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Bhavesh Zaveri
Group Head of Operations, ATM, Cash Management Product & Executive Director, HDFC Bank

HDFC Bank presents #UntoldStories | Episode 1 feat. Bhavesh Zaveri

🎥 May 22, 2020 📺 HDFCBank
Introducing Untold Stories. The untold and unseen behind-the-scene action by departments and people at HDFC Bank. In the first episode, Bhavesh Zaveri, Group Head – Operations and Technology, talks about the efforts put in place to keep the bank up and running during the lockdown. #HDFCBank #UntoldStories View the all episodes here:    • #Untold Stories with Bhavesh Zaveri |...   ======================================== Twitter:   / hdfcbanknews   ======================================== Featuring- Neeraj jha:   / neerajhdfcbank   Rajiv Banerjee:   / rajivbhdfcbank   Sherna D'mello:   /...
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About Bhavesh Zaveri

In May 2020, Bhavesh Zaveri, Group Head of Operations and Technology at HDFC Bank, appeared in the first episode of the bank's "#UntoldStories" series. During the interview, he discussed the bank's efforts to maintain operations during the COVID-19 lockdown. Zaveri stated that 95% of the bank's branches were operational and that the bank was managing close to two lakh customer engagements daily, with 93% uptime across its 13,000 ATMs. He described the situation as "very unprecedented" and noted that the bank's initial focus was on identifying and fixing areas significantly impacted by the lockdown. Zaveri highlighted several operational changes, including reducing reliance on outside agencies and discovering "newer ways of doing things" that reduced task completion times from days to hours. He emphasized the accelerated digital journey, citing increased adoption of UPI, mobile banking, and contactless payments, and expressed interest in continuing to use a digital employee onboarding app developed during the lockdown. Zaveri also mentioned community support activities, such as providing food and masks to migrant workers, and identified agility and digital fulfillment as key learnings from the crisis.

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Transcript (17 segments)
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Host0:10
Hello and welcome to Untold Stories, our new series of interviews and interactions with behind-the-scenes individuals and functions who work tirelessly, and often facelessly, to keep our bank ready at all times. We begin with operations, because it's the backbone and, to my mind, in the context of the bank at least, what blood is to the human body and life. Thanks, Niraj.
So, Bhavesh, during this extended lockdown, we have 95% of our branches up and running. We are managing close to two lakh customer engagements on a daily basis. We also have from our 13,000 ATMs almost 93% uptime. Take us behind the scenes and help us understand how this is possible.
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Bhavesh Zaveri1:10
Without exception, people who come to office and people who don't come to office—I know for sure a lot of hard work is happening working from home—but the point is that whether it's from home or from office, the whole machinery is working at a bank level because of the effort by each one of the team members across every vertical. Specific to operations, it's a very, very unprecedented situation, and the primary driver would be two parts. One, we genuinely do not have a situation where operations can do work from home in the present scenario. All applications are very critical, and we work on core banking applications. So we have people who drive this broadly; they are in office most of the days and trying to lead from the front on a day-to-day basis. I think so. Volumes are low, but there are some aspects which are mission critical. For example, ATM servicing. Right now, our customers would need our ATMs to be functioning, so the currency chest teams have been working very diligently. On the rest of the business area, gradually volumes have been reducing, but there are volumes. Even if it's down to say 40 or 50 from the peak, it's still significant volume for our size of the bank. This is the volume we have called them to office. We have ensured that no time is compromised. So our employees are not only in contact with customers, they are also in contact with their families. So what are the special precautions we are taking? First, we make sure at any point of time, whether it's a bank staff or an HDB or a contract staff, we would take ownership and responsibility for all three teams, because eventually all three combined work together and make this operations thing work. Secondly, we ensure we identify how many people we need to come to office, because in some centers commute was not so difficult, but if the volumes are not much, then we were very, very particular that we educate the staff on social distancing. So we have taken all precautions. It's really something we are extremely conscious and will continue to be conscious about for a reasonably long time.
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Host4:24
As we were talking, one thing came to my mind. The moratorium was announced by the government on a weekend, and we had very few days to implement it and meet the expectation of the RBI as well as the roar of customers across the country. So how difficult was it for the bank to implement it very effectively and meet the expectation of people across the country?
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Bhavesh Zaveri4:53
On the 27th, the circular was released. So first six or seven days, the learning was very, very strong, I think so. That helped in terms of then when the documents got signed, when we got all these notes approved, the framework, the structure, the nuances, and the permutation combination, we all had a fairly good idea of what changes we have to do in our system. So we were able to articulate very well what the monitoring requirement is, and obviously then the testing got done, and then gradually all the products got implemented. First, we were able to implement the EMI loans. So today, more than 30 or 35 lakh EMI loans we have processed through it. So two parts: one is getting the credit into their account. I think so from the journey, we have today the electronic platforms. I really will pay the money from government to the final beneficiary, from a corporate to their staff or vendors. Practically, it can happen in hours time, you know, it's so fast, so well-oiled, so well-greased. And the second leg comes, I think so, making sure the account of the beneficiary gets credited irrespective of who is the remitter—whether it's a government, whether it's a panchayat, whether it's a mandi, whether it's a bani wanting to make electronic payment. I think so the opportunity available: UPI, person-to-person transfer, making payment to any merchant, P2M payments using QR code, using net or mobile banking to pay a merchant on e-commerce site. Again, I think so it's hugely increased 24x7. On the cash side, they have to go to ATM. The currency gets loaded every day, so generally the cycle of currency works. The Government of India has presses which print currency across four centers across India. They distribute to their own office first. There are issue departments of RBI, about 20 of them. Through our CIT agencies, we distribute the cash to branches for every process.
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Host8:17
In a bank, there is a turnaround time, what we call TAT. During this lockdown period in Corona, there must have been some lessons for us and learnings. As a bank, has it improved or has it increased for a common customer when we are dealing with him on his requirements?
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Bhavesh Zaveri8:38
Yeah, good question. I think so, very important question. So first two weeks, I think so we were also a little kind of getting our act together to make sure that we identify areas which were significantly impacted to fix. The impact came when we were a little dependent on the outside agency, and then we have put resources within the bank scheme of things, cutting down the reliance on the BPOs. But when the working was within the operation and the bank stops doing more things, I think so we were able to bounce back. A lot of places we have discovered newer ways of doing things. Something that was taking us perhaps a few days is now taking us a few hours. Do you think a lot of these learnings will bring back and maybe this year? So here, one big learning I think so I'll take is that we always had this thought process of digital fulfillment for our customers. I think so, using other, using our existing KYC of our customers—a customer already has a savings account, current account with us. If he wants a PL or a credit card, there are occasions, opportunities, or areas where we do a KYC for them. So I think so when we have done some of these digital learnings, we realized that there was this last mile where we should have done a better job, and I think so the team again has worked for us to help identify these gaps.
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Host10:39
My question to you, Bhavesh, is that banks, like any other corporate, have a BCP—business continuity practice—and particularly during the lockdown, what are the new learnings that you have seen as far as BCP is concerned?
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Bhavesh Zaveri10:53
I think so some learning has been there on the BCP. It's about 170 people, and there was nothing we could do. So we were able to run that operations out of Mumbai, Delhi, and Calcutta. So BCP was activated. The learning was that you shouldn't have a BCP at city level, at a premise level. But maybe I can take a pause and request Bindu to add a couple of bits on two parts: one is the other team making sure the old machinery works day in and day out, and maybe a couple of learnings.
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Bindu11:37
Surely, boss. Thank you. We always believe that we should be physically present, but that is not required today's work. Having said that, we also came across various kinds of BCP plans, particularly about retail assets. Similarly, conjure mark here is always a centralized processing split into various premises within those critical locations also. And over two nights, we actually moved out with logistics of infrastructure, whatever required. Noida has an even more interesting story where we had the state head of NCR coming using the cash van to reach office from home. But one small thing that I would also like to mention here is that while we are ensuring that all the operations have no stoppage, no hindrances, but there are people. If you go a little down to these states, if you go a little down to the smaller centers, I'm seeing people and I'm getting news from various of my staff across that they are helping the migrant workers also. They are preparing food at the migrant workers' places. So that has been a very, very huge satisfaction and a good feeling for us, for our team, that inspired this crisis happening and making sure that the customers are not facing any challenges. In addition to that, they're doing this activity as well. So it's been phenomenal from that part.
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Host13:34
How are you using your own bank's house to keep the show going in a complete lockdown scenario? The Gujarat region is where we run our western grid leading operation. So suddenly, I think the first state that did the complete lockdown in the weekend—Friday, Saturday, Sunday—was no one allowed to come out of their training center there. And we took admin approval overnight and we brought all those people to our office. At the training center, we were allowed cooking, etc., food. But unfortunately, on day two, the cooks were also unable to come. So one of the officers went to his residence with approval from local police, we got him back, and we all collectively staff did the cooking for all the 30-40 people and supplied the food. So that is one piece where the cook and the food we organized. The staff commitment we have seen to ensure that the grid system, which is more of a regulatory requirement, doesn't get affected. So what is the help? It's a significant amount.
VC, do you see this yourself continuing with this in future then when we resume?
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Bhavesh Zaveri15:15
Depends on my team. I mean, I think so the intensity at which these interactions are going to change is very much sure. And also the tools—it may no more be only a con call. We'll have video connect, which will play a big role. We'll have possibly WhatsApp video coming into a good role. So I think even the tools of communication have become far more flexible and useful from a user group community perspective.
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Host15:50
While we were talking, you mentioned that the bank has developed a travel app. Today, we made ourselves as very, very small—I'm not saying it's big, but very small—a software company kind of department with a few hundred people working there. Lesser banks have more of vendor stuff, and so yeah, we have this expertise where we have developed reasonably good applications which are used by the bank, a reasonably good application used by businesses. Public transport is shut down, banks are expected to run. How is the staff going to come to office? So we rolled out the application. I think so it was less than three days after the lockdown was announced. Carpooling and this particular application—I am very keen to continue using it even after the lockdown is different. This app developed by the bank will give Ola and Uber a run for their money. Yes, yes, yes, actually that is what is happening.
So, Bhavesh, I'm sure there are some learnings that have stayed with you through this entire experience. Can you share those with our audience on a personal note?
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Bhavesh Zaveri17:28
I think so a lot of work will go on two big areas. One is the digital journey for the customer, because more as an offsite BTG combined, what we can do along with business. And second one is, I think so, this whole learning of staff hygiene and social responsibility. In this area, we as a bank can contribute a lot in that space in the community.
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Host18:10
Keep watching this space. We'll have many more episodes coming in for you. On behalf of my team at Corporate Communications, I thank you all once again.