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Sachin Mehra
Chief Financial Officer, Mastercard Inc

Mastercard CFO Isn't Worried About a Recession

🎥 Aug 04, 2022 📺 BloombergTelevision ⏱ 3m
Mastercard CFO Sachin Mehra explains why a possible recession shouldn't hurt the company's core consumer payments business. He speaks with Lisa Abramowicz on Bloomberg Chief Future Officer. (Corrects full screen graphic)
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About Sachin Mehra

In August 2022, Mastercard CFO Sachin Mehra discussed the company's resilience in a potential recession, stating that consumers typically shift from discretionary to non-discretionary spending, but the payment rails for debit and credit remain unchanged. He highlighted Mastercard's expansion into B2B payments, a market he said is expected to reach $25 trillion, and described the company as being in a "build phase" to establish an open-loop environment for accounts payable. Mehra noted that Mastercard's services segment, including data insights and fraud capabilities, accounts for roughly 35% of revenues, and said the company maintains a healthy leverage ratio to fund strategic acquisitions. Mehra also addressed the broader shift toward a cashless society, citing pandemic-driven acceleration in contactless payments and the conversion of small-ticket cash transactions. He described Mastercard's role in the crypto ecosystem as an "on-ramp" for everyday transactions, emphasizing stability and regulation. On capital allocation, Mehra said the company prioritizes business growth through strategic investments, share buybacks, and dividends, and advised CFOs to stay calm, communicate clearly, and focus on strategy beyond financial fundamentals.

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When they pivot into food, they pivot into rent, those kinds of payments which are most important for them to meet, but the rails still stay the same. So the rails which run debit and credit are exactly the same, the technology is the same, the distribution models the same. So those areas don't necessarily change by virtue of moving into more of a debit or credit environment. One area that Mastercard has been moving vigorously into is B2B payments, a market expected to reach 25 trillion dollars by the end of the decade. We think there's tremendous promise in the B2B area. The card business, as in the elements of the B2B space which are served by cards, are doing well, are doing very well. And it's in the small business space, in the mid-market, it's in the large corporate space. All of them do different to consumer payments where there is a global standard. The global standard is Mastercard, the global standard are card payments because that's been established. That isn't quite established yet in B2B. And I think the more benefits we bring into the payments that are easier than just making a really complicated cross-border payment, I think we will find our way there. And I'm going to see an explosion of creativity, a lot of other companies coming in and using those rails, innovating on top of them, pursuing new opportunities. It takes capital. Mastercard has spent billions acquiring companies that add capacity and diversify its infrastructure. Acquisitions and partnerships have helped Mastercard offer more value-added services to their clients, tapping into a lucrative revenue stream. What we call services includes different parts of Mastercard as well. From a balance sheet perspective, Mastercard has maintained a healthy leverage ratio even as it's put more resources into acquisitions and taken on more debt, giving the company flexibility to continue investing. We don't go in and say, well, right now valuations are lower than they were a year ago, let's go and buy something. That is an opportunistic approach that doesn't work for us. For me, it always starts with what are we trying to accomplish from a strategy standpoint, what are our inherent capabilities we as a company have, what are the gaps in our inherent capabilities to meet that strategy, and then for those gaps, is it best to build, buy, or partner? And then we're out there and we're trying to find the right companies together and make sure that we have a clear view on.