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Scott Settersten
Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Assistant Secretary, Ulta Beauty Inc

CFOs In Motion "More than Skin Deep" with Scott Settersten, Ulta Beauty

🎥 Aug 08, 2022 📺 CFOIntelligence ⏱ 39m
Watch Scott Settersten, CFO, Ulta Beauty, share with CFO Intelligence Host, Andrew Zezas, how Ulta continues to drive growth in challenging business environments. CFO Intelligence brings together CFOs and senior finance executives to forge peer relationships, share intelligence and insights, enhance their careers, and drive growth and opportunity at the companies they serve. CFO Intelligence hosts exclusive private invitation-only events, highlighting thought leaders in CFO Intelligence magazine and other publications, and through other selective channels. CFO Intelligence magazine delivers...
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About Scott Settersten

Scott Settersten, Chief Financial Officer of Ulta Beauty, discussed the company's growth strategy and competitive landscape in an August 2022 interview on CFOs in Motion. He noted that Ulta's Ultamate Rewards program has over 37.5 million active members, driving more than 95 percent of total sales. Settersten described the company's partnership with Target as an opportunity to build brand awareness among Target's shoppers, stating that the concept is not an effort to replicate a full Ulta store inside Target but rather a way to engage shoppers and connect them with the Ulta loyalty program. He also addressed concerns about competition from large digital retailers such as Amazon and Walmart, saying the beauty category has always been highly competitive. Settersten highlighted Ulta's investments in digital capabilities and supply chain infrastructure, which he said allowed the company to pivot to an online-only model during pandemic-related store closures. He emphasized that both brick-and-mortar and digital channels remain critical to the business. Regarding macroeconomic pressures, Settersten stated that variables such as inflation, supply chain issues, and geopolitical tensions could affect consumer shopping patterns, and that the company was running scenario analysis and taking a prudent approach to expectations. He described his role as that of a general manager first, focusing on strategy and ideation, before applying a finance perspective to sales, margin, and capital allocation decisions.

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Transcript (29 segments)
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Andrew Zizes0:10
CFO intelligence with your host Andrew Zizes. Dynamic and direct one-on-one interviews with CFOs and executives from enterprise and middle market companies. And now here's your host Andrew Zizes.
Hello everyone and welcome back to CFOs in Motion, where we bring you interviews with accomplished and insightful CFOs at middle market and enterprise companies. I'm your host Andrew Zizes. It's great to be back with you again. As you know, we're pretty selective about who we invite to participate in CFOs in Motion interviews. Today we have with us a highly accomplished and diverse finance and strategy executive, an active participant in CFO Intelligence, one who's attended... If you'd like to learn more about our guest Scott, about CFOs in Motion, or about CFO Intelligence, please contact me at [email protected]. Now here's some background on Scott Settersten. He's been Ulta Beauty CFO for almost 10 years. Ulta Beauty trades on NASDAQ under ULTA, with fiscal 2021 revenues of more than $8.6 billion. It's the largest U.S. beauty retailer and the premier beauty destination for cosmetics, fragrance, skin and hair products, and salon services. Ulta Beauty operates more than 1,300 stores across 50 states and also distributes its products through a thriving digital platform. And we'll learn more about that today. He also plays a key role in developing and driving Ulta Beauty's strategic and M&A focus. Scott also serves on the board of directors and is the audit committee chair for Kimball International Inc. (NASDAQ: KBAL), a leading omni-channel commercial furnishings design and manufacturing company with deep expertise in the workplace, health, and hospitality markets. Scott, it's an absolute pleasure to see you again, to have you join us here on CFOs in Motion. I always enjoy our conversations. Welcome, welcome, welcome.
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Scott Settersten2:42
Good morning, Andy. Nice to see you again as well, and I'm happy to be here today. Thank you.
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Andrew Zizes2:47
Glad to have you, Scott. Let's jump right into our conversation. Ulta Beauty is an incredible company and you've accomplished some really great things there. I imagine you're having a... given what's going on in the world, you know, their supply chain problems and other very significant challenges. Ulta's net sales for the first quarter of 2022 jumped 21.3% to $2.3 billion. That's tremendous. And more customers have joined Ulta's Ultimate Rewards loyalty program. How did you do that given what's going on in the world?
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Scott Settersten3:35
Well, as you can imagine, we are very happy with the strong start to our fiscal 2022. So again, despite all the turmoils, disruptions, and uncertainties that we've all been dealing with, the beauty category once again has kind of demonstrated its resiliency, right? In spite of all those kinds of things. So again, we're in... I would also say that part of our performance, the over-performance both on operating and the financial end, is due to our good planning and execution, right? So again, all that is part and parcel of what we do here every day and what the finance function does to help support the business. I would say regarding the loyalty program, that's a very important ingredient to our secret sauce. As you probably saw, we have over 37.5 million active members in our Ultimate Rewards program, and they drive over 95% of our total sales. So again, very important part of the mix overall and something that our team spent a lot of time focusing on. The growth we saw some growth coming out of the COVID situation, right? People are back shopping and engaging, especially in our category. So I would say the growth that we saw in the first quarter, which was outsized, is largely due to people coming back into our physical stores, right? And engaging with our beauty-loving associates, where they get a chance to hear more about the benefits and the reasons why they should be part of the program.
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Andrew Zizes5:42
Wow, that's tremendous. So in doing the many things that you do at Ulta, you helped lead the company to an omni-channel approach, and now the consumers are actually coming into stores and have been doing that for many months. Do you expect that the company will... As retailers in general, US and all of retail, kind of recognize the acceleration of the consumer move into more of an e-commerce or digital kind of shopping experience, we were quick to get on the investment cycle, right? Investing in capabilities to enhance our websites, our digital apps, building more distribution center and supply chain capabilities to help meet the demand. And so we immersed ourselves in all that. And of course, Wall Street, you probably remember, was pretty skeptical that old guard retailers were going to be able to compete with the new direct-to-consumer models that were out there and starting to dominate the space. So I'm happy to say we closed our stores back in March, April, May timeframe back in 2020, and so we were able to quickly pivot over to being a 100% online or digital-only kind of business. And so that really helped mitigate a lot of the pressure that we were feeling, because nobody would have ever imagined us having to close doors with an unknown target date in mind. That was a pretty scary period of time, I would say. So us and other old-line retailers, I guess I could call them, learned our lessons, were able to pivot. And now we see, with additional capabilities like buy online, pick up in store, or curbside services, we're really making the most out of these new capabilities and delivering not only increased revenues but also improved profitability through some of these additional capabilities. So we've said before that we believe brick and mortar is an important part of our business, super critical, as is the digital piece. And so we plan our business to grow both of those channels as we look out over the longer term.
So with all the trends between digital and in-store, how does Ulta forecast consumer trends, like for example the move to prestige cosmetics?
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Scott Settersten8:43
Yeah, so what makes Ulta Beauty kind of unique is the wide range of our assortment, right? We go across price points, high to low. We carry all kinds of different products from mass to prestige. They're out there scanning the horizon around the world, seeing what's going on with consumers and beauty regimens. And so they think about runway shows, the entertainment industry, all the social media influencers, and of course our vendor partners, who do a lot of R&D and try to keep up with trends as well. They take all that information back, we huddle up with our vendor partners to figure out how we bring that to life and how we can bring it to market to satisfy consumers' appetites for those kinds of things. And then we try to bring it to life in our stores and online. So there's always something. That's a great thing about our category. There's always something: the seasons changing, the new products, supporting existing products that have been winners, and bringing in new products.
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Andrew Zizes10:11
Tell us about that, and specifically how does finance play into that effort?
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Scott Settersten10:20
Yeah, so what you just described there is really the heart of our business, right? The assortment, making sure you have the products and services that consumers are looking for. So it really comes down to collaboration between the core teams that are working on these kinds of initiatives and objectives. As I just mentioned, the merchants are charged with going out and identifying newness to bring to our business, working with a lot of different third-party data points to try to determine what's going to be when they're dealing with our vendor partners. And then they get support. So here comes the first part of the collaboration with our merchandise planning and inventory teams, or MPNI teams. They work with the merchants to figure out how much of this can we sell, what kind of profit margins can we make, and how are we going to make the math work on that part of it. Then the MPNI team hooks up with the supply chain team to determine what the product flow is going to be: when's it going to be shipped, when's it going to be received, how is this going to flow through our network out to the stores, the allocations there, because not every store operates just like other stores, right? You kind of have a range of productivity there. And then how much do we keep for the digital channel? They work with the merchants, they work with MPNI, they work with supply chain to figure out what the cost, you might call it cost of ownership or cost to serve, it's described different ways, but we figure out what the profit equation is going to look like through each step there to make sure holistically we understand what this decision is going to mean for us. And of course, as we're adding new products to the assortment, we're also thinking about products that we're going to remove, because we've got a limited amount of space. Our objective is to try to make that space, whether it's in a store on a shelf or in our distribution centers on a shelf, as productive a space as we can possibly make it. So I'm proud to say our FP&A team is viewed as a real key partner in the business. It's very essential in the context of the overall enterprise.
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Andrew Zizes13:10
How has the company identified ways to get closer to its online customers?
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Scott Settersten13:19
Yeah, I would say a misconception by many is that online is some special pool of customers, you know what I mean? It's not really the case. The way we see it, an online customer is every customer, right? Our mindset as an omni-channel retailer, and I'm sure this is prevalent, is that every transaction, whether it's in the store or on a digital platform, is in some way influenced by our digital assets, right? People research, they do their due diligence, they look at tutorials, they try to get informed. Social media plays a big role. Maybe we send you a loyalty email, or they see a video somewhere on a TikTok platform or Instagram, and then they try to figure out where they're going to find that product and purchase that product. So it's an end-to-end process here, and we are focused on all the different steps in there. For example, our website or our app, as they're looking through Ulta, how do we make the navigation easier so that they can find the products quicker? How do we bring more information so that they can educate themselves about the products? So we might be adding things around ingredients, health-conscious kinds of things, or are these products animal tested or not? We might think about things like augmented reality, like virtual try-on, which is a very important part of our business and is in a lot of retail, but beauty especially. You can try to see color on your face, your lips, you can look at hair color, you can do a lot of things through augmented reality. We work on things like AI and think about ways we can serve up complementary products to people as they're shopping or getting ready to check out on our website or our app. There's a litany of things like payment options for people. You might have heard of things like buy now, pay later, which is a big trend now, especially with Gen Z shoppers. So there's a lot of different elements to how we think about getting closer to our online customers.
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Andrew Zizes16:11
What's old is new again. You're absolutely right, Andy. We've been around too long, I'd say. So let me ask you, as online becomes such an important part of retail and certainly the digital aspect of Ulta Beauty's focus, are you concerned about the 800-pound gorillas in the digital world, Amazon, Walmart, and other companies?
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Scott Settersten16:32
Yeah, the short answer is yes. The longer answer is the beauty category has always been very competitive. I've been in it now for over 15 years, and it's always been super hyper-competitive because it's dynamic, it's a growing category, and it's got a healthy margin profile, right? So we compete with mass and drug stores, we compete with department stores, we compete with big box discounters, of course all the specialty retailers, and then all the direct-to-consumer platforms that are out there as well. So yes, competition, we watch them all closely and keep close tabs on developments and what we should be thinking about as well in our business. There's always enhancements occurring there. But our focus is playing offense. We know our model works. We've been successful for a long period of time. We know how to connect with our consumer. We believe we have better customer insights than most all of our competitors do. And so we feel like we need to be aware, but we're not going to be distracted by what they're doing. We're going to focus on our own game. There's a proliferation of things going on in the marketplace right now to take friction out for the consumer, consumer-friendly kinds of things. Same-day shipping is not something that everyone needs or everybody wants, and it kind of depends on the category and what the items are. So again, we're just focused on making sure we're meeting expectations for our guests.
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Andrew Zizes18:37
You mentioned big box and mass retailers. Ulta's got a partnership with Target. Can you talk a little bit about that and share with us, will there be other partnerships with other mass retailers?
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Scott Settersten18:48
Yeah, so we're very excited about the Target relationship. The Ulta Beauty at Target, some might call it, is a curated assortment of our products, ranging different categories and price points. It's not an effort to replicate a full Ulta inside of a Target store. That's not what we're going after, and that's why we believe it's more innovative than similar kinds of concepts we've seen over time. So it's an opportunity for us to build awareness inside Target. They've got, I think, more than 30 million shoppers inside a Target front door every week in the United States. So it's a great opportunity for us to stay top of mind to our guests, the beauty shoppers who also shop at Target. There's no surprise there. People love Target stores, and it's an opportunity for us to have a beauty advisor to help guide the shopper inside the store, to get them linked up with our loyalty program, and to get them to connect with us in a full-line Ulta Beauty shopping experience at some point, right? So that's the virtuous loop we're looking to build. It's still really early. We're just maybe about 200 stores worth now, with more coming in the years to come. And we believe over the long term it's a great awareness-building activity and will lead to stronger sales for us over the long term.
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Andrew Zizes20:48
Very creative approach. Talk to me, Scott, about Ulta's new UB Media initiative.
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Scott Settersten21:12
Yeah, so we've seen a lot of other retailers dip their toes in and have built pretty significant businesses around this concept of media and marketing on behalf of vendor partners and others. So for us, this was something we announced last year at our analyst day. We just kicked it off here within the last couple of months. So it's a way for us to bring to bear the value of our first-party data. Again, over 37.5 million loyalty members that we have deep insight into: what they buy, what their habits are, what the trends are as they shop across all the categories in our store. We're in a very unique position. Nobody knows beauty like Ulta Beauty. It's all the categories. We kind of play the middleman. You've probably heard those old jokes about marketing: you know 50% is productive and the other 50% is kind of like a black hole, because it's hard to measure television advertising and some of the other deployments you use in a marketing campaign. So what we bring to the table is more measurable, more personalized, because we know who's shopping. And with the internet tracking and the wealth of cookies making it a lot more difficult now, that's one of the elements. The fact that we're doing away with a lot of that means we can serve up advertising. Think about little mini vignettes or videos, placement banner ad kinds of things on all kinds of platforms, third-party open platforms like Instagram and YouTube, as well as our own digital assets, our website, our app. So we can bring to bear the advertising marketing materials of the vendor. And then another virtuous part of the cycle is we can help direct the shopper back to Ulta properties to transact on those beauty products. So it's a win-win situation, and that's the way we always think about our business and doing business with our vendor partners.
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Andrew Zizes24:11
Absolutely. Everything you've spoken about so far has to do with not only the people who are your customers but the people in your organization and how much you rely on good people. How, as CFO, are you coping with what every great company is coping with today: the ability to attract and retain great talent?
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Scott Settersten24:33
Yeah, well, we're not immune. Like everybody else, I'm sure that's listening to this is grappling with the talent and people issues that have come about through the course of the COVID disaster, I guess I'll call it. So everybody is kind of reassessing their work status, how they think about health. We've had to deal with that just like everybody else. I would say our culture has really helped us weather the storm maybe better than others. Stretching way back now, the culture focus of our company has been right at the top of the list. Our engagement scores have always been upper quartile across a wide spectrum of businesses, even higher versus other retailers. So we've always felt really comfortable and good about our position there. The leadership of the company, people like them, they believe in the mission, what we're all about, what our mission of the company is, and how we go about taking care of our business, how we treat people. We're feeling pressure like everybody is in this environment, so we're managing our way through that. But just listening to our people, what's the most important thing to our associates right now? It's workplace flexibility and where I do my job. So we're trying to be really open-minded about how we manage our way through all that, making sure we can drive the business but also provide as much flexibility to our people as possible. Career development is still super important to people, whether they're physically next to you or not. How do I grow my career? They're thinking about the teams they work with, making sure they get recognition for all the good work that they're doing. So it's not all about the dollars and cents. It's still about the culture and the environment. We're looking for specific skill sets, like IT folks, PMO folks that can help us. We've got a lot of large-scale IT projects that are in process right now. All of that is leading to the future of retail and how we operate our business. I'd say generally speaking, the talent pool is good, it's deep. We're finding the people that we need to add to our business, but it's taken longer. No surprise, it's taken longer to recruit, cultivate, and onboard people. And of course, the cost is going up, like it is for everybody. So that's just another variable we have to deal with.
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Andrew Zizes27:51
Yep, costing everything going up. Yeah, last summer at this time we were in the throes of it, and so that was a pretty difficult undertaking because of all the uncertainty. Even back then we were kind of talking about economic maybe slow downs and pullbacks and those kinds of things. So we went through the process last summer and we had an analyst day last October where we updated investors on how we were thinking about the future of the company. So I think, as I mentioned earlier, of course we're a growth business and we expect to continue to grow both our brick and mortar channel, maybe 50 or so net new stores every year is what we expect to see here the next few years, and we expect to have healthy growth in our digital channel. We're lapping the anniversary and cycling over some pretty big numbers from the depths of the COVID situation, but we feel like our model is stronger today than it was pre-pandemic for a lot of different reasons, part of it being the whole channel shift thing and the pendulum kind of swinging back. So we feel good about our long-term outlook for the business. 2022, there's still a lot of uncertainty. I'm sure you're keeping up on the news headlines as we all are about the inflationary pressures, interest rates, and all the other things happening here. So we're just taking what I'd call a prudent approach to expectations for the second half of the year, because nobody really knows what's going to happen.
Are there any things in particular that are in front of the company: inflation, sourcing, supply chain, energy cost, wage pressure, geopolitical issues? Are there any things in particular that the company is focused on more than some of the other issues that companies are focused on?
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Scott Settersten30:43
Yeah, I'll take answer D: all of the above. This is the question that all CFOs I know are grappling with these days. I talk to a lot of them. So everything is on the table. Price increases because the vendors' cost of making the products is going up, and so it just becomes a question of when and how much. So it's occupying a lot of mind space these days for me and many of my colleagues here. At Ulta Beauty specifically, retailers go close to the end of the month, so we're just getting ready to close out our second quarter this coming Saturday. We've reset our sales outlook for the second half of the year, and now we're working through the rest of the P&L variables. There'll be a lot of scenario analysis: what if this, what if that. There's a wide variation in outlooks on what's going to happen, like risk of recession, how impactful could it be, how long could it last. You look at the economists and the banks and what they're thinking could happen here in the second half of the year or early 2023. It's hard to know. There has been a trend here. You don't ignore the signs. There's been a spate of recent earnings downward adjustments from well-known retailers recently: Walmart, Target, Bath & Body Works, and others. So that's something we're seriously considering. The flow of information is important. We have a dashboard that tells us how our business is doing, how the consumer is reacting to things. Every day at 9 o'clock I know what the sales were the day before, what the selling margin was. So it's a comfort to have real-time information on how your business is reacting. The beauty category itself is resilient, as I mentioned. There's a replenishment element to it. People use up shampoos and sunscreen and things like that, they have to buy more. So there are things they need and things they don't necessarily need but they want. This comes back to the fashion, the runway, the newness, the season. So makeup, the new lip color, whatever it is coming. That's something unique that we have. We know what to do, we know what muscles to flex, and so we just need to be prepared to take action.
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Andrew Zizes34:16
Wow, Scott, that's tremendous. We're coming down to the home stretch on our interview, and I really just have one more question. Given all you've done at Ulta, your previous background, and the things you do outside the company, there are CFOs and future CFOs who will be watching this show. What advice would you give to those folks, whether they're current CFOs or potential CFOs, about how best to drive growth in times like this?
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Scott Settersten34:43
Yeah, so I talk to a lot of CFOs in a lot of different forums, and I don't think it's any secret to long-serving successful CFOs that the blocking and tackling, the accounting, the controllership, the treasury, the tax, the internal audit, the Sarbanes-Oxley, all those control kinds of things, that's table stakes. You're expected to be a subject matter expert and to deliver excellence on each one of those pieces every day, no questions asked. That's just getting a seat at the table. The value that a good CFO brings is finding a way to be part of the strategy and the value creation drivers of the business for the long term. Driving a successful growth strategy, which of course people are a big part of that, it's not just all the X's and O's of what has to be done necessarily, but how you pull your teams together. I like to describe myself as when I'm in the strategy meetings or talking about a new business endeavor or an M&A opportunity, I put the finance hat in my pocket and put the general manager's hat on my head. I partake and think about the business and help ideation as though I'm one of the functional leaders of the business, thinking about how we're going to drive growth and optimize the business overall. Then when the proper time comes, I put that hat away on the shelf and put my finance hat back on, because now I'm the expert and I'm going to help develop the algorithm: the sales, margin, and capital allocation implications from these decisions. The qualitative part of it, the general manager part, and the quantitative part of it, the CFO part, fit together nicely, and it's easy to explain to your associates, your board members, and most importantly to investors. So that's the recipe that's worked for me for a long time and made me a successful CFO here at Ulta Beauty.
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Andrew Zizes37:33
Well, apparently it's worked well for Ulta as well. Scott, your insights about Ulta Beauty and your accomplishments at the company, they're all incredible. All I could say is congratulations on a truly great story and congratulations on Ulta Beauty's success. Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts with us, your insights, and for being with us today.
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Scott Settersten38:07
Thank you, Andy. Appreciate it.
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Andrew Zizes38:10
To learn more about Scott Settersten, visit the company online at ulta.com or stop into one of the company's over 1,300 stores. Now, if you'd like to learn more about CFO Intelligence or if you'd like to be considered for a CFOs in Motion video interview, please contact me at [email protected]. It's been great visiting with you today, Scott. Thank you again. I'm Andrew Zizes for CFO Intelligence and for CFOs in Motion. We'll see you again real soon.
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Narrator38:46
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