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Copart Investor Conference Call | New CEO Jay Adair Outlines Long-Term Strategy Priorities

🎥 Jul 06, 2026 📺 i101 ⏱ 36m 👁 44 views
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About Willis Johnson

Willis Johnson, founder and chairman of Copart, participated in the company's investor conference call on July 6, 2026, which was held to outline long-term strategy priorities under new CEO Jay Adair. Johnson noted that the call was the first time Copart had held a conference call between earnings releases in its 32 years as a public company. He stated that he was "very happy with where the company sitting" and that it had been "well operated," but added that to grow at a faster rate, the company would need to make changes in structure, organization, and personnel, including hiring from outside. During the call, Johnson discussed the expansion of Copart's Purple Wave division, which he said has been focused on expanding its territory sales force, primarily in the central time zone of the U.S., with plans to push to the coasts and then into secondary and tertiary markets. He said the company expects this strategy to continue through 2027. Johnson also expressed a view that "the consumer retrenchment is cyclical not structural."

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Transcript (69 segments)
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Operator0:00
Please stand by. Good day everyone and welcome to this Copart Incorporated conference call. Just a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. Before the call over to management, I will read a safe harbor statement. The company's comments today include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws, including management's current views with respect to trends, opportunities, and uncertainties. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties. More detail on the risks associated with the company's business, we refer you to the section titled Risk Factors in the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended July 31, 2025, and each of the company's subsequent quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. Any forward-looking statements are made as of the date of this call, and the company does not undertake to update any forward-looking statements. I will now turn the call over to the company's Founder and Chairman, Willis Johnson.
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Willis Johnson1:18
Good morning. I was reflecting the last time I did one of these calls was a couple of years ago, actually back in 1996. So I thought I'd give you a little background on myself. I know most of the people on this call, but for those who don't know me, I started with Copart 37 years ago in the summer of 1989, when Copart was a relatively small business. We went through a private equity, private fundraising period in 1993, and by 1994 we were publicly held. I had the pleasure of going on that roadshow, and it was my first time being in New York, so it was an interesting experience, an amazing experience. Within a couple of years, we were reserving Copart.com, and I was building out and spending most of my time building web pages and web products for Copart.com. By 1998, we had gone online, we had invented the first online bidding product. By 1999, we had vehicle images. I remember getting a call from Scott McE, who worked down in Silicon Valley, to see what we were doing, and he came up to Fairfield to see what the company was doing, taking so many images and changing the industry. By 2003, we had moved everything completely online. I built that product with our team, we patented it, and we would effectively be the only fully digital auction for the next 20 years. In 2004, we decided to expand outside the US by going to Canada, followed by the UK, then Spain, Germany, Brazil, the Middle East, and Ireland. I'll talk more about our growth, but I have a lot of background in international expansion with the company.
I guess first I'll start by talking about the CEO transition. Let me make it very clear: Jess and I worked together for 11 years, and I consider him a dear friend. I'm thankful to him for everything he did for this company as CFO, as President, as COO, and CEO. My return to CEO is something that Jeff and I decided on together. We both agreed it was the right thing for the company. My intent is to lead the company for the next 10-plus years. This is not an interim arrangement, and I won't be going through a process of finding my successor. I'm just going to focus and double down on all of our initiatives to build Copart and to grow Copart. There are really three growth pillars we focus on: international expansion, insurance and whole car expansion domestically, and technology services for customers. I want to be very clear: this is a growth company. There is a lot of noise and rhetoric out there, and I have a pretty good history of saying I don't listen to the noise and I don't respond to things, and I'm going to continue that. So I might be asked questions I won't answer because I don't want to answer, but at the end of the day, it's because we're going to focus on what it takes to win. I don't plan to put my playbook for winning out there publicly for my competitors to see.
I believe I know our customers personally, and I believe our customer relationships are stronger than ever. The idea that that is not the case is false. During our Q3 earnings call, we shared that total loss frequency reached approximately 23.6%, up 10 points over the years by repairs and by the record auction returns we generate, which make the total loss decision more attractive to carriers. When I started, total loss frequency was 8%, and we watched it continue to improve and increase over the decades, and we believe that will continue. Another point on our Q3 earnings call was that US insurance ASPs reached an all-time high in the most recent quarter, up approximately 4.1% year over year. International buyers, crossover buyers, and finance buyers continue to be critical drivers of our options. Our global buyer network now spans more than 160 countries.
I'll talk a little bit about the cyclical headwinds we're facing, but it's important to realize that we are not only the largest, you can look at all the activity on our website and see that we have the best auction platform in the industry. On cyclical headwinds, we are experiencing the impact of a cyclical and, in our view, unprecedented dislocation across the US insurance industry. The 2022 to 2024 inflation cycle pushed carrier combined ratios out of balance, driving rate increases, which drove consumers to pull back their level of insurance coverage, observed through a shift toward higher deductible and liability-only policies. I believe that is now softening, and we are starting to see insurance companies become more aggressive again. Much of this is from the 2020 COVID impact, the impact of insurers cutting dividends back and reducing insurance rates. Now we've seen the flip side of that in the past year or two, and I think we're going to see things normalize. We believe the consumer retrenchment is cyclical, not structural.
International momentum: we are going to ramp back up again. We had slowed historically as we were figuring out different models for the Copart model in Germany. We have figured that out now, we are profitable, and we know how to grow in that market. So we will be expanding in other international markets in Europe and other locations. International unit volumes grew 5.9% and international revenue grew 14.1% year over year in Q3 2026, with both insurance and non-insurance channels contributing. It's an area of significant focus for us as a team, and we will be, for lack of a better term, speeding that up as we go forward.
Looking at our balance sheet as of Q3 fiscal year 2026, we have nearly $4.2 billion of cash. This is after recently deploying $1.6 billion into share repurchases. We have no debt on the balance sheet to speak of. We believe we have the liquidity to continue to look at all strategic options available to us. Before I open it up to questions, I'll point out that Leah is here in the room with me, our CFO. So if there are questions that are financially focused, I'm going to let her answer those. We continue to deliver for our customers. We will continue to focus and be a customer-centric company. We continue to provide the best auction platform in the industry. I will tell you that I was never really left; I've been Executive Chairman, involved, and Jeff and I over the last two-plus years speak regularly, if not daily, multiple times a week. But I have dug in heavily in just the last week, and I'm excited and looking forward to the changes we're going to make. I'm not here temporarily; I'm here to stay, and I'm excited for everything we plan to do for this company. On that note, I'll open up for questions.
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Operator10:55
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your keypad. A confirmation will indicate your line is in the queue. You may start to remove your question from the queue. For participants, speakers may be necessary to cue your hands before.
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Analyst11:27
Good morning and welcome back to the calls. Thanks. How are you doing? Well, thank you to hear your voice. You've been active with the company, but we haven't talked in quite a while, so it's nice. You were really good at investor relations. So you are correct, I was not that engaged in that component, but good to hear your voice as well. Thank you. So, you know, thanks for the background. Obviously, we've known you guys forever. I wanted to get your thoughts on how AI is shaping the industry and how Copart is positioned and positioning themselves to excel. How do you see the industry evolving over the next 5 to 10 years, with the understanding that you don't want to give away too much of your playbook, but kind of big picture on that stuff?
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Willis Johnson12:14
It won't be 5 to 10 years; it's less than five. We think of AI in quarters, not years. It might be the only time in my life that I've thought in quarters and not years, but it's happening that quick. AI is something that if you're not doing it, you're missing out. We often refer to it. We've actually given guidance to our team on what tools are the best, and we often refer to AI as if you're not utilizing it, you're doing the company a disservice. There's a big focus internally. We have a head of AI, and that will continue. The obvious things are efficiencies, and we're doing that already. The less obvious is strategic, and I won't comment on that, but we are looking at strategic opportunities in AI as well.
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Analyst13:13
Okay, great. And then just kind of big picture, remind us in terms of your outline of priorities for growth, but how do you think about build versus buy given the fortress balance sheet you have? What are your thoughts there?
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Willis Johnson13:33
We're going to do both. We will be doing M&A, obviously, and we'll be building as well. As you all know, we're sitting on a ton of cash, and we have the ability to do both, so we will.
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Analyst13:48
Super. And then maybe last one, I'll certainly jump back in, but kind of in your mind, what do you think investors are missing on the Copart story now, and how can you guys get that best out there?
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Willis Johnson14:00
I think, you know, I never like to tell Wall Street what to think. But I think Copart is the best positioned company in the industry. From a competitive standpoint, we have the best service, the story, and at the end of the day, we're a phenomenal company. We've got amazing people, phenomenal relationships with our customers, and we're going to do what Copart has always done. We're just going to execute. We're not going to talk about it, we're not going to tell people what we're about to do, and when we do win, we're not going to tell people that we won. We're just going to do it. Let the results speak for themselves.
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Analyst14:45
Super. Welcome back and thanks. Thanks.
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Operator14:50
The next question comes from the line of Experience. Please proceed.
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Experience14:57
How are you? I'm good. Gary, how are you? Just fine. A while. Hey, couple of questions and welcome back to working with you again. Couple of questions here. Well, one question: you talked about the changes that you're going to implement. Does that really revolve around the growth pillars: international, salvage car, US, and tech services customers?
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Willis Johnson15:25
It does, yeah. We're going to be speeding up some of those initiatives. And to do that, we'll have more team.
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Experience15:36
So in terms of starting that whole process, how long does it take? You've been in leadership for about a week now. How long does it take for you to reinvigorate that?
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Willis Johnson15:48
I think everyone in the company is excited. I think they're already feeling like, let's go do some of these things. So it's going to take me time to, you know, we're promoting people already, but it's going to take time to hire people. So it's not years, it's quarters, but it's going to take some time.
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Experience16:12
That's great. And then just in terms of what's going on in the industry, the cyclical headwinds, in terms of the consumers actually repairing their cars versus just getting a check. Do you think that if the premiums just continue to stabilize, you'll see a shift, or do we have to see more downtrend in the policy cost for a consumer for them to step up and get a car?
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Willis Johnson16:42
I think as things normalize, people will get coverage again. I just think when insurance rates get that outrageous, it causes people to drop their coverage and go with liability only. And I think as rates come back down, people will say, oh, it's only X dollars a year more, go ahead and get me the full coverage.
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Experience17:06
And then one last quick question. You've gone through a pretty strong exercise of buying land over the last couple of years. Are you at the point now where you don't need to buy any more land, particularly for catastrophic events, and you can shift resources to your three growth pillars in a bigger way?
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Willis Johnson17:27
Yeah, we've got an amazing network of locations, not just the number of locations but the number of acres per location. So I think we're in a good spot. We have to do a little bit of development still, and we have a little bit to add, but nothing like what you saw in the last 10 years. The last 10 years was just half a billion a year in buying land and developing those locations. That's definitely going to slow down.
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Experience17:55
Thank you so much.
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Willis Johnson17:57
Thank you.
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Operator18:00
The next question comes from the line of Davis. Please proceed.
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Davis18:11
Thanks for the time here. I wanted to ask you one on Purple Wave. I know that Jeff had a strategy on the expansion there. How are you thinking about the go-to-market strategy for this segment? Is it reasonable to think that some of your more recently acquired land is going to perhaps be targeted more towards supporting heavy equipment? I just want to get some of your thoughts there.
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Willis Johnson18:37
Yeah, I mean, we've already got access to our locations for Purple Wave. I think, you know, I am focused right now on international and domestic Copart. I'll focus on that next. I can give you a better answer in a quarter. Leah is here, she's happy to give you her response. I just have not been that close to it.
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Leah19:02
I think what we've primarily focused on with respect to Purple Wave has been the expansion of the territory sales force, and that was foundational to our ability to serve enterprise accounts. As we think about the continuation of the expansion strategies for Purple Wave, it will be principally focused on the execution on that front. And again, it is domestically focused. So we're effectively taking a sales team with territory coverage primarily in the central time zone of the US and pushing it out to the coast, initially focusing on the areas where the highest GMV exists. And as we're successful in those markets, continue to further penetrate into some of the secondary and tertiary markets. So that is our current strategic roadmap that we're executing on with respect to Purple Wave, and we would expect that to continue through 2027.
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Davis19:59
Got it. That's helpful. And then I know you spoke to it, J. Domestically, maybe just some brief thoughts on where you're most excited, some of the unturned stones that you think are going to help support the next leg of growth. Just maybe one or two pieces or thoughts there.
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Willis Johnson20:15
Well, it's historically been a nice growth engine for Copart. I'd like to see that increase dramatically. To do that, we're looking at restructuring and we're looking at some other strategic moves that would help that. But the intent, I'm not going to tell you exactly how we're going to get there, but I'll tell you that the goal is that it looks very different in two to four quarters.
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Davis20:41
Got it. Thank you.
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Operator20:46
The next question comes from the line of Repaired. Please proceed.
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Repaired20:52
Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. J, good to hear from you as well. Hey, good to hear you. Yeah, I'm doing great. Thank you for taking my question as well. You know, you mention the three growth pillars: international, whole car domestic, and tech services. Where do you need to invest the most in terms of resources, and how do you intend to fund that? Is it a reallocation, or could you be looking at an era of investment before we start to see the returns on the bottom line?
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Willis Johnson21:30
Well, I think we've got to focus on M&A. We're going to be doing M&A. We've got to invest in making some of the products we've got already more robust. So it's hard for me to tell you it's a third or 40/20, but I will tell you they're all going to be material investments.
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Repaired21:57
And when you look at your own M&A, what sort of lessons do you lean on in terms of what makes successful M&A within Copart?
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Willis Johnson22:11
If you look historically, all of the M&A has been in our industry. They've been acquisitions that made sense. They plug into our business, utilize our land, our auction technology, our knowledge. And so we're going to continue to do that. We're not going to go out and buy something that has nothing to do with our industry. It's no secret, you guys know how we think about ROI. So we will be disciplined, focused on making sure we're getting the right return on investments. But it's to buy and to build in our respective industries, not to jump into something totally different.
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Repaired22:56
And then just thinking about your balance sheet, any of us who have read 'Junk to Gold' know your aversion to debt, but is that still true? Could you lean into the balance sheet to do the right deal and take on some debt?
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Willis Johnson23:11
To do the right deal, I would take on some debt.
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Repaired23:16
Well, thanks. Look forward to working with you again, J.
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Willis Johnson23:20
Yeah, you too, C.R. Look forward to it.
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Operator23:24
The next question comes from Jordan.
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Jordan23:28
Hey, good morning. Good morning, J. I guess when you think about the margin profile, in the last few years you've added some operating expense for CDS and whole car and Purple Wave. Are we going to start leveraging that in the nearer term, or is there another phase of investment to get to the end game? Obviously you're talking a lot of growth and maybe some hiring, but how do we sort of think about the cadence of SG&A growth in the last years versus leveraging that maybe in the next year or two?
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Willis Johnson24:02
It's not an easy answer because I think we can leverage it, but I don't want to be pigeonholed. So I'm going to tell you, I think we can leverage it, but I'm not going to make a statement like that on a call and then stop me from making a good long-term decision to invest in the company. So that would be my intent, but if something comes up that I see I need to make the investment to grow even faster, I will. And when we talk about growth, our growth is the right kind of growth. You don't see us growing and doing enormous volume and not bringing that to the bottom line. So given that, I would say I think we can leverage it, but I would leave our options open.
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Jordan24:40
All right, that's fair. Thank you.
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Analyst 224:52
Thank you for my question. Welcome back. I wanted to ask a question about the timing of all of this. I appreciate all the initiatives, but maybe dig in a little bit more on why in July of 2026 is this happening, and the impetus of the timing right now.
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Willis Johnson25:15
Well, from a timing standpoint, I'm not technically CEO yet. We're going to transition that at the end of the month. I was back and forth with Jeff this morning. So it's all coming, and I'm digging in, but I'm digging in in a very short period of time compared to being in an Executive Chairman role. I think it was the right thing to do. Jeff and I had these conversations, and as I said, we're friends – he lives maybe 10 houses down from where I live. At the end of the day, I have enormous respect for him, and he does for me. None of that changes. But what was decided in our conversations was for me to get back involved and start to drive the company as CEO. So that's what we decided.
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Analyst 226:08
Understood. And then just you talked about competitive set and not putting your cards on the table about what the playbook is, but trust us, you've got a playbook. Curious your thoughts on while you've kind of taken a retreat, your competitor has obviously changed and evolved with new owners and all those things. What do you think the biggest differences are in terms of how you're competing with them? Have they stepped up a little bit to you guys in terms of service and attention, or as you look at your competitor, maybe just talk to us how you feel the landscape has changed a little bit.
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Willis Johnson26:50
Yeah, I think they've spouted some rhetoric that's out there in the marketplace. I haven't seen where the products have dramatically changed. But you know, historically, you can go back and listen to 30 years of transcripts from me, and you're not going to see me talk about my competitor a lot. So I'm not going to change that. Copart has, just in the last year, invested in a number of initiatives that we're working on, just like we had a decade ago and two decades before that. Online bidding started in 1998, that's almost 30 years ago. When you think about digital auctions and virtual bidding, we were signing people on to AOL and they were dialing in to be able to bid in our auctions. I mean, we have tried to be very cutting edge, not bleeding edge, and we continue that. We continue to have differentiators in the space. I look at a number of our products, and they are significantly better today than they were a year ago, and we're going to double down on those initiatives. So there will be a little more spending, but it will drive the business forward.
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Analyst 228:10
Thanks.
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Operator28:15
The next question comes from the line of Stevens. Please proceed.
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Stevens28:19
Good morning, thanks very much for taking my question. I was wondering, you talk about the narrative that's developed, which I think is primarily the simple narrative: if you look at your competitor's units which are positive and your insurance units or different units that you disclose are negative, it looks like you're losing share. But when you dig in, whether you look at the progressive or the underinsured/uninsured, maybe it isn't the case. Could you perhaps expand on anything that you're looking at, whether you want to talk about pure salvage or how investors should focus on Copart and see that you're going in the right direction, and maybe not focus on the differential between units?
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Willis Johnson28:55
Yeah, I mean, there is a unit loss. There was an account that was lost in some ways, and in some ways Copart chose not to do business. That has historically happened, and I won't mention the company. I don't view that as some fundamental change in the relationship we have with all of our clients. If you look at the rest of our clients, we have great relationships with them. They recognize us for delivering not just the service but the liquidity, and being not just the largest but the best place for them to liquidate their vehicles. If we didn't have the kind of liquidity we're talking about, we couldn't be growing all the non-insurance business, we couldn't be growing all the dealer volume. These are folks that would look at that and say, why would we give you more cars unless you're getting the return? So there has been that, but I don't think that's going to continue throughout the organization. I think Copart has the ability to win that business back, and I suspect over time you'll see that kind of behavior. You'll see us winning business. So that's our plan.
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Stevens30:27
And then on the whole car front, the one asset you appear to have is the ability to take your international buyer base and liquidity and offer that to the dealers and the commercial sellers. Is that an area you think you guys would incrementally focus on and try to build relationships that way?
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Willis Johnson30:48
We have historically, but you said dealers and whole car, but it's also insurance. We were the first to build an international base. That was back in the 90s. I remember seeing Belarus and other countries coming into our website first, and then it got to a point where I was looking up to see where countries were from because there were so many different countries buying at Copart. Not just the fact that we've been marketing and working that for 30 years, but the fact that we have Middle Eastern presence, European presence, Eastern European presence – all of that is part of what drives that buyer base and that buyer liquidity. And yeah, we'll continue to do that. We're not going to move away from that. It's a big differentiator for our sellers to see where those vehicles are selling to when we actually sell them.
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Stevens31:51
Just an educational point of view, how does an insurer become the owner of record of a whole car? I thought the transmission mechanism is a salvage title transfers to them. They don't really become – when we talk about whole car, we're talking about non-insurance, so we're talking about banks, finance companies, and things like that. Insurance is going to be a damaged vehicle for the most part.
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Willis Johnson32:06
Correct. Whole car is non-insurance, so it's banks, finance companies, etc. Insurance is damaged vehicles.
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Analyst 332:31
All right. Good morning and thanks for taking my questions. I guess just the first is on really overall strategy. I was wondering how much as you're focusing on growth, you're thinking about the salvage auction business versus some of the other areas like international, whole car, and tech. And if you could just broadly talk about where perhaps more emphasis is needed, that would be helpful.
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Willis Johnson33:01
Yeah, like I said earlier, the focus is going to be on international, on growing the existing core business, and on technology. For me to break it out, I can't break it out and tell you a third, a third, a third. That is the focus. The team at Copart have heard me say before, I can't remember four or five or six things, three things. FBI, CIA, I can remember three things. So when we talk about our growth, those are going to be the three pillars and the three legs, and that's going to be the focus. We are not a rigid organization; we're a flexible organization, and we will flex as we need to put more effort into one area versus another.
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Analyst 333:40
Okay, got it. And I just want to go back to the M&A side of things. Are you thinking about something that, and again recognizing it's probably still early and you're probably not even at the point where you're really looking at things, but do you envision doing something that may be transformative, something that's more tuck-in? How do you kind of envision going forward?
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Willis Johnson34:01
We're going to focus on things that fit our industry. We're not going to be going outside of our industry.
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Analyst 334:09
And then just last question before I pass it over. Now that you're coming in, do you think that there is more need for a strategy shift here? Do you think there is need for changes on the operational front? I was wondering if you could talk about that.
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Willis Johnson34:26
Yeah, happy to talk about that. The operation seems amazing. I mean, we've got amazing systems, people, and all of our facilities we've continued to invest in over the last decade, let alone the last year. So they're great. I feel very happy with where the company is sitting. It has been well operated, and there's nothing I can say that I'm displeased with. I'm very happy with everything. But if you're going to grow at a faster rate, it does take some changes with respect to structure, people, organization, how we move people around the organization, hiring some people from the outside. So in that regard, we'll be making some changes.
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Analyst 335:13
Thank you. All right, thanks.
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Willis Johnson35:16
I think that's it, isn't it?
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Operator35:21
No further questions? Is that right?
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Willis Johnson35:33
I appreciate that. Thank you. I'm going to look forward to the earnings call when we come. I think it was just important for us to do this call. It's the first time Copart has ever done a call between earnings releases in 30 years, 32 years as a public company. But we just felt it was important for you to hear some of this and not wait until the actual quarter comes out. It was a pleasure to talk to you all again, hear voices that I haven't heard in a while, and look forward to reporting on the quarter and the year in the coming months. Leah and I will have a lot to tell you then. So thanks for your time today, guys. We appreciate you, and we'll sign off. Bye bye.
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Operator36:19
Thank you for today's conference.