meaningful customer relationships. Our digital enablers are now helping consistently enhance customer interactions through AI and CX platforms. RDR internal AI engine handled 7.44 lakh queries while 30.9 lakh customer interactions were enabled through collidoscope during the quarter. We remain watchful of evolving alternatives including the potential implications of El Nino on the macro. We are confident in the strength and resilience of the franchise we have built. With a robust balance sheet, disciplined risk culture and a diversified growth engine, we are well positioned to capitalize on opportunities and deliver sustainable growth that outpaces the industry. With that, I will now hand over to Punit to discuss the financial performance for the quarter.
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Punit Sharma8:59
Thank you Amitab. Good evening and thank you everyone for joining us. Profit after tax up 25% year-on-year driven by positive operating jaws and stable asset quality. We've gained market share across deposits and advances. Deposits grew 18% year-on-year. Advances grew 19% year-on-year. Our operating performance has been stable. Operating profit at 11,659 crores up 16% quarter-on-quarter. Core operating profit at 11,122 crores up 5% quarter-on-quarter. Net interest income is up 5% year-on-year and net interest margin is at 3.46%. Granular fee constituted 90% of our overall fee. Our corporate and commercial banking fee grew 18% year-on-year and 16% quarter-on-quarter.
We've delivered robust deposit growth across average and period end balances. Our year-on-year month-end balance basis, total deposits grew 18%, term deposits grew 23%, CA grew 6%, SA grew 14%. Quarter-on-quarter on a month-end balance basis, total deposits grew 3%, term deposits grew 5%, SA grew 1%. Month-end balance basis, CASA grew 11% year-on-year with CASA ratio at 38%. Loan growth has been strong across segments. Banks focus segments grew 18% year-on-year and 2% quarter-on-quarter. Small business banking, theme and mid-corporates book stands at 3,61 billion rupees, comprising 24% of our total loans and up 911 basis points in proportionality in the last 5 years. Loans up 25% year-on-year and 3% quarter-on-quarter. Corporate loans up 38% year-on-year, 5% quarter-on-quarter, of which mid-corporates up 27% year-on-year, and 10% quarter-on-quarter. Retail loans grew 8% year-on-year, of which small business banking grew 18% year-on-year and 2% quarter-on-quarter. Our retail disbursements grew 18% year-on-year.
We are well capitalized with adequate liquidity buffers. Overall capital adequacy ratio stood at 16.67%, CET1 ratio at 14.64%. We added 26 basis points to our CET1 in the quarter. Over and above the reported capital adequacy, we carry an additional cushion of 52 basis points attributable to other provisions and one-time standard asset provision aggregating to 8,244 crores that we carry on our balance sheet. We have excess SLR of 1 lakh 41,700 crores that places us well on liquidity. Our average LCR for Q1 FI27 is 119%, up 2% quarter-on-quarter. We continue to maintain a strong position in payments and digital banking. Maintaining our market leading position in UPI payer PSP space with a market share of 38% with the lowest technical declines. We continue to be amongst the largest players in the merchant acquiring business in India with a terminal market share of 22.1%. We acquired 0.9 million cards in Q1 FI27 and we have a market share of 13.4% on cards in force. Access mobile app continues to be amongst the top rated mobile banking apps on the Google Play Store and iOS app store with a rating of 4.8 on both with 16 million monthly active users.
Our asset quality is stable. Our provision cover is healthy at 70%, our coverage ratio defined as all provisions by GNPA stands at 161%, up 2,318 basis points year-on-year. Net credit cost is 0.63%, down 75 basis points year-on-year. In rupee terms, our provisions are down 46% year-on-year. Gross slippage ratio at 1.79%, down 134 basis points year-on-year. Net slippage ratio at 1.12%, down 121 basis points year-on-year. Moving to the performance of our domestic subsidiaries, they delivered a healthy performance in the quarter. Total Q1 FI27 PAT of domestic subsidiaries stood at 5,546 crores, up 21% year-on-year. Return on investments of 41% on our domestic subsidiaries. Access Finance assets under finance crossed 50,000 crores during the quarter. Q1 FI27 PAT at 244 crores, up 29% year-on-year. Asset quality metrics are stable at Access Finance with a net NP of 0.39%. Access AMC Q1 FI27 PAT at 134 crores, up 3% year-on-year. Access Securities Q1 FI27 PAT at 96 crores, up 8% year-on-year. Access Capital performed well with a Q1 FI27 PAT of 65 crores, up 72% year-on-year. We executed eight ECM deals and three non-ECM deals in Q1 FI27. In summary, we continue to make progress towards building a stronger and more sustainable franchise. We remain vigilant in monitoring the macroeconomic and geopolitical environment including inflation, liquidity and our cost of funds along with their impact on our business. Thank you so much for your patience. We would be happy to take questions.
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Operator14:47
Thank you very much sir. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin with the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask questions may please press star and one on the touchstone phone. An operator will take your name and announce your turn in the question queue. Participants are requested to use only handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question assembles. The first question is from the line of Shivam Killer from NDTV Profit. Please go ahead.
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Shivam Killer15:20
My first question is regarding the gross slippages. We have seen an increase in gross slippages during this quarter. So can you provide a granular breakdown of the segments contributing to this increase and does this reflect any emerging stress trends or is it largely driven by few isolated accounts?
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Amitabh Chaudhry15:39
Thank you Shivam for the question. I think you're referencing Q1 versus Q4. There is seasonality for the agri portfolio in Q1 that doesn't exist in Q4. If you look at Q1 last year to Q1 this year, our performance on slippages has been significantly better than where we were. Our gross slippage ratio stands at 1.79% in the current quarter and it's lower by 134 basis points compared to same period last year. So Q1 and Q1 are apples to apples comparison and we have improved asset quality meaningfully from that period.
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Shivam Killer16:22
Okay. And the second question is regarding the net interest margin. We have seen margins were under pressure since last few quarters. So do you believe the major headwinds are now behind us and also regarding the corporate loan book growth we have seen around 38% of growth in corporate loan book. What were the key factors behind this?
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Amitabh Chaudhry16:46
As I've stated in my remarks, we believe this is the cycle bottom as far as NIMs are concerned. So we are hopeful that from here on you will see the NIM journey moving in the right direction. Obviously we have also stated that FCNRB deposits give us an opportunity which could be large and very different in terms of huge amount of liquidity could come to the system and it could provide growth opportunities or give us opportunities to pay down some liabilities. We'll see how that plays out. So we have maintained our stance and at the same time I'm just saying that there is an opportunity which is being presented to everyone as we speak. Depending on how much we are able to raise, we will decide our strategy accordingly in terms of how do we deploy that additional liquidity which was not planned for when we started this financial year.
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Shivam Killer17:44
And in terms of FCNR deposits, how much has the bank mobilized through FCNR deposits till date and what are your targets for FCNR deposits?
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Punit Sharma17:56
Thank you for the question. We have not made a separate disclosure on cumulative FCNR deposits. Suffice to say, we've launched a product. The life cycle that is available is till end of September. So when we report Q2 results, we'll come back to you with the cumulative value that we end up raising.
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Operator18:24
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Ashish Shagashi from PTI. Please go ahead.
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Ashish Shagashi18:30
Thank you so much sir. So just to repeat on the previous question on the corporate side, what is driving this 38% number? How much of it would be probably greenfield bound brownfield investment term loans and also sir, is any of it really playing into the NIM number which has actually lowered to a cycle bottom as you said sir?
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Punit Sharma19:04
Hi Ashish. Growth is primarily coming from sectors where we are seeing underlying economic tailwinds as well as strong transaction flows. These sectors are energy, commercial, real estate, infra, metals, industrials. We're also seeing a lot of growth coming from mid-corporates as we have reported the numbers. We're also seeing growth from conglomerates and NBFCs particularly PSL. Along with the growth we've been able to increase our yields as well during the quarter and clearly as Amitab covered, we're not just looking at balance sheet-led growth, we're looking at relationship growth and the one access engagement across products within the bank and within the group are helping us get risk-adjusted returns above thresholds.
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Ashish Shagashi19:57
Any impact of this high growth on your NIMs?
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Punit Sharma20:08
Thank you for the question. I think as part of our opening remarks, we said that we've hit cycle bottom on margins. We will continue to grow in a calibrated manner optimizing per shareholder return. That's where we would like to leave that response at, please.
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Ashish Shagashi20:27
Okay sir. On the FCNR front, how confident are you that the flows by Q2 end will help expand the margins strictly from a perspective will help in expansion of the margins and not be really dilutive as one of your larger peers just told us?
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Amitabh Chaudhry20:54
Thank you for the question. I don't think we've said we've not commented on whether FCNRB is dilutive or accretive to margin. I think our comments are limited to the fact that the liquidity that gets generated through the FCNRB deposits will get deployed towards growth. We will look at what opportunities present themselves for growth and deploy that liquidity there too. In terms of quantum of FCNRB deposits, we would prefer not to comment on the quantum. I think what we've previously said on FCNRB is as a franchise, we are comfortable stating that our market share will be higher than our organic market share. That's the comfort that we have. That's all that we would like to state at the moment. Please allow us to report actual performance at the end of quarter 2 which will then be a fair comparison of where market stands.
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Ashish Shagashi21:54
Just laboring a bit on the FCNR sir, how like what is like have you decided on the leverage levels which you will possibly allow to the diaspora on this product? Because there are some reports saying that it can be as high as 1910.
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Amitabh Chaudhry22:20
Yeah. Hi. So you know those are decisions that we'll take on a transaction-by-transaction basis. There is no overall view on what leverage how much will we allow as Punit just mentioned. It's been only a month. Some of the clarifications came a couple of weeks back. During the course of this quarter, we'll do the mobilization based on what is best for our franchise and we'll come back to you at the end of the quarter based on actual performance in terms of both leverage as well as the total mobilization that we've done. So I would advise all of you to look at not just one parameter. I mean you have to look at leverage, you have to look at the rate at which the lending is being done, you have to look at what is the base deposit rate. I think when people pick up just one parameter and start quoting it as if some miracle is happening, I think that can be avoided. Every parameter has to be looked at and finally you have to look at the overall return being given to the customer. So it's an evolving space. So there is no point in speculating on what, where, how, how much etc. Thank you.
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Operator23:34
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Harsha K from Bloomberg. Please go ahead.
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Harsha K23:40
Hi, good evening. So based on the trends seen so far in Q1, what kind of credit growth are you expecting for FY27 and any status that you see as stand out?
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Punit Sharma24:21
Thank you for the question. I think the outlook that we had for the banking industry based on our house economist view was a 12 odd percentage point industry credit growth for FI27. That's the industry number not an access number and the outlook that we have consistently provided is we believe that over the medium-term we can grow at 300 basis points faster than industry. That is our stated outlook on both industry as well as access specific growth.
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Operator25:02
Thank you. We'll take the next question from the line of Aira Warrior from Business World. Please go ahead.
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Aira Warrior25:09
Hi sir, good evening sir. First question is you know this has been quite some few months into West Asia or in a quarter has passed. How does the bank look at the impact or is the bank facing any impact of it on your books or how has it been sir?
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Punit Sharma25:30
Thank you very much for the question. I think the simple answer I can offer you is we made a 2001 crore prudent provision for the West Asia crisis as part of our Q4 FI26 results. We've not had to draw down or we have not drawn down a single rupee from that provision. That provision stands at 2001 crores in its entirety at the end of quarter 1. When we made the provision, we said the provision is not reflective of the underlying asset quality both on our loans and investments. We stay true to that statement at the end of quarter 1. Also, the provision continues to be prudent. We do not see any worrisome underlying trends on our investment and loan book as on date.
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Aira Warrior26:19
Okay. So another question is your other income is down 39% ROI. So could you please help me out with where the drop is coming from?
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Punit Sharma26:30
Thank you. I think there is only one line item that's actually impacting it. If you look at the detailed P&L that we run, we had a large trading profit in Q1 of last year and the trading profit is lower. It was about 1,400 crores Q1 last year. Our trading profit for the current year is roughly about 530 crores. That difference of 900 crores is the cause of the decline that you have just referenced.
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Aira Warrior26:58
Okay. So one last question: since you have a strong corporate book, how is the bank looking at acquisition financing as an opportunity and what is the outcome there?
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Punit Sharma27:15
We'll continue to be selective as we are currently both in terms of sectors as well as client and wherever the opportunities on our ROAK and opportunity to cross-sell etc., we will be participative and we don't have any defined strategy but we'll continue to be looking out for opportunities to ensure that we pick up transactions and sectors that meet our internal hurdles.
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Operator27:48
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Shrishi Sharma from ETBSFI. Please go ahead.
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Shrishi Sharma27:55
Um, thank you. Good evening everyone. First question on the FCNR deposit mobilization. The recent circular from UAE that came was about the Indian bank's representative offices. There were some restrictions on the way it's being marketed. Is RBI Ministry of Finance talking to the UAE government or the concerned entity on relieving some of these restrictions since you also have a representative office in UAE?
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Punit Sharma28:30
Thank you for the question. We refrain from commenting on the government or regulator actions. We would prefer to see the guidelines as issued to us. We will be fully compliant with all external guidelines applicable in the course of our business. We would not like to speculate or comment on what the government or the regulator are proceeding on.
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Shrishi Sharma28:54
Noted. Second question again Mr. Chaudhry's message in the annual report was how the usage of AI would be reflecting the bottom line impact in the next 18 to 24 months. I know I'm raising this for the third time in the call and the headcount for Access Bank in Q1 has again seen some reduction yet again with the entire FI26 showing the same kind of trend. One of your larger peers also extrapolated on what kind of roles are they reducing upon. I'd ask you and I'd add one more point. The largest bank's reduction and your reduction was almost the same amount while your workforce is half of them. What I'm trying to understand is where is this big time optimization coming from? Is this trend going to continue yet again and how much are you investing in AI?
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Punit Sharma30:06
There are a lot of questions in there. As I mentioned last time, much of the AI work that we have been doing over the last 12 months, the fruits of that as Amitab has written as part of his letter to shareholders in the annual report will be seen over the next 18 to 24 months. What you're seeing right now are continued investments that we made in technology in terms of productivity enhancements coming through largely and that's not really AI, some part of it might be some of the recent AI stuff that we have done. Two things to note: one, this is not a layoff; we have an attrition of about 18 to 20%. So as we get more productive and efficient, we just don't backfill the attrition. So there is no layoff happening here, right? And I think that's very important to note. And second, this will continue because there is good amount of investment and we have some headroom for productivity growth. Since you compared us with some of our peers, if you look at our productivity metrics on branch productivity, we do have quite good headroom for matching up to those productivity levels. So we are continuing on our path. I think the benefits of AI will come through a bit later. The current benefits are our continued investments on tech investments that we've made over the last 2-3 years.
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Shrishi Sharma31:33
Okay, like you mentioned there's no layoff happening but you're not adding on to the roles. What roles are those? If I'm to understand, what are those functions where you're gaining more productivity and you don't need more people to do the same task, what are those roles?
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Punit Sharma31:51
Broadly speaking, roles where typically we have a mid-office, back office, maker-checker, multiple levels of checks, there are opportunities for us to eliminate some of those kind of activities individually as people use some of the tools we are using. If they were able to do 10 tasks in a particular day, they are able to do 11 now. So a lot of it is just making sure that the mid-office and the back office gets more efficient and some of that capacity is now more focused on the front end in terms of conversations with customers, discussions with customers. So that kind of shift will continue to happen.
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Shrishi Sharma32:35
And this trend is going to continue, is what I make here. I mean as a mark...
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Punit Sharma32:42
I mean it will possibly continue if we continue to see some of the benefits and the costs of AI implementation etc. continue to trend the way it is currently.
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Shrishi Sharma32:53
Okay noted. Last point on credit card issuance has seen some decline if you could elaborate on that.
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Anika33:02
U so um hi this is Anika. See we have always said we'll continue to have in the ballpark range of a million cards a quarter. We were coming off the back of a quarter 4 where we saw a higher number. Nothing more to it. We continue to remain and focus on calibrated growth and we'll be rangebound in that range over the next few quarters.
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Operator33:32
Thank you. A reminder to all the participants that you may please press star and one to ask questions. We'll take the next question from the line of Taranum Manul from Business World. Please go ahead.
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Taranum Manul33:45
Yeah, thank you so much. So I just have one question. The retail loan growth slowed to 8% year-on-year in Q1 FI27. What do you think were the key reasons behind this moderation?
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Manish Sharda34:00
Hi, this is Manish Sharda. You know, we've seen like we've been telling in last couple of quarters also, we've seen growth in our disbursement numbers year-on-year in all of our asset lines. If you compare the growth numbers that we've given out in the investor presentation and compared that to the growth numbers in the previous quarter, in all of our asset lines, we've started seeing the effect of the disbursement growth in the book growth as well. And over the next couple of quarters, we will start seeing the book growth coming back to its original to a higher number than where it is today. So we are pushing for growth in the retail assets across all of our lines and we are seeing healthy growth coming through now.
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Operator34:52
Thank you. The next question is from the line of AI from Economic Times. Please go ahead.
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Analyst35:00
Hello. Am I audible?
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Operator35:08
I'm sorry sir we have lost the line for Mr. Aai. We will move on to the next question. We'll take the question from Suti Mafi from Business World. Please go ahead.
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Suti Mafi35:20
Um hello sir. My question is the credit card issuance fell from 0.92 million in quarter 1 FI27 from 1.10 million in quarter 4 of FI26. Is Access Bank losing market share or is this a strategic slowdown?
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Anika35:44
So um as I said in the previous answer, you know we have said that we continue to focus on calibrated growth, getting close to a million cards every quarter. Our market share in terms of SIF remains stable. In fact, if you refer to the RBI report for May, we have actually gained market share on spend. So it's something which continues for us. The ambition, the growth and the focus continues and in subsequent quarters will continue to grow in the same range that we talk about every time.
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Suti Mafi36:20
Oh yeah, I have one more question. What caused trading income to collapse by 62% despite overall business growth? Can you please elaborate on that too?
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Punit Sharma36:34
Thank you for the question. Effectively, if you look at trading profit, it was 1420 crores same quarter last year and it's 537 crores the current quarter. My request is two things. One, please don't look at trading profit on a quarter-by-quarter basis. Trading profit should be looked at on a full year basis. We did about close to 80% of our full-year trading profit in the first quarter of last year. So there are timing differences but the drop in other income is principally because of the difference in trading profit and our request to you would be measure trading performance on a full year basis rather than a quarter-by-quarter basis.
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Operator37:25
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Christina Titus from Financial Express. Please go ahead.
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Christina Titus37:33
Hi, am I audible?
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Operator37:37
Yes, you are ma'am. Please proceed.
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Christina Titus37:39
So, I just wanted to ask how do you expect your cost of deposits to pan out going ahead especially with FCNR flows coming in?
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Punit Sharma38:12
We don't provide an outlook or a guidance on cost of deposits or cost of funds. However, we would request you to look at slide nine of our investor presentation. On a sequential quarter basis, we've seen a two basis points optimization on cost of funds and on a full-year basis we've seen close to a 35 basis points optimization on our cost of funds. FCNRB rates are broadly published. So we would request you to draw your own conclusion. We don't offer guidance on cost of funds or cost of deposits. Thank you.
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Christina Titus38:49
Is this one more question? So with the weak monsoon, do you see any impact on your portfolio?
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Punit Sharma39:01
Yeah, thanks for your question. We have looked at our overall portfolio. We feel it is holding well despite the news around the weak monsoon. We'll continue to monitor it and we will take focus risk actions wherever required.
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Operator39:22
Thank you. The next question is from the line of AI from the Economic Times. Please go ahead.
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Analyst39:29
Sorry, I from Economic Times. The line got disconnected. My question was what is your assessment of direction of bond yields going ahead? Do you expect it to harden or you expect a softer ease going forward?
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Punit Sharma39:50
Hi, we've already seen some impact of the reduction in oil prices and the actions that Reserve Bank has taken with regard to the currency markets on the bond yields. Bond yields have come down by approximately 30 basis points from their highs. Going forward, there could be some further softening bias as the FCNRB flows come in and some of the banks will probably end up investing this money in government bonds, particularly the foreign banks. So we could see some sobering effect as a result of that but don't expect a big shift in the near term.
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Analyst40:29
Okay. Thank you. Another query: is there a case where your bank has started trading more in longer terms 15 or 30 years especially since they were included in the far bonds?
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Punit Sharma40:43
No, we don't base our decision of investments for our portfolio on the index inclusion and the fire bond changes. Our decision is driven by our own portfolio target durations etc. So that does not really impact us.
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Operator41:09
The next question is from the line of Anika from Mint. Please go ahead.
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Analyst41:15
Hi, good evening. So two questions. First, what is the sort of demand been under the ECLG scheme from your client portfolio and whether you're seeing some kind of not stress but at least signs of repayment slowdown or feedback from clients. And the second question would be on I think last October you mentioned that you don't see any impact from the ECL framework transition but have you had some time to assess maybe what the impact on net worth would be and in that context what would be the ideal capital level you would like to maintain because it's been around the 16.5% level for the last two quarters.
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Punit Sharma42:02
Thank you so much for your questions. Let me attempt to answer them part by part. Your first question was ECLGs. Roughly we have sanctioned close to about 5,000 odd crores on ECLG and our disbursements have been 2,400 crores, very limited in the context of the overall size of our book, clearly underpinning the credit quality of the underlying portfolio. We do a risk assessment and we will be calibrated about how we put out the digital exposure to customers that are eligible. Your second question if I gather was around ECL on expected credit losses. I think your question had a supposition in it which said that we said there was no impact of ECL guidelines. We have consistently been saying that the impact of ECL guidelines will be marginal on our net worth. That is based on the assessment we currently have. Even after the final guidelines, we continue to maintain the position that ECL will have a marginal impact on net worth. Post ECL transition, we have offered an industry view. We do think at an industry level, provisions to assets will move up for the sector in the initial part of the ECL implementation cycle. I hope I've answered all your questions. If there's one that I have missed, I'm happy to take a follow-up.
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Analyst43:43
So maybe just on capital, what is the sort of ideal level that you would like to maintain? Maybe would you want to boost your capital levels at this point in time, are you comfortable, how are you viewing the capital adequacy?
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Punit Sharma43:55
So we have a capital philosophy. We like to operate at roughly about 400 basis points above regulatory minimum. We will also make sure that we protect our domestic AAA rating. 400 basis points above regulatory minimum is 12%. We are rated by all four domestic rating agencies at AAA and the CET1 threshold for them for that rating, depending on which rating agency you look at, is between 10.5% and 12%. Our current CET1 as I called out as part of my early comments was we are at 14% plus, we also carry a 52 basis points. It's 14.64%. We've accreted 25 basis points of CET1 in the quarter. We carry 52 basis points of additional cushion over reported capital. So very clear that we are comfortable with our capital position and we will continue to operate within the capital range that we currently are operating at.
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Operator45:04
Thank you ladies and gentlemen. That was the last question. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Punit Sharma for closing comments. Thank you and over to you sir.
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Punit Sharma45:13
Thank you Michelle. Thank you everyone for having taken the time to join us this evening. If any questions remain unanswered or there are follow-up questions, we request you to reach out to our corporate communications team and we'd be very happy to come back to you.
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Amitabh Chaudhry45:32
Just second, I just want to use the opportunity to thank Punit for working and serving Access Bank for the last six years. So beautifully, I think he has created a reputation for himself in the marketplace and he is moving on to a bigger institution. We wish him the very best and I'm hoping that he'll remain an ambassador of Access wherever he goes. Thank you Punit, thanks a lot.
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Punit Sharma45:58
Thank you sir. Thank you members of the management. On behalf of Access Bank, thank you for joining us and you may now disconnect your lines. Thank you.