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General Partner, President, Chief Operating Officer & Director, Blackstone Inc

Blackstone's Gray Says Deal Environment Hitting 'Escape Velocity'

📅 Jan 29, 2026 Bloomberg Television 10 MIN 7756 VIEWS 15 SEGMENTS · 2 SPEAKERS
Blackstone President and COO Jon Gray says he expects a strong deal environment amid an economy that looks pretty good this year. Speaking with Dani Burger on "Bloomberg Open Interest," Gray also comments on the fears of an AI bubble and what he sees as risks to the markets. -------- More on Bloomberg Television and Markets Like this video? Subscribe and turn on notifications so you don't miss any videos from Bloomberg Markets & Finance: https://tinyurl.com/ysu5b8a9 Visit http://www.bloomberg.com for business news & analysis, up-to-the-minute market data, features, profiles and more....

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  1. 1:31For you, what is your concern that could blow things off course in what is set up to be a strong year?
  2. 2:48How do you find that balance of investing and capturing this new economy versus the fear of overextending yourself and bubble fears that emerge?
  3. 4:55Are there companies or industries that you're rethinking or wouldn't touch or wouldn't put new money into because of the fear of AI disruption?
  4. 6:27Sure talent growth, but will it be slower because of the technology you're adopting?
  5. 7:50The policy we're getting, how much friction has it introduced into your investment process?
  6. 9:22Is there something missing when it comes to both delivering policy and just the knowledge of whether it comes to pass or not?
Jonathan Gray 0:00 ↗
First off, just on the quarter, we had record earnings per share for the quarter and for the year, and we've got a number of powerful engines. One is this deal environment hitting escape velocity. We did four IPOs in the second half of the year, led by Medline, which is a terrific business in Chicago, and the market reception was quite positive. It feels to us like that 2013-14 period, where after the hibernation following the GFC, we began to take a number of companies public, notably Hilton Hotels. And it looks like it should continue as long as markets stay where they are. I think we will see a lot of activity. That's obviously good for us and our investors.
I'd also point out for us that the decision we made to lean into AI infrastructure, becoming the biggest investor in data centers, becoming the biggest provider of private capital to utilities, the lead investor today in electrical equipment and related services, that's really delivered great results and there's a lot of momentum there as well. And then I just say finally that we continue to see this secular shift towards alternatives, insurance companies, individual investors, institutions. We had 71 billion of inflows in the quarter, 239 billion in the year. So a lot of good things are happening, but certainly the deal backdrop is quite favorable.
Interviewer 1:31 ↗
Whenever things are so good, people love to pick for holes in it and reasons they might not be good. John, there was a Bloomberg survey of private capital investors basically saying what could blow things off course for them, it was macroeconomic or rate instability. For you, what is your concern that could blow things off course in what is set up to be a strong year?
Jonathan Gray 1:53 ↗
Well, you always can have things geopolitically. That's a risk that always exists. Certainly long rates, if you saw that backup, that could slow down the deal environment. But I'd say overall, the picture looks pretty good. We've got an economy with a fair amount of strength. Our private equity companies in the quarter had 9% revenue growth. That's obviously positive. We continue to see cost of capital coming down. Spreads are at very low levels. That's helpful for the deal environment as well. And then this AI world, this huge investment that's happening that we're helping to facilitate and then the huge productivity boom that's going to come, I believe after that is another positive. So there are always risks out there. You've got to be thoughtful in how you deploy capital. But the overall environment to us feels pretty good. I think this should be a strong year.
Interviewer 2:48 ↗
How do you navigate that AI spend specifically? Obviously a huge boon to Blackstone. But on the other side, you have, for example, in public markets, Microsoft had earnings yesterday and everybody freaks out that they're overextending themselves on CapEx. How do you find that balance of investing and capturing this new economy versus the fear of overextending yourself and bubble fears that emerge?
Jonathan Gray 3:13 ↗
I'd say how you invest really matters. So a lot of what we've done here is, as I said, this infrastructure and it's based on long-term contracts with credit-worthy counterparties and that makes a huge difference. So if you're building a multibillion-dollar data center in the US or around the world and you have a 15-plus year contract with a company with a $3 trillion market cap, that feels pretty good. Similar dynamic if you're doing something around energy, be it an LNG or new power plant, you have a long-term contract. So I think there are ways to do this that are more downside protected. At the same time, we're trying to capture the upside selectively, you know, around some of the big LLMs, around some of the application software, but we're mindful of how much investing we're doing. We're also mindful of the risk, but there's also a fair amount of upside.
I do think what's interesting is everyone's focused on these bubble risks. I think the biggest risk is actually the disruption risk. What happens when industries change overnight, like what we saw to the Yellow Pages back in the 90s when the internet came along, or what happened to taxis when Uber and Lyft came to the taxi business 10 years ago. In the last two weeks, we saw JP Morgan say they're going to stop using proxy advisors and use AI instead. We heard Lemonade say that if you use your AI-powered self-driving Tesla during those miles, we're going to cut rates by 50%. What does that mean for insurance companies? What does that mean for collision repair companies? And so we're spending tons of time thinking about rules-based businesses, accounting, legal.
Interviewer 4:55 ↗
How are you, if I can just jump in, what about on the portfolio company side? Are there companies or industries that you're rethinking or wouldn't touch or wouldn't put new money into because of the fear of AI disruption?

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Gray, J. (2026, January 29). Blackstone's Gray Says Deal Environment Hitting 'Escape Velocity' [Interview transcript]. Bloomberg Television. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/2939563/

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Jonathan Gray. "Blackstone's Gray Says Deal Environment Hitting 'Escape Velocity'." Bloomberg Television, 29 Jan. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/2939563/.

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