Lena Gosberg23:16
Then we need to talk about inclusion and diversity. Ah, I mean that's also a trend in a way, but I don't know if I should ask you if you have ever felt not included in your... of course that happens to everybody everywhere, so that's awesome. But the after a while and you also know that Lena, after a while when you get so experienced, you don't think about it any longer, you just live with it. Maybe that's not good. No, but I think also that there has been a huge change in the industry the last 15, 10 years. For me it's completely different to come back also here to Volvo group, it has changed a lot and the way that we work and how we also see upon inclusiveness. We don't talk so much about diversity any longer, we talk about inclusiveness. We have three themes that we talk about when we are developing our culture now. It is of course inclusiveness for success because you need to make the best out of everybody. That I hear, it's so important because I mean whatever you come from, different backgrounds, different geographic, different religion, different gender, everything. And if you stop looking at your prejudice that you have, I also have that, I need to, everybody needs to work with that. But if you can get the best out of the team and also have everybody around, then you get the best, then you have grow to win. Because as we are making these technology changes, we also need to upskill, reskill, and also acquire new technologies and so on. And here's very much up, we work with the individual as well. I spent so much time and I've done that the last years now studying new technologies, new ways of working, because nothing is as it used to be. So I need to put myself on that and so does everyone else as well. And I think that's an individual responsibility. So we have also this learning page where you can also use the Volvo group University and find different trainings in different subjects, but we also do that from without external sources as well. And we acquire companies like we bought them, which is a battery company in Norway for example. And then we have the last one, which is also the most maybe sometimes the most important, that is courage to transform. You need to encourage with this because I mean you could actually wait or go somewhere else or and not do anything, look the other side and do it, continue to do what you are actually doing quite successfully. And that is the thing, when you have a successful company like Volvo Penta, we can continue to be very successful, we do not have to change the coming years. But if we should be here in the long run and if we should be successful in a couple of years, then we really need to change. And then we need to have the courage also to fail a bit, not be as successful maybe, but then also to find the new business models and the new customers and the new way of working. And that's courage. So those are the three.
I hope many people are listening to this episode. Yes, you need courage and to me that is also branding towards the next generation, yes, because we need to recruit the best people to this industry, yep. And we can't do that unless we do what you just said, have some courage. No, definitely. Really, and it's also I mean I know that you all have struggled many years for attracting young people to the marine industry, and I think how we're changing now, we are also high-tech companies. And we know also we talk a lot about employee branding and that's a bit, but it is important and that you also don't, you need to fill it also with true content. And I think nowadays we can actually do that also to attract younger generation with new skills. Because with this that I talked about, inclusiveness, the grow to win, and also the courage, all of that is actually part of that, that taking in new skills, mix it with the old business knowledge that we have, then we can leverage really well. I also think that if I can call them the greater generation, they are expecting us to do that, yes, otherwise they will not choose us or you as an employer. Definitely, we get so many questions around sustainability for the newcomers, and this is the way of measuring them, that you measure the financial performance but you also measure the sustainability part, so you can show true proof points that we're actually doing, putting a lot of investments in this. And that is also why people are attracted coming here now, because they see that we are doing a true change.