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Paolo D'amico
Chairman of the Board, d'Amico International Shipping

Class CNBC_Focus Trimestrali: d'Amico International Shipping Commento ai risultati 1° semestre 2023

🎥 Jul 28, 2023 📺 d'Amico Channel ⏱ 6m 👁 119 views
Intervista a Paolo d'Amico, Presidente e Amministratore Delegato di d'Amico International Shipping sui risultati del 1° semestre 2023
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Interviewer0:05
Welcome back to Quarterly Focus under the lens the accounts of the first half of D'Amico International Shipping, which were well appreciated by the market. The company, among the international leaders in the maritime transport of refined petroleum products, chemicals, and vegetable oils through tanker ships, achieved and we can see it in the chart a net profit of $99.8 million, strongly growing compared to the $19 million of the same period of the previous year 2022, and then net revenues of $205 million, also growing from the $118 million realized. We can also see it in the chart in the first half of the year. Then the group obtained an EBITDA of $142 million compared to the $62 million reached in the first half of last year. So we talk about it with Paolo D'Amico, Chairman of d'Amico International Shipping. Welcome back, good morning.
So you were looking at the data, they are definitely positive. So what drove your accounts and what message do you send to your shareholders after these results? It is a sum of things.
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Paolo D'Amico1:16
First of all, the fundamentals that we have been preaching for a long time: the fact that refineries are increasingly moving east while the consumption markets are essentially west, excluding China, of course, and this lengthens the routes. And the products that come out of the refineries have to travel more and to do the same quantity you need a higher number of ships. So demand already arises from the dislocation of the refining centers, and this is a process that has been going on for years and we had obviously already seen it. It is clear that we have a very strong input from this, from the Ukraine-Russia crisis because, as I said last time in the last call, Russia was the largest supplier of diesel to Europe. Europe closed purchases from Russia, so Russia by force of circumstances had to sell further away, so another excess demand. At the same time, Europe itself now goes to get its diesel from the Middle East or the United States, and also here we are talking about longer routes, not to mention that often it even buys in Korea or China. So the system has lengthened, the fleet has remained substantially the same because very few new ships are coming out for a series of reasons: one, the shipyards are full of orders for container ships and LNG carriers; two, we have a very great uncertainty about what will be the future fuels, so you must not think that a ship is operated for 15 years, but a life of over 20, and so there is the risk of building a ship that is already obsolete even if it is new, so yes.
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Interviewer3:40
98% on the stock. On June 16 you touched 3.80 euros per share, now you are more or less in line with this value. So do you still have room to run? If so, what forecast can you make for the end of the year?
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Paolo D'Amico3:54
The theoretical margins are all there because the book value of the company is 4 euros, so we are trading below book value, the NAV is over 6, so frankly all the elements are there to say that the value is all there. To make a forecast for the rest of the year, I feel like saying that it will be a good second half. We are currently living through the third quarter; normally the third quarter is the most sluggish, let's say the weakest, and yet we are seeing good demand and the ships are turning well, and we will have the fourth quarter which instead is normally the best, so I have no reason to think that there are particular dangers ahead of us. What the stock will do, I don't know.
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Interviewer4:52
What impact did the latest OPEC decision have? We recall that in June, OPEC Plus reached an agreement to extend production cuts to 2024, setting the new oil production target at 40 million barrels per day for next year. The next meeting will then be held on November 26 in Vienna. So what impact did this decision have on us?
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Paolo D'Amico5:17
For now, very little. It must be said that to OPEC we add the fact that Russia is actually starting to cut the half million barrels that it had been saying for months, but for the moment on the freight market itself there is no impact because evidently we are starting to eat into the inventories. This could also be a positive element in the future because normally stocks must be replenished and this will create a greater increase in ships to rebuild them. Clear.
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Interviewer5:56
Without the final comment, do you intend to strengthen the fleet or start M&A operations?
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Paolo D'Amico6:01
For the moment, it's clear, we look at everything, but even at this moment I would say that the situation is as it is, we don't see other elements of growth. We are currently focused on debt reduction and clearly on a better distribution of future dividends.
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Interviewer6:23
Paolo D'Amico, of d'Amico International Shipping, thank you for being with us for commenting on these accounts. Thank you. Thank you.