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Vandita Pant
Chief Financial Officer, BHP Group

Interview: BHP's CFO on the Big Australian's $8b profit

📅 Feb 20, 2025 Fear & Greed 10 MIN 15 VIEWS 12 SEGMENTS · 3 SPEAKERS
BHP this week turned in a disappointing underlying profit of $8 billion for the second half of last year, off lower iron ore exports due to reduced steel demand from China. But increasingly, for BHP at least, the future is in copper. Vandita Pant, BHP’s Chief Financial Officer, talks to Juliette Saly from Ausbiz about the result and the outlook for the Big Australian. Ausbiz is Australia's leading provider of live and on-demand video of the latest news in Australian business, markets, economy and startups. Sign up for free at ausbiz.com.au (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://a...) You can...

Questions asked in this interview

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  1. 0:50Can you talk us through why that is?
  2. 3:41So does that mean that you see more of a shift of the business to assets like copper and potentially away from iron ore, or from Western Australia to places like Chile?
  3. 7:33Do you have anything to say about losing your mantle as the biggest listed stock by market cap to the likes of CBA?
  4. 8:45What do you say about productivity?
Shawn Elma 0:05 ↗
Welcome to the Fear and Greed Business interview. I'm Shawn Elma. BHP this week turned in a disappointing underlying profit of $8 billion for the second half of last year. It also cut its dividend to its lowest level in 8 years with weaker demand for steel out of China hurting BHP's iron ore exports. But increasingly for BHP, at least, the future is in copper, a theme that certainly comes through in today's interview with Vandita Pant, BHP's Chief Financial Officer. She spoke this week to our partners at Osiz, Australia's leading provider of live and on-demand video of the latest news in Australian business, markets, economy, and startups. Sign up for free at osiz.com today.
Juliet S 0:50 ↗
Well, let's get more into those results, Vandita, because underlying profit was down 23% and your dividend at an 8-year low, in fact the bare minimum in your shareholder policy. Can you talk us through why that is?
Vandita Pant 1:04 ↗
Yeah, let me talk through the results, Juliet. Financially and operationally, both very strong performance. From operations perspective, volume was up 5% and as I was saying, cost down 4% at unit cost level. Western Australia IO continued to be the leading iron ore business in the world. BMA in Queensland, production up 14%. And copper this half grew 10%, contributing 40% to EBITDA. All that delivered a net operating cash flow of more than 8 billion this half, which on a run rate basis is more than 15 billion that we have generated in all bar one of the past 15 years. The stability is really the hallmark for BHP and really valued by our investors. The dividends that we have declared are 50 US cents per share, that's 79 Australian dollar cents, that is $2.5 billion US Dollars. And we have continued to prosecute on our attractive organic growth options. From a dividend perspective, I would say since our capital allocation policy was put in place around eight years back, we have returned 83 billion US in cash returns to our shareholders. But equally, we are a long-term company and so are our shareholders, and on their behalf we are investing in growth on commodities like copper, like I mentioned. While ore continues to be a fantastic business for us, with lowest cost in the industry for the fifth year in running, we also have copper growth now coming through in these results with 40% EBITDA contribution, and this is just the start because we have a fantastic area of very attractive investment opportunities for copper here in Australia, in Chile, Argentina, and in the US, and all that we are going to be investing in for value for our shareholders while being very cognizant that dividends are really important to our investors, and that's why we have at least minimum 50% payout ratio as a policy.
Juliet S 3:41 ↗
So does that mean that you see more of a shift of the business to assets like copper and potentially away from iron ore, or from Western Australia to places like Chile?
Vandita Pant 3:53 ↗
So what I would say is that iron ore is a fantastic business for BHP and continues to be and will be. And in fact, as I mentioned, not only are the lowest cost producer. Last financial year we generated $8 more in cash per ton of iron ore compared to the nearest competitor in Pilbara. But equally, as per our strategy, we have the aspiration for more and more future facing commodity exposure in our portfolio, and copper is that commodity with multi-users, with demand and supply dynamics which are very positive, which has a positive outlook. And we are the largest resource holder of copper in the world, first or second producer of copper in the world. And now, by end of June we would have delivered 24% growth in last three years just on copper. A fantastic place to be, and some more growth as I said to come. And that is an exposure we are looking to add. And I should also mention we have potash business in Canada which again is going to be producing its first tons by end of next calendar year, will come in at the lowest end of the cost curve, and is a multi-decade asset which will be generating lots of cash and returns for our shareholders. So very excited about our growth portfolio and the portfolio shaping that is happening.
Juliet S 5:37 ↗
Vandita, no major changes to guidance expectations over the four year or the medium term. I just want to get your thoughts though, when we talk about iron ore with the weakness of the price and the expectations that the commodity could fall under further pressure in 2024, 2025, excuse me, especially as we look at the concerns over a potential trade war between the US and China and how that could affect your business.

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Pant, V. (2025, February 20). Interview: BHP's CFO on the Big Australian's $8b profit [Interview transcript]. Fear & Greed. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1132453/

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  title        = {Interview: BHP's CFO on the Big Australian's $8b profit},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, Fear \& Greed. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2025},
  month        = {feb},
  url          = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1132453/},
  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
}