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Allan Evans
Chief Executive Officer, Unusual Machines, Inc.

Aloft Gives $UMAC A Broader Impact in the Drone Space!

📅 Feb 11, 2025 Alpha Wolf Impact 34 MIN 544 VIEWS 44 SEGMENTS · 2 SPEAKERS
Alan Evans, CEO of Unusual Machines ( $UMAC Impact Stock), Provides some updates on the supply chain, a couple of new additions to be added to the Blue list soon, and the brilliant acquisition of Aloft, which takes $UMAC out of being just a hardware drone play to a hardware and SAAS software service that is critical for drone industry growth. I am excited about every aspect of this acquisition, from the fact that it is nearly an all-stock transaction, Alofts position in the industry with the services they provide, and the opportunities for expansion of those services and solidifying the number...

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  1. 1:34So you went off traveling around the globe. What were you doing there?
  2. 2:58And you're happy with your trip?
  3. 3:21You had another approval besides the controller, right?
  4. 4:39... caught me off guard and I thought was just a brilliant and underappreciated, really in my mind, acquisition — and I want to emphasize an acquisition that was almost all stock, which is my favorite way to see an acquisition done, right?
  5. 10:56I mean, if you start looking into the company, you know, this is an amazing company that is going to have a lot of data, and it's basically a software-as-a-service, right?
  6. 13:14You're like the mad scientist, you know, all the pieces are starting to come together, huh?
  7. 16:53I mean, the possibilities are endless, really, right?
  8. 19:43And now we have a — you know, together, like you said, you have a stronger balance sheet, you got more powerful to get it done, right?
  9. 22:34So is anybody shocked that an open-source software that is out there, they found a way to make it better?
  10. 28:21Curiosity question: of the people that fly drones in the United States, what percentage of people would be using LAANC, the commercial registrations for LAANC airspace, which is the FAA registration for people doing commercial flights?
  11. 29:11Is there anything you feel as though I've missed?
  12. 30:38This is going to be an exciting story and an exciting company to be part of for I think a long time to come, right?
Tim 0:02 ↗
Welcome to Alpha Wolf Capital. I'm Tim, and I want to personally thank you for stopping by. This channel is designed to help small companies, both public and private, gain exposure with potential consumers, investors, even partners. Take for example today's guest, Allan Evans of Unusual Machines. Unusual Machines is a hardware play that has been establishing themselves as the supply chain for US-made drones and FPV drones. First, viewers, up until last week it was looking like a pure hardware play — that is, until they announced the acquisition of Aloft, which is still in progress but enables Unusual Machines to provide a software-as-a-service product, and it's a very exciting product indeed. Think of air traffic control for drone flights. But I'm going to let Allan Evans tell you more about this acquisition and why it's so critical for Unusual Machines. This is not to be taken as investment advice. I am not a certified financial planner. This is for education and entertainment purposes only. I encourage everyone to do their own due diligence.
Hey everybody, Tim from Alpha Wolf Capital coming at you with a really exciting story — a follow-up to one of my favorites, Unusual Machines. And now I guess we'd have to call you Unusual Machines and Software, right? Machines have software in them, so I think it's still just Unusual Machines. Oh, you got a lot of exciting stuff going on, right? You've been busy traveling the globe. Allan Evans from Unusual Machines — UMAC is the symbol. I know you've been busy, man. So you went off traveling around the globe. What were you doing there?
Allan Evans 2:13 ↗
We went to go check on all our component suppliers and some other international partners. For instance, like our new NDAA-compliant camera final assemblies in Taiwan. And so just go review everything to be sure that we're not getting reboxed, where you know people buy in from China and trade it out. One of the really neat things is in, like, Taiwan they call it 'no red' — they have their own rules for not-China, and they have a different language everywhere. It's pretty funny. In India, all the Indian companies have a no-China supply chain stuff if they're doing anything in the way. So it's really interesting to go just check on everybody. And it used to be you'd go to China and just go into Shenzhen and that was, you know, your whole supply chain visit, but now it's distributed all over the place.
Tim 2:58 ↗
Right. And you're happy with your trip?
Allan Evans 3:03 ↗
Yeah, went better than we expected. I think vendors at different levels of sophistication — you know, met some of our partners in the US too. We were out in California as part of it, and generally speaking we feel pretty good. And like somebody could come bed us and go all the way down the chain and we'd pass.
Tim 3:21 ↗
That's awesome. That's awesome. So I mean, that's pretty cool. You had another approval besides the controller, right?
Allan Evans 3:32 ↗
Yep, our motor controller and ESC, which is an electronic speed controller, just got put on the blue list. That'll be available for sale. We're targeting March. We're just doing some final testing and ramping that up. Our camera is now for sale. We've sold a bunch of those. That's NDAA-compliant. That's submitted for the blue list, and we have other parts in the queue still. Yeah, trying to get a whole blue FPV drone, all the parts fled, done as quickly as possible.
Tim 3:57 ↗
Okay. And how is the FPV drone going? So you're making that, if I'm not mistaken, for Red Cat, right? Aren't you doing the FPV?
Allan Evans 4:08 ↗
We're the partners for the Fang, and so you see some 7-inch drones. We're getting pretty close. And really what's great is once all the parts are blue and the drone is blue, you can trade out blue parts for other blue parts and you don't have to recertify the drone. So we're really just trying to get a first one out there so that Red Cat or other partners can sort of configure it then how they want by taking out sort of the stock parts and building whatever they think is necessary for their end customer.
Tim 4:39 ↗
Okay, okay. And then I guess the thing that just caught me off guard and I thought was just a brilliant and underappreciated, really in my mind, acquisition — and I want to emphasize an acquisition that was almost all stock, which is my favorite way to see an acquisition done, right?
Allan Evans 5:02 ↗
Yeah, so we recently announced our definitive agreement with Aloft. I'm super excited about it. Had to keep my mouth shut for a long time because when an entity is 70% of the market and doing new things, if you talk about it, I would have gotten myself a bidding war with private equity or others who saw the value. I've known John and Josh, the founders, for a long time. They're super smart. I'm super excited to work with them and really excited about their new Airboss product, which really lets everybody in a jurisdiction share the right amount of drone information with each other. So like in New Jersey, nobody knew what was going on, but if there was Airboss — like CNN is already a customer, Fox News is a customer, individual pilots use it to log in — and then police and fire and hospital flights can all share the right amount of data and not have to share exactly what the mission's for or anything. But then somebody in the governor's office could have worked, you know, when they got a phone call and been like, 'Oh yeah, no, that flight's legitimate.' They don't need to know if it's a three-letter agency or whatever. If it's in the system and the right flags are there, then nobody has to worry about it. So very excited about that coming out.
Tim 6:13 ↗
Now of course we were talking about this before New Jersey happened, but then New Jersey happened, or like the terrible incident in the Palisades fire where a drone hit a plane, and you're starting to look and you're seeing airspace management become kind of a really big deal. So the time and the interest has really worked out. And then yeah, those guys, they're great.
Allan Evans 6:34 ↗
It's, we call it a paper swap, not an exit. Like you're going to trade your equity for some of this equity and we're going to keep building, and there's liquidity there and they can be part of a bigger engine. And so it was all stock except for I think like 40 grand that we had to pay out to unaccredited investors just to not, you know, do anything silly. So yeah, like wait for all stock for a company that meets our profile, which is generating revenue, going to be cash-flow neutral. We have by far and away a market leader in the domestic segment. And I think in the hype around the defense markets, which is valid, everybody's just ignored the Countering Chinese Communist Party Drones Act, which is going into the NDAA, which kicks out all the Chinese drones from the US domestic market. And that's like 5 to 10 billion a year in just hardware sales. So it just feels like it's an ignored segment, so we just decided we'd go there first. There's a whole lot more drone flights than there are airplane flights. There's only about 40,000 airplane flights a year, right? There's, you know, millions of drone flights that go up and down. And so when you look at the future airspace and coordinating, you know, it's I think going to be amazing.
Tim 7:59 ↗
Yeah, to integrate at all and necessary.
Allan Evans 8:02 ↗
You know, the sky is really big, and for a long time we've operated on Big Sky Theory, where in 3D space it's hard for things to intersect without seeing each other. But now, like, okay, now we need some traffic lights in the sky and basic 'let's all drive on the right' kind of rules. And the FAA is looking at putting that together over the next two years for Part 108. And once those come together and get integrated, that's really going to open up the domestic market. That's going to be BVLOS and all these other things. And we're, you know, at Unusual Machines, like, defense is important. It's important for us to build in the US for those defense customers, but we don't want to get so distracted by defense that we miss what is the monster opportunity, which is like autonomy in the US market. And when you look at the current administration with Musk and Trump, and they're really pro-drone, but they're also pro-autonomy. And I think people from a macroeconomic perspective dramatically underestimate the deflationary power of autonomous logistics. So I did this math last night with an investor. I'm like, how much time do you think US people just spend in a car in a day on average? So it's an average of an hour a day per person driving. That's 300 million hours a day. Okay, let's just say we pay everybody 30 bucks an hour. That's a billion dollars a day. Like autonomy — even if you're sitting in the car, you like watch a show or whatever, or something delivers to your place instead of otherwise, but it doesn't require a person — is a billion dollars a day of deflationary pressure directly, not counting reduced accidents, changes in medical. Like, man, when you look at this current administration versus before, I think autonomy is coming 5 to 10 years faster. I think we're going to accept regulatory stuff that cuts it down, that enables it, both, you know, drone autonomy and ground autonomy. And I think the deflationary pressures from some of those infrastructure aspects coming into play are going to drive just wildly positive economic outcomes. So I'm, you know, when I look at that whole thing, it makes us even more interested in looking at the domestic drone market and obviously grabbing the super-majority market leader in a category where 100% works best for everybody.
Tim 10:36 ↗
The amount of data that you are going to have is — and I don't know if anybody knows this, but data is the new oil. I think it surpasses oil.
Allan Evans 10:49 ↗
Nobody's heard that. Nobody's ever heard that statement.
Tim 10:56 ↗
And I think you — I mean, so you did a couple of things. I've never been a huge hardware play person because the cycle is the same, right? You have hardware, you are the top-notch player at this particular point in time, you've got some nice margins, and then in comes the competition. How do they go after you? They lower the price. That's the same thing for hardware all the time, right? I love software, so you were unusual for me to get involved with because — but you had a very unique profile because you had literally — you're setting up when there really isn't anything else, and the competitor is going to have to leave the country. So that was a very unique situation. Right now this story has gotten, in my opinion, I don't know, a hundred times better because of this component, this Aloft. I mean, if you start looking into the company, you know, this is an amazing company that is going to have a lot of data, and it's basically a software-as-a-service, right?
Allan Evans 12:24 ↗
Yep, it's all software, recurring revenue. But what I think — one of the things, and I totally agree with you, and a lot of people are excited about it — by doing the hardware, we can control through what we do the quality and consistency of data. So now we're in a position to not even have unstructured data, but to have structured data, and to be sure that what we need out of all of this, whether it's remote ID or anything else, to be sure the skies are safe and effective, is we don't have to go back in and try to parse through, you know, a million different formattings or whatever else. So by doing the right hardware pieces, we actually can empower a much better, cleaner data set and a faster future.
Tim 13:14 ↗
You're like the mad scientist, you know, all the pieces are starting to come together, huh?
Allan Evans 13:20 ↗
Yeah, you just like — this is one where I had to keep it in the pocket because, like, you know, even if you just look — if private equity went and bought them as DJI replaced, they would know what companies to go buy before those companies knew where they were winning segments. So I mean, this is — you just couldn't tell everybody, like, well, drone future domestically is this. Parts are part of the solution. I mean, if you want to be like cute about it, you could call it Sky or something. Like in IoT, you need both the components and the data, right? And so I think when you look, that's really the future. These are robotic data aggregators. And then past that, their delivery, their — you know, I think there's a lot of really interesting things that are coming. I think it's coming faster than people think under the current administration because of the deflationary value that it brings and the economic growth that comes with it.
Tim 14:14 ↗
You're talking about actual use cases for drones in general?

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  title        = {Aloft Gives $UMAC A Broader Impact in the Drone Space!},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, Alpha Wolf Impact. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2025},
  month        = {feb},
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  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
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