You have an obligation to be honest and forthright with this committee, correct?
And is it the case in the Juan Orlando Hernandez case that the President of the United States pardoned a man who had worked with the Sinaloa Cartel to facilitate massive narcotrafficking into the United States?
I don't remember the specifics of that case, but...
Convicted. I'm just... we convict a lot of people for a lot of drugs.
Convicted of narcotrafficking, yes?
Know so at massive scale, yes?
Well, you're telling me what I know. That's kind of... he was, I believe... look, I'll take your word for it. He was a convicted narcotrafficker.
Did the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, pardon a convicted narcotrafficker?
I believe we just discussed that. The President provided a pardon, yes.
Yes or no? Did the President of the United States pardon a convicted narcotrafficker?
Who won the 2020 election?
You know, we're not... I'm not going to do this with you.
This is a job interview. We have established that you have an obligation to be honest and forthright with the committee. Yes, you do have an obligation to be honest and forthright with the committee.
Who won the 2020 election?
Like I said, I'm not going to get into that with you.
But you do have an obligation to be honest and forthright with the committee.
Is anything that I just said not honest or forthright?
Yes, you're not being honest or forthright. Who won the 2020 election?
Well, we're going to keep doing it because you're not being honest and forthright with the committee.
It's a simple question, Mr. Clayton.
Who won the 2020 presidential election?
You're here asking for the support of senators to lead America's intelligence community. We have established that you have an obligation to be honest and forthright with this committee and with the American public, but you refuse to answer a simple matter of fact about the 2020 election. Is that right?
Then answer the question. Who won the 2020 election?
I have answered the question.
Answer it. What is your answer?
I've given you my answer.
What is your answer? You refuse to answer a basic question about who won a presidential election.
But you ask to lead America's intelligence community. Isn't it humiliating to be unable to answer this question? To have to indulge the president's delusions? We know, you know, everybody in this room knows the truthful answer to that question. Why can you not give it?
I think I gave you the answer.
Are you aware that Director Gabbard was present at the Fulton County raid in Georgia earlier this year?
You discussed that with me yesterday in your office.
Are you aware that Director Gabbard was present at the Fulton County raid earlier this year?
You brought it to my attention...
You've said at the beginning of this you have an obligation to be honest and forthright with the committee. I'm asking a very simple question. Are you aware that Director Gabbard was present at the Fulton County raid earlier this year? Yes or no. Are you aware?
You won't answer that question either.
I said I was made aware of it by you yesterday.
The first time you learned that Director Gabbard was present at that raid was in my office yesterday?
It was the first time that in my recollection I thought about it recently. Now, was I aware of it before? What? You brought it to my attention yesterday. I had not thought...
You had not known until...
I had not thought about it until you brought it to my attention yesterday.
Your answers lack credibility. Your testimony lacks credibility. You're being evasive and you're not being candid or forthright. And everybody across the country's going to watch this and know that. Are you aware that former Director Gabbard testified that her presence at the raid was, quote, requested by the president?
I'm not aware of that until now.
Okay, you are now aware of that.
Are you aware that members of this committee are already probing Director Gabbard's potential misconduct in this matter?
No. I'm not privy to your probe into...
Are you aware that the General Counsel and Deputy General Counsel of your office have already provided testimony to this committee regarding this matter?
If the White House Chief of Staff or the President asks you to travel somewhere across the United States and oversee the execution of a domestic search warrant on a sensitive election facility, will you do it?
