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Erik Lundén
President and CEO, Bufab

Så ska Bufab höja de rekordhöga marginalerna ytterligare

🎥 Oct 24, 2024 📺 EFN Ekonomikanalen ⏱ 8m 👁 313 views
Bufab rusar efter dagens rapport. Vi intervjuar vd Erik Lundén för att få en sammanfattning av kvartalet och vad han ser framåt. Programledare: Jesper Norberg ______________________________ Gillar du videon? Prenumerera på EFN på YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/efnekonomikan... Besök gärna http://www.efn.se för mer av vårt innehåll. X: https://x.com/efntv Facebook:   / efnekonomikanalen   Instagram:   / efnekonomikanalen   Linkedin:   / efn   Tiktok:   / efn_ekonomikanalen  
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About Erik Lundén

Erik Lundén, President and CEO of Bufab, commented on the company's third-quarter 2025 report, stating that he was satisfied with the quarter. He noted that organic sales declined 2.6 percent, which he described as "a step in the right direction," while the gross margin reached an all-time high above 30 percent, which he called "a strength signal." Lundén characterized the industrial market as still cautious and said that signs of a recovery seen earlier had been delayed rather than disappeared. He added that Bufab had reduced its debt and was ready for acquisitions, with market activity at a higher level than a year ago. In earlier remarks from October 2024, Lundén described Bufab's business as shifting "from selling screw and nut to selling value, what we call 'peace of mind'." He said this shift could be seen in the company's rising gross margin and that higher value created for customers should lead to higher margins for Bufab.

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Interviewer0:13
The component company Bufab reports a turnover that decreases 9.2% for the third quarter but only 2.6% organically. The adjusted EBITA margin is in line with last year. But order intake declines 16%. Cash flow is strong, however, just like the stock today, up just over 8% last time I checked. And with me... to discuss the report, I have Bufab's CEO Erik Lundén. Warm welcome.
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Erik Lundén0:38
Thank you very much.
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Interviewer0:38
I gave a brief overview of the quarter. Could you elaborate a bit and summarize it for us?
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Erik Lundén0:45
Yes, I can do that. First and foremost, I am satisfied with the quarter. I think that what we can influence, we do in a good way. As you said, we were down 2.6% organically. That is a step in the right direction. We still have a cautious market out there. Then on the margin side, I am very pleased with the gross margin, all-time high now over 30%. That is a strong signal that we create value for our customers and that it also ends up in our books, so it's great to see. The EBITA margin is also in line with what we had in Q3 last year, and I am satisfied with that as well. We are reducing our cost base, and the activities we have done during the end of 2023, beginning of 2024, are also having an effect on the cost side. So on the margin side, I am also satisfied. Then there is good cash flow, which I am happy with, and we are reducing our net debt. So that's good. Then I can also mention here, you talked about our order intake: It is, adjusted for Hallborn and Lann which we divested, in line with net sales for the quarter. So no major change there, adjusted for the divestment of Hallborn and Lann which we did in early July.
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Interviewer2:06
Great, thanks. We have talked quite a bit recently about how it seems there is a recession generally in the world. You are a company with many tentacles out there. Could you tell us what you see as the difference between different industries? You go through it a bit in the report, but especially compared to last quarter: What has become worse and what has become better?
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Erik Lundén2:29
Overall, it is quite similar, I would say, to what we have seen in the previous quarters during the year. What has been very strong, defense and energy continue to pace very strongly, while consumer-driven industries are having a tougher time. For us, the RV and trailer industry in the US is also a fairly large part of the American market, and it is still going tough. The bright spot we can see is that in kitchens and bathrooms, for example, we see improved figures, so that is positive. We also see indications that it will get better in what we call general industry, where customers and forecasts suggest that during the first half of 2025 there could be improvement. But overall, it is still a cautious market out there, that's how it is.
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Interviewer3:24
I understand. When I read back, I thought that in the previous quarter we talked about how we could see signs that general industry would turn. What happened? You are not alone in that Q3 seems to have been a disappointment when it comes to industry and that it seems a bit softer going forward.
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Erik Lundén3:42
Yes, disappointment... I would say it is difficult to predict now, it has been for a couple of quarters. So it is rather a shift, I would say. I still believe the indications we saw in the previous quarter in Q2 remain, with possibly a shift, as we see. So I think there are indications of a brightening if you look at customers' forecasts and so on. But a shift... simply, that's what we see.
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Interviewer4:09
And what do you think is needed for us to see this turnaround for real, for it to materialize.
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Erik Lundén4:17
There are several external factors that affect, both positively and negatively. It varies depending on which market we are talking about. At the core, I am positive. I believe, as I said, that there will be an improvement next year. But it is still challenging to say when it will hit. But that we are at a low, stable level that will gradually go up, we feel quite comfortable with when we see in our forecasts from customers... and in dialogue with customers we have.
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Interviewer4:51
You write in the CEO letter: 'China seems to have surprised positively.' What in China is going well now?
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Erik Lundén5:00
Above all, it is our company in China that is doing a great job, gaining market share and growing. China has been challenging, but we have managed to do a good job, it is a good team that succeeds in gaining market share. That is the main reason we have seen good growth in the quarter.
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Interviewer5:18
Finally, I wanted to discuss a bit about what you mentioned at the beginning, the cleanup you have done regarding these companies and the divestment of some. Is it done now, fully, and what can we expect going forward on the margin side?
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Erik Lundén5:34
Yes, the strategic change to divest what we call 'Manufacturing' is done. I am satisfied with that, we completed it in early July. What you can expect is that we will continue to work on moving from selling screws and nuts to selling value, what we call 'peace of mind'. That could be seen in a successively improved gross margin. The more value we create for our customers with our offering, the higher margin we should achieve in our books. I am satisfied with the journey we have made during the year. Great gross margin in Q3 as well. And my hope is that we can continue to work on and improve it. So I hope that. And then of course we will continue to hold costs but at the same time be able to invest, so we have had a situation where we have both accelerated and braked during 2024 and we will continue with that. For some companies, we see great potential in continuing to invest to gain market share. But in other companies, we continue to hold costs tightly and make adjustments. So on the margin side, I am positive about the future. We have set a target of 14% EBITA in 2026, and I think we, with this quarter, continue to take a step in the right direction to reach our long-term profitability goals.
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Interviewer6:54
Thank you very much. One very last question: Acquisitions going forward, how does it look?
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Erik Lundén7:04
It looks good. First of all, if we can continue to pay down our debt: Our debt-to-equity ratio of 2.4 is at a very good level. So we have a balance sheet that is ready for acquisitions. That is positive. And moreover, the activities in the market are at a completely different level than they were a year ago. So activity is high, and if an acquisition appears, we have the opportunity to strike. And that is part of our strategy. So the market looks better and better. And we are more and more ready. So it feels promising for the future.
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Interviewer7:37
It feels promising for the future. That can be your last words then. Thank you so much... for wanting to be here.
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Erik Lundén7:41
Yes, thank you very much.