About Roman Regelman
Roman Regelman, Senior Executive Vice President and Global Head of Securities Services & Digital at BNY Mellon, discussed the bank's approach to digital assets in an August 2021 interview. He stated that BNY Mellon is responsible for custody of $45 trillion of assets, which he described as more than double U.S. GDP and roughly 20 percent of all assets in the world. Regelman defined custody as "safekeeping: making sure that what you have is sound, secure, kept and protected." He noted that assets are becoming more digital, including cryptocurrencies, stablecoins, central-bank issued digital currency, and tokenized assets. He described a stablecoin as "a digital representation of some underlying asset" and said tokenization allows fractional ownership of assets like real estate or art, with the promise of decreasing transaction costs.
Regelman said BNY Mellon has "an opportunity but also an imperative to provide custody to all the assets" and must play a similar role in digital asset custody as it does for stocks and bonds. He characterized the shift as "evolution" and "normal," stating that as an asset becomes part of the mainstream, the bank needs to be there. He also said that "innovation and trust have been part of our DNA since Alexander Hamilton founded the Bank of New York."
Source: AI-verified profile updated from Roman Regelman's recent appearances.
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Transcript (9 segments)
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Ashley0:12
View of blockchain, cryptocurrency, and DLT technology for folks who may not know. BNY Mellon plays an incredibly important role and I think a unique role in the U.S. and global financial system. We're going to talk about all of that in just a moment. But first, Roman, tell us a little bit about your background. You have an interesting background in mathematics and consulting. Tell us a little bit about how you got to where you are today.
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Roman Regelman0:40
Ashley, I'm really excited to be here. It's a great opportunity for me, for us to bring our story to your viewers. It's a great platform. So let me start with the story of how I got here. I was an early fintech entrepreneur, that was before the name fintech. We called it e-commerce at the time. And then I ended up in consulting completely by chance. Maybe that's a story for another interview. In consulting, I focused on two things: I always worked on digital, and I spent the majority of my time on the securities servicing industry. So when I had an opportunity to join Bank of New York Mellon, it's the first head of digital in our 237-year-old history. I already thought that's the best job in the world. I run our largest business, which is securities servicing, and I also lead digital across the enterprise. So often people ask me which hat are you wearing, and I say there is only one hat, it's two titles but one hat. Fundamentally, digital is our business and the business is becoming increasingly digital. The line between digital and what's not has absolutely blurred. I'm thrilled to be leading the business that is becoming digital in every interaction.
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Ashley2:45
So let's rewind the clock a little bit. Give folks a sense of what BNY Mellon does. You mentioned 237-year-old bank. Obviously, for people who have... whose importance isn't really well understood outside the industry itself. Tell us a little bit about that global custody business, what it is and why it's so significant.
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Roman Regelman3:21
Yeah, so global custody business. We're responsible today for custody of $45 trillion of assets. I just want to make sure that everyone is hearing this. This is like more than double U.S. GDP. It's a massive, massive number. Domestic number which is basically roughly 20% of all assets in the world. So 20% of all assets in the world. Think about every stock when they trade, a stock exchange. Think about every bond. Custody really means safekeeping the asset, making sure that what you have is sound, is secure, it's kept, it's protected. In early days, custody was very physical. You give me a piece of paper, it's a valuable piece of paper, and put that in a vault. Or you have a piece of gold, you don't want to keep a piece of gold in your living room. Most people don't. You give it to somebody to keep that. Or I need to transport something from point A to point B, from Europe to the U.S., and I give it to somebody and you say please take good care of that, keep it in your custody. Of course, custody in a digital form. When you go and buy shares of a stock, you buy it through your broker, but you really want to make sure you have what you have. So custody is a record that you, Ashley, have 100 units of that stock, and you can rely on somebody to know that you absolutely have that. Nothing will happen to it. It doesn't matter what will happen with your broker, it doesn't matter what will happen with any other industry participant. You have it. That's what custody is about.
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Ashley5:50
This is such a critical idea that it doesn't really matter what happened from the person that you buy the stock from once it's custodied. Years ago, these were stacked and then we moved toward this bookkeeping, this book entry method of custodying statistics. And so now it brings us to this key inflection point that we're at with the digital age. Tell us a little bit about how you guys think about that at the bank.
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Roman Regelman6:32
So, first of all, custody is already increasingly digital. When you buy that 100 shares, you don't get a certificate. You get an email, right? It shows up somewhere only on your statement, and the statement being an electronic statement. So in many ways, the digital assets, needless to say, in a digital customer, the customer is becoming more digital and assets are becoming more digital. So if you picture this continuum, we went from physical custody of very physical assets to more of a digital custody of physical assets, and now we're talking about digital custody of digital assets. So what do we mean by digital assets? It's a whole spectrum of things. The cryptocurrencies are certainly digital assets, and we know within cryptocurrency, obviously we all talk about Bitcoin, but there are many of them. There are central bank issued digital currency. So in essence, we have a dollar and we have a digital dollar, we have a euro and we have a digital euro. Some countries are already making pretty significant steps. And the last category, which is actually very meaningful, is what we call tokenized assets. The token is the asset. It could be a security, it could be real estate, it could be a piece of art. So as an example, there is a big building, and this building is in essence fractionalized. Of course, many of these things are available in the current world, but using blockchain technology makes these things simpler, in many cases more accessible, and frankly has a promise of decreasing transaction costs.
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Ashley9:28
So we're talking about effectively the potential here to digitize all of the world's assets. The things that are already trading in a book entry format, but also new classes of on-chain assets, the tokenization, the fractionalization of things like real estate, art, cash flows even flowing off other securities. It's truly a brave new world. This is a massive mandate, a massive opportunity. How do you think about the responsibility that comes with that?
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Roman Regelman10:10
I mean, in many ways, it's a very significant position. In other ways, it's really part of our DNA. 237 years old, of course we fundamentally stand for trust. People trust us all over the world. When I talk about what is custody, custody is about trust. Custody is about safekeeping. But as we just discussed, the industry evolves. It evolves all the time. So the word innovation has been really present in our DNA, in our culture from the beginning. Alexander Hamilton, who founded Bank of New York, I mean, it wasn't absolutely innovative. And Bank of New York was the first issuer of what's called a fugio coin, which was a metal coin, and it was the first U.S. instrument. So obviously we went away the wrong way, but the reason I'm saying this is because it's trust and innovation, innovation and trust, that will always be part of our DNA. So today, as the assets evolve, as digital assets become much more of a part of the mainstream, we feel we have an opportunity but we also have an imperative to provide custody to all the assets, much like we provide custody to baby certificates. And for all the stakeholders, for us to play a similar role in digital asset custody. So it's evolution for sure, but it's just normal. Because as the asset becomes part of mainstream, we need to be there.
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Ashley12:26
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