All right. So, is this your first time in Las Vegas?
Yeah, first time in Las Vegas.
It's not always this hot, I can promise you.
I know. Right now, it feels like you're going to melt outside, but Liam, you've been here a few times.
I have. It's probably my 10th time.
I've been here as a youngster and also experienced this with you last year. Yes. I'm excited to be back.
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for taking the time to come out here. Quick question. How does it feel to you're a techie guy. You've done computer science, so how does it feel to be at a technology conference. Was this something you expected? Is it different than what you expected? Like how is that?
Yeah, it's really cool to be here, but it was definitely a lot bigger than I expected. You know, yesterday seeing the number of people and over here seeing how big it is.
Yeah, it's bigger than I expected and I never thought I'd be at a tech conference in a cricket capacity.
Very cool. Liam, I know it's not your first time, but being at the conference and you know, it's a different side of Vegas and a different side of the game that you play. So what are your first thoughts on this?
Yeah, I mean it's great to be here, but it's also picking the brains of people from a different environment. They want to talk about cricket, we want to talk about cyber security. It's also learning something new, but last year was a blast and this year I'm excited to be back and learn some more stuff.
Very cool. I think we're going to have some fun trying to correlate cyber security and cricket. I think there are more similarities than what you would think there are. I think as a batsman I'm sure Sanjay knows not to try to hit every single ball that comes their way and I think we know that in cyber security don't try to fix every vulnerability that is given to you by your security team. So you have to pick and choose the ones that actually make a difference. And there are a lot of similarities when it comes to that but maybe more on the personal side. How did you get into cricket and growing in this environment and being a player of the USA national cricket team and congratulations to you on that one. How does that feel? Was this a journey you kind of expected as a kid being here or were you thinking you're going to be an engineer coding software in a garage somewhere?
Yeah. So, you know, I just started playing with my dad in the backyard and it was always just something that I played for fun. And I think that's the most important thing for me to remember now as well that it's a game we play for fun. And then as my family moved to India, that's when I got the opportunity to play more seriously. And that's when I first thought about the idea of playing professionally. And then moving back to the US, I guess I never thought when I first started playing that I'd come back to the US and play cricket professionally here. But yeah, it's really cool how it's worked out.
So, how was it to get that call saying you're selected for the USA cricket team?
Yeah, really special. Especially the first time I got it, it was a WhatsApp message that I woke up to and then I just had to panic to try to get on a plane quickly and it never really synced in. But I think yeah, whenever I get a chance to sit back and think about, you know, how cool it is to represent a country, I think yeah, it's really exciting.
That's awesome. Very proud of you. When you've been out here playing with some of the top names in the game that you probably watched as a kid, you see them on the field, sometimes they're bowling to you, what are you thinking at that point of time, a big player, great bowler is bowling to you. So, how do you bridge that gap in feeling like, oh my god, this person is coming at me?
Yeah. In the moment, I try to just think about playing the ball, not the bowler. You know, whoever delivers it, it's just a ball that's coming down to me. But then after the game, that's when I get a chance to reflect. Yeah.
Awesome. Liam, how did you get into cricket back home in UK?
Yeah. Very similar, a family affair. My mom, my dad, my sister all played.
Yeah. Yeah. So, it was a local cricket club. My sister played, my mom did the scoring, did the lunches, and my dad was a good cricketer, good amateur. So, ever since I've been this high, I've always played cricket. It's been in my family through cousins, aunties, uncles. So yeah, I've always loved the game. I always had a vision I would play professional cricket. I didn't really have a backup plan. Thankfully, it turned out and I managed to be kind of successful in the game.
Okay. Very cool. So I think you know when we had Michael Juan the other day talking about you coming as a new player in the team at the time. How was it for you being selected, playing of course in that World Cup game and sort of playing with players that you've seen on TV and getting a chance to work with them. How was the process for you to be ready for that?
Yeah I think touching on it you go into the you don't realize your ability at that point you get picked and you're playing with your role models and your idols. You're sat next to them on the airplane flying to Pakistan to India. Yeah, then you realize your skills do match up and you have to have confidence and belief in yourself. It takes a minute to adjust. I think Sanjay will kind of speak on that also. But then soon as you get into the groove of things and you're performing, you practice with everybody. You get comfortable and then you realize you can help win games of cricket. And I think when you get that mentality, I'm not here to be part of the squad, I'm here to help win games, it kind of changes for you.
Yeah. I think the thing that both of you talked about which makes a lot of sense is I think you said that right. You play the ball at that point of time not the bowler and I think a lot of what we deal in cyber security is so much is coming at us all the time it feels overwhelming but at the end of the day it is really about that one issue that's come up and how do you address that on its merit and not worry about which malware actor is using it or not. I think you have nation state attackers, you have script kiddies, you have all these different threat actors. The good news is that they're all at the end of the day just using that one vulnerability. And so if you patch that, then you don't have to worry about who's using it. And I think it's the same thing, right? If it's a yorker, it's a yorker. You got to play the yorker no matter if it's Bumrah is bowling it or anybody else is bowling it, right? So I think there's so many parallels with cyber security. It's exciting to have you guys here. Maybe a question around that. What's your exposure to cyber security and any terminology that you can remember that you could talk a little bit about?
Yeah, I mean I've taken one class on security in college like maybe 3 years ago. So I don't remember too much but being around the Qualys office I remember the risk operations center.
Yay. You remember that? That's good.
That's okay. I never took a class in cyber security and I still run the cyber company. So I think you can make stuff up as you go. So Liam, it's your second time. Do you feel like your knowledge of cyber has slightly improved or really not that much?
