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Arthur Sulzberger
Chairman of the Board & Publisher, NEW YORK TIMES CO -CL A

Arthur O. Sulzberger Jr. on Charlie Rose (11/27/2001) Part 1

📅 Aug 20, 2026 ChenowethRules 15 MIN 65 VIEWS 52 SEGMENTS · 3 SPEAKERS
Recorded from WOSU in Columbus. All copyrights acknowledged.

What Arthur Sulzberger said

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Arthur Sulzberger, chairman and publisher of The New York Times, discussed the paper's 150th anniversary and its response to September 11. He said the company is 'agnostic as to methods of distribution,' defining itself by news, not paper, and that the core mission is to create, collect, and distribute high-quality news, information, and entertainment. He noted the biggest year-to-year advertising drop since 1938, yet emphasized the family's constancy of purpose. Sulzberger described Howell Raines taking over as editor five days before the attacks, the creation of the temporary 'A Nation Challenged' section, and the scramble to cover Afghanistan, citing journalists with regional knowledge and preparedness on bioterrorism. He argued the paper's power is to inform and empower others, and that using power diminishes it.

Key takeaways

  1. The New York Times defines itself by news, not paper, and is agnostic to distribution methods.
  2. The company faces its biggest year-to-year advertising drop since 1938.
  3. Howell Raines became editor five days before September 11, and the paper was ready due to a well-trained team.
  4. The 'A Nation Challenged' section is temporary and will revert to sports once the story ends.
  5. The paper had no one in Afghanistan initially but scrambled with journalists who knew the region and issues.

Numbers and commitments

FigureWhat it refers toTypeAt
150 years Anniversary of The New York Times timeline 0:59
1938 Last year with a bigger advertising drop metric 5:39
2 and 1/2 months Time since September 11 at recording timeline 5:07

Chapters

  1. 0:00Publisher's office and tradition
  2. 2:45Power and empowerment
  3. 4:45Newspaper's identity and mission
  4. 5:39Family control and advertising decline
  5. 7:11Mission statement and distribution
  6. 9:07September 11 coverage and editor transition
  7. 11:23Changes and 'A Nation Challenged' section
  8. 13:00Scramble to cover Afghanistan

Questions asked in this interview

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  1. 1:43What happens to this great room?
  2. 2:30What's the most important advice you know about using power?
  3. 4:29After 150 years, The New York Times is what?
  4. 5:30How much of it is because this is a family-controlled newspaper?
  5. 6:56One, what's the public trust and what's the family—how does the family view that?
  6. 8:53Give me a sense of what this paper said to itself on that day because your new editor was in the saddle about what? One day?
  7. 11:15Has the paper made changes that become part of its life?
  8. 12:52Did it have to scramble to get ready to cover a story this big?
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Charlie Rose 0:59 ↗
This is the home of The New York Times on West 43rd Street in New York City. Inside is the greatest newspaper in the world. It is celebrating its 150th birthday. It has been owned by the Ochs-Sulzberger family since 1896. The chairman of the board of the company and the publisher of the newspaper is 50-year-old Arthur Sulzberger.
This is the boardroom. This is part of the history of this place because—
Arthur Sulzberger 1:31 ↗
This is the publisher's original office. When Adolph Ochs built this building, this was his office. His desk was on that end of the room. And when we became a public company, we turned it into our boardroom.
Charlie Rose 1:43 ↗
You are moving into another building. What happens to this great room?
Arthur Sulzberger 1:50 ↗
Well, we may take it with us. We'll certainly take the spirit of it with us because tradition is a critical part of who we are. It's never going to define what we will be. But you've got to know who you are if you're going to be the best you can be. So, we can't let go of our past, even though we can't allow it to stop us from changing and adapting and moving on. That's a fun balance, a hard balance sometimes. Many institutions become too enamored of all their successes and say, "Well, we're perfect. Now, let's stop." We can't do that. We won't do that.
Charlie Rose 2:30 ↗
You have a lot of power. What's the most important advice you know about using power?
Arthur Sulzberger 2:45 ↗
Every time you use it, you're losing a part of it.
Charlie Rose 2:49 ↗
Because you have to make decisions.
Arthur Sulzberger 2:51 ↗
No, I think the power you have, the power I feel I have, is to empower others. I can't make decisions for the President of the United States or for the housewife in Illinois who's going to vote for the President of the United States. What I can do is bring to them and to thousands and millions in need of others the facts I think are important for them to understand as they make those decisions. So, externally, my power is the power to inform, the power to make decisions about what is important in the world, what isn't important in the world. In that regard, you're right. I agree with you. Internally, my power is to allow all those people who make The New York Times Company so great, make them feel they have the authority they need and that they have the resources they need to do the best possible job in journalism. And that's what I think The New York Times Company stands for.
Charlie Rose 3:48 ↗
We're going to move now and sit down over here and have a conversation about The New York Times, 150 years since it was founded. And we'll talk about that history and the challenge of a great newspaper after September 11th. Stay with us.
Announcer 4:11 ↗
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Charlie Rose 4:29 ↗
Tonight, a special edition of Charlie Rose. After 150 years, The New York Times is what?
Arthur Sulzberger 4:45 ↗
The New York Times is a truly national newspaper with an international reach thanks to the internet that is performing, in my judgment, at the top of its journalistic game.
Charlie Rose 5:00 ↗
The greatest newspaper in the world.
Arthur Sulzberger 5:03 ↗
Thank you.
Charlie Rose 5:03 ↗
You believe that?
Arthur Sulzberger 5:07 ↗
Yes, I do. No more so than over the last 2 and 1/2 months since September 11th, where I think we have taken a tragedy and probably the story of our generation and made it our own, helped to redefine again what it means to be the newspaper of record.
Charlie Rose 5:30 ↗
How much of it is because this is a family-controlled newspaper?
Arthur Sulzberger 5:39 ↗
I think what the family brings to it is constancy of purpose and a sense that even in these difficult economic times—and we are in the biggest year-to-year advertising drop since 1938, so this story comes at a particularly difficult time for newspapers or for any media—but even given that, we know our purpose. We know our reason for being, and we know that when you have something as monumental as this, when our nation is under assault, when our people are under attack, we will do everything we can and maybe just a little bit more to ensure that our news report reflects all of the dimensions that we can put into this story. Is that because of the family? I'm not sure I can say that, but does it help? Absolutely. When our board of directors meets in this room we're talking to each other in right now, they signed on to a company with those values. Yes, we're going to enhance shareholder value. Yes, we're going to be a highly profitable business. But we are fundamentally committed to performing our journalistic duty, and they know that. And that helps.
Charlie Rose 6:56 ↗
Two things about that. One, what's the public trust and what's the family—how does the family view that?
Arthur Sulzberger 7:06 ↗
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by the public trust.
Charlie Rose 7:08 ↗
Well, what's the mission?
Arthur Sulzberger 7:11 ↗
The mission of The New York Times Company is to create, collect, and distribute high-quality news, information, and entertainment. And I can say that so quickly because that is our mission. It is our mission statement. And we have it written down and we carry it with us. This is the mission statement of The New York Times newspaper, and this is the mission statement of The New York Times Company and our core purpose. And you will see in there most prominently journalism reflected.
Charlie Rose 7:46 ↗
Interesting about this as we hit all cylinders of what I want to talk about in this conversation. You didn't say newspaper. The New York Times is an institution that creates and collects and distributes high-quality news, information, and entertainment without reference to mode.

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Sulzberger, A. (2026, August 20). Arthur O. Sulzberger Jr. on Charlie Rose (11/27/2001) Part 1 [Interview transcript]. ChenowethRules. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/1273816/

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