Join former Governor Haley Barbour as he reflects on the life and legacy of Paul Gallo, a beloved figure in Mississippi talk radio. In this heartfelt conversation, Barbour shares personal stories and insights about Gallo's impact on the state and his ability to bring people together across political divides.
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5:45... the present when we're trying to think about memories of Paul Gallow, but if you could look a couple of years into the future and Paul Gallow's name comes up, what do you think the first thing you would think of is when you hear his name?
Good to be with you this morning on the Gallow radio show. It's been a lot of days on the radio, I've never been part of a program quite like the one that we have this morning, and it rolls on right now as we are remembering Paul Gallow, his life, his legacy, his time on the radio, and a lot of dear friendships that happened along the way. Former Governor Haley Barbour joins us this morning. Governor Barbour, always good to see you. I appreciate a few minutes of your time as we remember Paul Gallow this morning.
Well, a great man to remember. He was such a pathfinder in Mississippi. Well, at the same time, as Phil Bryant said earlier on your show, he was somebody we looked up to, somebody that made a difference, but at the same time his ego was in check. He wasn't full of himself. He was just good folks, and he did make a difference for Mississippi. I was elected governor in 2003 and went in in 2004, but I had worked with him while I was Republican National Committee chairman in the 1990s. And Phil was making the point that Paul was always very up to the facts. I mean, he knew what was going on. But that applied to the national government too. I mean, when Bill Clinton was president and I was national party chairman, we would talk on the Gallow show about what was going on in Washington, and you know, Hillarycare and gun control and all the things that people in Mississippi did not approve of from Bill Clinton.
You know, one of the things that has stood out is not everybody agreed with Paul. Sometimes people that were Republicans didn't agree with Paul, but especially on the other side. And yet he was able to find a way to a lot of times bridge that gap, and there ended up being mutual respect. We talked with Steve Holland earlier this morning. He said they didn't like each other, didn't like each other, and then one day they realized, you know what, this is pretty good radio, and there was a respect and a friendship that grew out of that. And Paul had the ability to do that. Well, he did. And you know, Steve was in the legislature when I was governor, but he and I went back to the 1978 Cochran for Senate campaign. He was already in the legislature, but he lived in Tupelo, and I got to know him during that. And you know, Steve came on a lot harder than he really was. I mean, he wanted to show how tough he was, but at the end of the day, he was for doing what he thought was best for Mississippi. And sometimes we agreed. He's the guy that told me that we need to reform Medicaid, that there were a whole lot of people on Medicaid that had been allowed to be put on there, and the legislature voted for me to trim Medicaid, and we took 60,000 people off the rolls and hardly noticed the difference. And Steve Holland deserves credit for that.
Governor, I think one of the things that you and Paul have in common is Mississippi mattered a great deal to you. You came home from Washington, D.C. and became governor and had that eight-year run that was so impactful for the state of Mississippi. You cared deeply for your home state. That's one of the things that nobody can ever question about Paul: he loved Mississippi and he wanted what was best for the state of Mississippi.
Well, no question about that. And I appreciate what you said about me. My family's been here on my daddy's side since right after the Civil War, and my mama's family were chalk dolls. We were here to meet the boat. So we go back so far. I mean, my great-great-great-great-grandfather was Walter Leake, who was the third governor of Mississippi, and Leake County is named for him. And so I'm proud of that. I'm proud of being from Mississippi. I'm proud of my service to Mississippi. But this is, to me, this is an easy place to want to help. Sometimes it is easy to help, but it's an easy place to want to help. And lots of people showed that after Katrina. We had nearly a million volunteers who came to Mississippi in the first five years and registered with some church or some charity or some organization. Nearly a million people. And I think Mississippians ought to be proud of that, that they were somebody that people from all over the country came and helped people they didn't know, and all they could remember when they left was how everybody said thank you.
Visiting with former Governor Haley Barbour as we remember Paul Gallow this morning. Paul passed away on Sunday afternoon surrounded by his family. Family is having a memorial service today, and then there's going to be a public service that we'll give you more details about coming up in the days to follow. Governor Barbour, I've asked or tried to ask each guest that we've had this morning, if you could look a couple of years into the future, not in the present when we're trying to think about memories of Paul Gallow, but if you could look a couple of years into the future and Paul Gallow's name comes up, what do you think the first thing you would think of is when you hear his name?
He was the incredibly successful pioneer of talk radio in Mississippi, and did it in a way that he was able to do it for 30 years and still had a gigantic audience, and still was somebody that you could turn on and expect to see some common sense.
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