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Casey Newton
Founder & Editor; Co-host, Machine Gods; former Hard Fork co-host, Platformer

Is Google Doing Enough to Win the A.I. Race?

📅 May 21, 2026 Hard Fork 11 MIN 13900 VIEWS 55 SEGMENTS · 3 SPEAKERS
Google wrapped up its annual I/O developer conference this week, unveiling a slew of new A.I. tools, from Gemini 3.5 Flash to Google Spark. Kevin Roose and Casey Newton, the hosts of "Hard Fork," break down the biggest moments of the event, and how they're thinking about Google's next chapter. Hard Fork is a weekly look into the future that's already here. Hosts Kevin Roose and Casey Newton explore stories from the bleeding edge of tech. FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL TikTok:   / hardfork   Kevin Roose -   / kevinroose   Casey Newton -   / crumbler   Twitter (X): Kevin - https://x.com/kevinroose...

Questions asked in this interview

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  1. 0:12Can you sack up and just give me some scenic B-roll?
  2. 10:33All right, Casey, what is your verdict on I/O? Did it meet your expectations?
Casey Newton 0:00 ↗
Ready to walk and talk?
Kevin Roose 0:01 ↗
What are we talking about?
Casey Newton 0:02 ↗
We're just... it's scenic. Scenic setting.
Kevin Roose 0:04 ↗
Can you be less?
Casey Newton 0:05 ↗
No, I'm asking. I was told to shut up because I ruined too much of the show earlier. So I'm like, what? What am I allowed to talk about?
Kevin Roose 0:12 ↗
Can you sack up and just give me some scenic B-roll?
Casey Newton 0:15 ↗
Fully sacked.
Kevin Roose 0:18 ↗
I have to do everything around here. I swear to God.
Casey Newton 0:22 ↗
Okay.
Well, Kevin, the keynote just wrapped up here at I/O 2026. What did you think?
Kevin Roose 0:35 ↗
Yes, this is like the Coachella of capitalism, the Warped Tour of the web, the Lollapalooza of links. I can keep going.
Casey Newton 0:48 ↗
Please don't.
Kevin Roose 0:50 ↗
And they are doing a lot. We heard about everything from agentic search to these new video editing models and products that they have, all the way to Demis Hassabis at the end of the keynote declaring that we are in the foothills of the singularity.
Demis Hassabis 1:07 ↗
When we look back at this time, I think we will realize that we were standing in the foothills of the singularity.
Casey Newton 1:15 ↗
Quite a kicker.
Kevin Roose 1:15 ↗
Yeah. And that puts us on pace by I/O 2027 to be at the base camp of the singularity. I love that Google's version of the Steve Jobs 'one more thing' is like, 'one more thing: the singularity.'
Casey Newton 1:31 ↗
A great way to end. So yeah, what was your standout? What did they announce that caught your eye? I mean, they have said that they just made the biggest change to search in 25 years. I think time will tell if that is truly as significant a change as they're suggesting, because when we saw it in the demos, it just looked like the box grows if you type more into it. But, you know, they're also saying that by this summer they're going to be generating custom user interfaces based on your query and a bunch of other stuff. I think a through line through everything that they discussed here was 'coming this summer' or 'coming to a group of trusted testers.' And with these kind of productivity tools, until they're in your hands, you don't really know if anything has changed in your life or not.
Kevin Roose 2:15 ↗
Yeah, there was a lot of focus on agentic stuff like agentic coding. They have this new agentic search mode which basically is sort of the fancy upgrade to Google Alerts. You can have it sort of tell you when there's a new home listed on Zillow or a new baseball score you might care about or something like that. I was really interested that they seem to be betting very big on cost and speed. So their new model that they talked about today was Gemini 3.5 Flash, which is the newest version, but it's also, they say, four times faster and much cheaper than the other leading frontier models. And so I think Google's strategy of kind of betting on scale and distribution and making their models as efficient to serve as possible is really the direction they're going in. Like, they don't seem to care about having the absolute most cutting-edge models as long as they can serve them cheaply and quickly to billions of people.
Casey Newton 3:14 ↗
I mean, I think they care about it. I think that they just haven't built it yet. You know, fast and cheap is what you talk about when it isn't the best. And so that's what we're getting this year. But, you know, I am interested in trying these new agents. I'll say I tried to use the new agent. I said, 'let me know if Kevin Roose writes a good story,' but it hasn't sent me anything. And so I don't know if it's broken or if the AI isn't working or what.
Kevin Roose 3:39 ↗
Yeah, I'm writing good stories constantly, so something must be going on.
Casey Newton 3:44 ↗
I mean, my real curiosity is like which of these agents are going to find true product-market fit? Like which is the agent that is going to get a billion users? Because we saw them show off what is effectively their version of OpenClaw, which definitely had a big moment earlier this year, but it's still not clear to me that that is an actual mainstream use case. Like I have to say, of everything they showed off, I'm not dying to have, you know, Gemini OpenClaw working overnight on my behalf because I don't know what I would ask it to do.
Kevin Roose 4:14 ↗
Yeah, I think that was actually one of my favorite parts because I am currently running a Claude swarm on my open laptop.
Casey Newton 4:24 ↗
Doing what? What is it doing?
Kevin Roose 4:27 ↗
And what they have said is that you can now do that through Gemini Spark, this new agent thing, and it will run in like a virtual machine on the cloud. So you don't have to keep your laptop cracked like an insane person.
Casey Newton 4:39 ↗
Kevin, please. What are you doing with your...
Kevin Roose 4:40 ↗
I can't tell you.

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Newton, C. (2026, May 21). Is Google Doing Enough to Win the A.I. Race? [Interview transcript]. Hard Fork. CEOInterviews.AI. https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3002581/

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Casey Newton. "Is Google Doing Enough to Win the A.I. Race?." Hard Fork, 21 May. 2026. Transcript, CEOInterviews.AI, https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3002581/.

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@misc{newton2026_3002581,
  author       = {Casey Newton},
  title        = {Is Google Doing Enough to Win the A.I. Race?},
  howpublished = {Interview transcript, Hard Fork. CEOInterviews.AI},
  year         = {2026},
  month        = {may},
  url          = {https://ceointerviews.ai/interview/3002581/},
  note         = {Speaker-attributed transcript with timestamps}
}