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Scott Bessent
Treasury Secretary, US Treasury

Treasury Secretary Bessent: Trump admin won't give AI leaders a 'liability shield'

📅 Sep 21, 2026 CNBC Television 9 MIN 115484 VIEWS 19 SEGMENTS · 2 SPEAKERS
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent joins 'Squawk Box' to discuss his meeting with Chinese Vice Premier He Lifeng, details of a 'U.S.-China AI Dialogue', calls for a slowdown in AI development, whether regulation is needed, Iran war latest, and more.

What Scott Bessent said

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Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent discussed the outcomes of high-level talks with China, emphasizing the strong rapport between President Trump and Xi Jinping, which facilitated a 12-hour working session. He announced the formalization of the U.S.-China AI Dialogues, with a follow-up meeting planned in Shenzhen within two months, and the establishment of a communications and incident line. Bessent addressed tariffs, noting a focal point on suspended higher tariffs set to expire November 10, and mentioned a '30-by-30' trade deal for non-critical goods, operationalized by USTR Jamison Greer, to reduce tariffs to MFN levels. On AI, Bessent agreed with the president that AI labs must take responsibility, rejecting liability shields, and highlighted the need for incident reporting and transparency. He identified the biggest danger as lack of resiliency, praising the frontier labs as national champions and noting the potential for using bank cybersecurity knowledge.

Key takeaways

  1. Formalized U.S.-China AI Dialogues with a follow-up meeting in Shenzhen within two months.
  2. Discussed a 30-by-30 trade deal for non-critical goods to lower tariffs to MFN levels.
  3. China conceded the U.S. remains in the lead in AI models.

Numbers and commitments

FigureWhat it refers toTypeAt
12 hours Duration of working discussions with China metric 0:36
November 10 Expiration date for suspended higher tariffs on Chinese imports timeline 3:39
30-by-30 Trade deal for non-critical goods to reduce tariffs to MFN levels other 4:09
$1 trillion to $2 trillion Valuations of frontier AI labs like Anthropic other 8:16

Chapters

  1. 0:00U.S.-China economic talks
  2. 2:26AI dialogue and guardrails
  3. 3:39Tariff suspension and trade deal
  4. 5:34AI liability and responsibility
  5. 8:16AI dangers and resilience

Questions asked in this interview

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  1. 0:16What came out concrete from your discussions?
  2. 2:01Wouldn't they like us to put up guardrails and they might not put up any?
  3. 3:14Did he find... is everything fine?
  4. 3:39Did you talk about that at all?
  5. 4:01Any concrete things that you can tell us right now to take away from the meeting?
  6. 4:58Do you disagree with that at all? Any part of that?
  7. 6:42On that point, is there something that the government might do to maybe put that in finer point, what those liabilities are?
  8. 7:55In your opinion, what is the biggest danger you see?
Becky Quick 0:08 ↗
Welcome back to Squawk Box. Our newsmaker of the morning, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent. Mr. Treasury Secretary, thank you for joining us.
Scott Bessent 0:15 ↗
Joe, Becky, great to be with you.
Becky Quick 0:16 ↗
You get to be in our fishbowl of a Nasdaq studio, which is always, always interesting. You recently held some high-level talks. What came out concrete from your discussions?
Scott Bessent 0:36 ↗
So it was all day yesterday, Joe. And I think what's important in terms of framing the talks is it all stems from the leaders' very good rapport and relationship. President Trump, Xi Jinping at the personal level have a very good relationship, and we try to bring that down to the working level. They both have great respect for each other. I think in Xi Jinping's eyes, Donald Trump is a different kind of leader than he's seen in the past. And our discussions yesterday, we talked about economics, we talked about AI. We had some deliverables that have not been completely fulfilled from our meeting in Busan, Korea, last fall. And then we started an AI dialogue, which I think is going to be very important. And again, this is possible because of the leaders' relationship. President Trump was in Beijing. I was there with him in May. Xi Jinping will be coming to Washington this week. And then there's a chance the two leaders will see each other two more times. So I think that adds great stability to the relationship. The Chinese have a phrase, 'implementing our leaders' consensus,' and they keep falling back to that. And that's true. We follow the instructions and then we get down in the details. And we spent about 12 hours yesterday doing that.
Becky Quick 2:01 ↗
Can you give us more color on exactly how the AI discussions went? And, you know, we've even seen reports that maybe you were a little bit more cautious than the president at one time about guardrails. What type of cooperation could we expect from China and what type of guardrails? And do you trust them? Wouldn't they like us to put up guardrails and they might not put up any?
Scott Bessent 2:26 ↗
Well, I think the important thing was to start talking. So to set up the dialogue, we've now formalized something called the U.S.-China AI Dialogues. We've agreed to meet again probably in two months in Shenzhen. The second thing is we want to open a communications line and incident line so that we have constant communications, especially in the event of some kind of an incident. And then we want to start discussing protocols for what our... so both sides can agree on what the leading AI dangers are, whether it's uncontrollable agents, whether it's non-state actors and cyber non-state actors in bioweapons.
Becky Quick 3:14 ↗
You didn't mention to the vice premier concerns about President Xi's health. Did he find... is everything fine? You saw him not too long ago, I guess. But I've just read reports. I don't know if there's any veracity, but I...
Scott Bessent 3:29 ↗
All things are going... everything's okay at this point. The president's planning on greeting him at Andrews Air Force Base, and I think we're going to have a great visit.
Becky Quick 3:39 ↗
We'll be able to tell firsthand at that point. Can I just ask you about tariffs? You know that there are some... we suspended higher tariffs on some Chinese imports that expires November 10th. Did you talk about that at all?

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Bessent, S. (2026, September 21). Treasury Secretary Bessent: Trump admin won't give AI leaders a 'liability shield' [Interview transcript]. CNBC Television. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/2959923/

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