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Welcome everybody. This is a very new format for us. We have twice as many people here in the room as last year and it's the first time we're doing a webcast. So this means that a few of the aspects here are a bit of a hybrid format. And the way the day will roll is we're going to do a few rounds of presentations and then we're going to host an event format that we've done internally a lot which we call the AI marketplace because one of the questions and one of the feedback we've gotten, we got a lot of questions around the impact of AI and software businesses and we felt the best way to explain to you and kind of align your thinking with our thinking is to just actually show you what we do. This is going to happen after the event for the webcast participants. So you can participate, we will do brief kind of round of fire introductions to the project that we are presenting right at the very end. So you will get a glimpse of it. A downside of that format or an upside if you're here is that it gives us a lot of room for Q&A with a lot of people from chapters here in person. So any question you possibly have about our business you can ask here today. Now that's obviously not really possible if you are dialing in. So what we suggest to everybody who's dialing in, if you have any questions and you want any deep dives, get in touch with Andreas after the capital markets day and we will put you in touch with whoever you want to talk to in person and we can do one-on-one sessions again. You're probably wondering why do I have an orange dot? The reason is that I forgot the chapters lanyards. So an impromptu way to identify everybody who's working for chapters. Everybody who has a dot on their collar in different colors from the presentation kit next door is working for chapters group and you have all the liberty to approach these people and the two of you are getting dots as well. Sorry. And ask all the questions. This is going to be open-ended. We will only leave if the last of you leaves and you can ask all the questions that you want. So let's start with where we are.
This is a really interesting inflection point of the business. What you see on the left is the cut of the business in 2023. The business was about half software. We had a small investment in a business called Fentiva and a pretty big chunk of the group was still in what we call other today. So businesses that are not software or financial services. Now in 2023, as you know and as we talked about the last couple of years, we made some hard decisions on how we want to transform the business, how we want to look like, and more importantly what we don't want to do, and the result you see here. So our software groups of public sector and enterprise have grown substantially both in relative share and also in the absolute size of the business, and also our financial technology segment which is not only the FIPA business but two other businesses, Expatri and Coral, that we acquired and now a very substantial part of the group. And importantly, because it seems so minor, what we have left in other is actually one of the more exciting businesses that we have seen and one of the more AI forward businesses that we have in the group with Stefan here presenting today. So I think we've truly transformed the group. Now this is continuing and I want to point out one specific example in my presentation that will work as a proxy to explain how we think about building a business, and that's our financial technology segment, and I will use that as an explanation and you will derive a lot of conclusions for our software group from that. So this is our indicative split of revenues between financial technologies and the public sector and enterprise VMS. So you see the piece of the pie of the financial technology segment increasing in 26 over 25. But what might not be so intuitive or which might not be well understood is that if we look at profitability, this is actually a very big part of our profitability at this point. And at least for us, Malain and I and the board, this happened very quickly. It was clearly intended and this is why we did the moves that I will walk you through in a second. But still it's important to reflect on how the group is changing and where the gravitas of the group is today.
When I personally got started in building Chapters, I'm an investor at heart, right? So the natural tendency is to get started with an investment holding mindset. Very influenced by Warren Buffett, very decentralized, thinking like an investor only. That's how we really got started at the beginning. I always say we want to build an operating system built on autonomy. Really at the beginning it was built on anarchy, well-functioning anarchy, well-performing anarchy, but really not just a loose collection of businesses. And the real insight we had, and that really started in 2023 with one of our largest shareholders who brought us that idea, was to say there is actually something more you can do, which is not to be just a capital allocator of businesses but you can actually build a group that is worth more than the sum of the parts because you're actually improving the businesses that you are running, and if they join part of the group, they become worth more. And today we want to explain to you how that works. One phrase we use internally is we're trying to build industry standards. So historically we have acquired businesses, in particular in the software space, as long as the recurring revenue is good and the churn is low and it's a very well-defined niche in a vertical we would acquire that business. And I think over time we've both because we have built almost by accident certain industry clusters, but also because we've seen the benefits of building these little platforms in specific industries. We have some good traction of building industry standards and high conviction that that's what we want to do in the future. And I want to walk you through one example where this played out particularly well.
So you see the split format. It's a bit of a more sleek design now, but the numbers are the same from the annual report. The three segments I want to touch on are the financial technology which you know as the segment with the three brands in Oracle and XPro, that's how we presented this in the past. Now you also know me that in all of my slides and all of my presentations with the team or investors, I always talk about the three values that we have. I will spare you that right now. But I will talk about one that I hold most dear in my heart, which is we grow together. And I always talk about the story of you know like you see a pie on the table and there are two different types of people. One person sees it and says, 'Oh listen, how can I optimize my largest slice of the pie and how can I eat most of the pie?' The other type of person says, 'Okay, listen, how can I optimize for this?' Now, at the beginning of the year, I thought about hiring a chief of staff. Now, we don't really have any office space left, so I decided not to hire a chief of staff. So I trained Claude, the chief of states agent, and uploaded all of my thinking and how I communicate in my presentations. And for this presentation, I asked Claude to the point I'm now going to make to put that into a graphic incorporating these values. I think the result is absolutely terrible, but I want to share it with you because that's what AI does. So this is what AI came up with. The situation we found in the blocked account space was a zero-sum opportunity, right? You had three companies competing for one piece of pizza, three dogs, it's mine. No mine, back off, it's mine. Both losing dogs leave hungry. I think what we achieved, and now the magic of AI happens, is this. So the dogs are now a lot more proactive. They're wearing shaft hats. More pizza, more fun, more wins. Every dog leaves full and happy. What does it mean? It means if you essentially canalize the energy that you had on what is there, it very much limits your thinking. And when you canalize the idea of growing the pie, this is where the real magic starts. And I want to be specific on that opportunity in financial technology.
Now, what's our business doing? This is Chat GPT. If you type in Chat GPT 'I need a blocked account in Germany,' that's the product we are providing. So it's a special requirement for the visa process. You need a blocked account and you need insurances around that, and the three businesses provide that. ChatGPT gives you this result. You can go to those four players: UA and Coral, or you can go to Deutsche Bank. In 2025 we had enough capital to consolidate three of the four, which we did. So grace grace grace grace for impact. And really what this created is that historically the entire market structure always focused on essentially two products. It was the blocked account and insurance. And there was a lot of competition. There was a lot of marketing spend. There was a lot of fighting. And it was really fighting around that one pizza piece. And I think what got lost in that process is that misses the entire point because 50% of international students coming into Germany stay for longer than 5 years. 50% stay for longer than 5 years because they find love or work or both. Those are usually people that come to Germany to study and then find good jobs here and they have no prior relation in any financial services in Germany, and the first entry point with financial services in Germany is us. And it's kind of obvious that the big opportunity and the big prize at the end of the rainbow is to change perspective and essentially become the partner for all financial products for internationals in Germany for the duration of their stay, which in many cases is forever. Now what we achieved with that market consolidation is that you got to imagine they had developer teams that were building the same product to be competitive three times over. So everybody needed a certain product and you build it three times because everybody needed to offer the product. So you can use the same development resources and you can build three different products that you can monetize, which sounds very trivial, but it's just how this works. And we are now essentially resetting the focus of this business away from 'this is a blocked account insurance business' to 'this can actually become a really end-to-end financial partner', and in the future, that business that you see at the top of the water to essentially become the funnel to something much larger.
Now this probably as an investor sounds all super sensical and it makes a lot of sense, but I want to share some of the operational pickups and decisions you got to make and also some of the opportunities that we found in doing it. So when we combined the businesses about a year ago in May of 25, the thesis we had at the time was to essentially keep the three businesses separate, migrate one quicker than the two others, and then over time figure out what the platform strategy should be. The idea was also to approach a mindset to kind of learn the best strengths from all businesses and from all platforms and make a best-of-all-worlds approach, and kind of go slowly and with a measured approach and take our time to figure out what the target operating model is. Now the philosopher Mike Tyson said everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face because operations happened. So what we found out is the teams did not get along at all. It's not to blame, that's something that you see. What we saw is we had very different standards of compliance, IT processes, efficiency across the business. It's like very different. We found out that in one of the businesses which we ended up shutting the brand off, there were some really serious compliance issues with how they ran the business. And this is a product where you must absolutely not screw up. Right? So those are people from Pakistan borrowing money from their family, so wire it to Germany to us in the hope of a new future in Germany. And in that process, we got to make sure that we don't channel any people into Germany that don't belong here, that we don't lose any money along the way, we don't lose any data along the way. All these things got to be top-notch. And the zero mistake tolerance is zero. It was a regulated business. The state tolerance is absolutely zero.
Now some of the founders, some of the businesses saw this differently and we had to make changes. Now what we also saw and you start out with the announcement, the idea was for Bastion who many of you know to become for at Chapters Group and essentially run this group, which he did at the beginning. Now Bastion also became a father at the time and his wife got really ill very quickly with a newborn at home, and I made the decision I said listen, you're out immediately, I take over, you do your thing, this is more important. They're fine now by the way, but they were like it looked differently at the time. So last September I was in a situation where I said okay, I got various compliance problems, I got an incoherent IT strategy, I get teams that don't really work together, and we got to find a way. So come in, manuscript method, and the way we run things. So what I did, I essentially everything starts with a strategic plan. So you come up with an idea of how should the business look like in three years, what are the big drivers, what are the really big value drivers, how the business can move to the next level, and we use a tool that is called policy deployment to track progress against that. That's not something that gets adopted overnight. You need to teach policy deployment and you need to put the processes in place and you need to convince the team and you need to fight the right level of engagement. That needed to happen while at the same time figuring out how the team structure is going to work. Now I got really positively surprised because some of the talent that naturally I didn't know before, in particular at Expatrio, in particular Toby who some of you know, Toby Fisher, the now CEO of the group, really impressed me not only by their personality but also with the approach they had, because the mindset they had and which we now adopted, and I've grown a lot of confidence that this is how you can run situations like this. Now AI plays a role to say listen, let's get to target operating model just way quicker. We had a lot of, I mean maybe we're a little shy, maybe we're a little cautious, we haven't done it before, but we were just giving this time and I think we were just delaying a decision. And at that point, a really big driver was the CTO of that business, guy called Pablo, who's amazing, who came up with a strategy to say listen, we're going to streamline the IT stack mainly through AI build development, and this is going to happen within months, not within years. And that's what we ended up doing. So I appointed new leadership, we changed the plan, put new leadership in place, put new incentives in place, we have a strategic plan, we implemented policy deployment, and we started executing much quicker than we initially thought. And this is what we ended up doing. So it used to be a three brand strategy, is now a two brand strategy.
What used to be two and a half platforms over time migrating became one platform quickly and this just creates so many efficiencies. I mean in theory nobody would disagree, right? So in theory nobody would disagree that that's the right strategy, but in practice this is really hard to execute because you have a lot of people who care about the worlds that they have created in the businesses and they want to treasure that, which is very human, right? But you got to change the mindset to this is what we have done. In the past it used to be Fintiva, Expatrio, Coral, but there's now a new way. It's not about whether you are better or worse, but it's all about how's the target operating model and how can we get there. And this did work out and I think it's an amazing inspiration for how we think about industry standards. A logical consequence of that is also that in future presentations we will not say this is a financial technology segment with three brands called Fintiva, Expatrio, Coral, but there's a group name which is Lumra, which we implemented in December. So going forward you will have to get used to this graphic which is the financial technology segment with a big part is the Lumra group. Why do I tell you this story? I tell you the story because this is a big part of our Chapters identity and the genesis is really interesting. This started as a minority investment, 20% stake, May 2021 in a tiny business, and this has now become an industry standard, the best compliance standard for students into Germany, and a huge driver of organic growth. And I think that's the inspiration we want to have. So this business is going to do fine, right? It's going to grow. The efficiencies are not nearly like, we will have another period of significant efficiencies in front of us. But this is really much more. This is an inspiration of what we can do in so many parts also in the software group, and we've already started this. So there are already some of those early clusters simmering where we have already a couple of companies that are doing something similar, and the idea is now for us to scale this and replicate what we've done here. And the big reason, that's one of the big reasons why we quote unquote have to adjust our guidance is because the execution versus the initial plan is just happening a lot quicker than we originally thought. And this is also the reason why you're doing this, because this is driving organic growth. And usually people think when they think about consolidation, they think about pricing, but they think about the platform synergies. So that's true. But also what's even more true and what's even more relevant is you can just serve the customer so much better. You can just use your development resources and you can use all the resources you have to really redefine an industry and become a true industry standard. And we've done this once.
I think the financial results, probably not super obvious last year, are now becoming increasingly clear. And the vision I have, or what gets me really excited, is that one day we stand here and we reflect on how the financial technology segment is in absolute numbers dramatically larger than it is today, but hopefully in relative terms something else is much bigger. And I think that's the story of Chapters over the last couple of years. I want to give you another example. So, it's usually very hard for people to make decisions around how something may look like in a year, and people focus mainly on what is here today. And what we do with the team and what we do within our board communication is always reset focus on where are we going towards and not where we are coming from. Because what really matters last year is the decision that the pie chart that you saw around profitability is just a lot larger share in one segment. That's the messaging here. And what gets me really excited is to stand here next year, maybe next year is a bit ambitious, but maybe in two years, stand here and show you a much larger pie chart with larger actual numbers in financial technologies, and hopefully a nice large who knows what's going to be, software. So thank you very much. Now you have all the good story and I'm handing over to Maline for the hard numbers.