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Sidney Deboer
Founder & Chairman, LITHIA MOTORS INC -CL A

Sid DeBoer - Founder & Chairman of the Board of Lithia Motors

🎥 Aug 30, 2016 📺 KOBI-TV NBC5 ⏱ 6m 👁 1261 views
On tonight's Five on 5, we are joined by the Founder and Chairman of the Board of Lithia Motors, Sid DeBoer discussing Measure ...
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About Sidney Deboer

Sid DeBoer, founder and chairman of Lithia Motors, has described his upbringing in Ashland, Oregon, where he worked at his father's dealership, Lithia Motors, performing tasks such as oil changes and tire work. Following his father's death in 1968, DeBoer said the family "had to have a way to survive" and expanded the business by purchasing a store in Medford. He stated that he has "always had a vision, a 10 year vision" for the company, which as of 2022 had grown to nearly 300 locations and employed about 6,100 people in Southern Oregon. DeBoer has emphasized the importance of providing jobs and opportunity in the region. DeBoer and his wife Karen have focused their philanthropy through the Sid and Karen DeBoer Foundation, supporting organizations primarily in Jackson County. DeBoer said they find it "more rewarding to give generously to one or two organizations that can influence the lives, largely of young people." Their contributions have included $12 million to Southern Oregon University and over $10 million to restore a Girl Scout camp at Lake of the Woods, which was later gifted to the YMCA. DeBoer has also been involved in efforts to add a ski slope on Mount Ashland. In 2016, he publicly opposed Oregon's Measure 97, a proposed tax on large C corporations, arguing it would be passed on to consumers and cost Oregon families an estimated $800 to $1,200 per year. He advocated for a "half a percent gross receipts tax on all companies in Oregon" as an alternative.

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Transcript (15 segments)
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Craig0:04
Welcome to our Five on 5, we're pleased to welcome in Sid DeBoer, the founder and chairman of the board for Lithia Motors. Sid, good to see you. How are you today?
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Sidney Deboer0:10
Thank you very much.
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Craig0:11
So we're here today to talk about Measure 97. What is the average person not know about this measure?
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Sidney Deboer0:17
What an impact it'll have on them. It is not something that's going to be easily swallowed and paid for by big corporations. That is a misnomer that's been propagated by those who are for it. I agree that Oregon needs more revenue but taxing just large corporations like Lithia Motors when our competitors won't have to pay the 2.5 percent sales tax as it were, they can't be passed on to the customer because our competitors won't have to pay it. Lithia Motors is uniquely public and cannot become a regular corporation that won't have to pay this. Only large C Corporations will have to pay this tax so everything from healthcare, from banking, from utilities, from groceries, has got to go up. All of those businesses have very thin margins and can't afford to just swallow a tax on their sales. So everyone in Oregon will pay for this. It is the largest tax increase in the history of Oregon that's being proposed. It's being sold on the premise that it's really going to help schools and it's going to help with Medicaid and it's going to help with the PERS problem in Oregon. I agree totally that those things need solutions but there are better ways, not this way. This is so discriminatory against companies like ours. It takes all of our profits in Oregon in those years where we're just an average earnings season and it takes all of this money, even if we don't make a profit. So it's really difficult for Lithia Motors to deal with Measure 97. I'm asking people to please vote no and help us recreate a new way to tax Oregonians and tax corporations that would be fair to all corporations. Something like a half a percent gross receipts tax on all companies in Oregon, including smaller businesses, and everyone would pay it and it would be a credit against what they were obligated to pay in their income tax. So no one would get a tax cut out of it and it would give the state more revenue and it would be a consistent revenue that wouldn't go up and down with earnings. And that would provide help for the schools and PERS and Medicaid and all the problems Oregon faces. We have tried to propose that. There's two or three of the state senators, in fact Alan Bates was for this and so was Mark Hass, who's one of the leaders in the legislature in Oregon, and of course my brother Allen is running based on the premise that he's going to help change some of these things in Oregon and he's got an opposition to Measure 97 as well. People do not understand that this is the largest tax increase and they're going to mostly pay for it.
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Craig3:06
Okay, so how do you respond to people who say that, I guess, it seems like everybody has a different financial study they are pointing to. You know, the big corporations like yourself have come together and supported a study that says exactly what you're saying. Another, the unions I believe have come together with a financial report that says that it won't be passed down to the consumer. How do you respond to that?
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Sidney Deboer3:27
Well first of all, the corporations have not done a study, okay. And we took the study that was done by the independent legislative body that evaluates all measures and puts out a report, how it will impact Oregonians. And they consistently have said it will cost Oregonians every family, and they estimate it somewhere between 800 and 1200 dollars a year, which is around 100 dollars a month for every family in Oregon. And they also estimated that there would be an elimination or reduction in the growth of jobs in Oregon in the private sector by about 38,000 jobs, and that there would be an increase somewhere between 12 and 15,000 public service jobs. So this is an attempt to expand government in Oregon and pay for it on the backs of large corporations when in reality the people, the citizens of Oregon will pay for it, and most of the lower income people will pay more as a share of their revenue and their income than will the more wealthy people.
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Craig4:30
Welcome back to our Five on 5. Again, we're here with Sid DeBoer, the founder and chairman of the board for Lithia Motors. So Sid, we're talking about Measure 97, a corporate tax that you've come out against. If this passes in Oregon this fall, what happens to Lithia Motors? Are you guys going to stay here in Medford?
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Sidney Deboer4:47
We hope to stay because we don't pay taxes as a corporation because we're in Oregon. Our stores that are in Oregon pay a tax and we're wrestling with how we deal with that. There are several options. It's not good for us.
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Craig5:00
Okay, and so you said in part one of this interview that you agree there needs to be more revenue, we need to figure this out. You're looking at an idea that Washington has.
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Sidney Deboer5:14
Well, Washington has a gross receipts tax and it's staged based on the profit margins for the type of businesses. And businesses like ours that only make 2.5 percent can't pay a two and a half percent tax and function in Oregon. And particularly, we can't pass it on. It would be almost 1,000 dollars a car and our competitors aren't going to pay it. We can't charge our customers 1,000 dollars more than the competitors, so it's not an option for us to probably do business in Oregon selling cars. We're big enough, it doesn't hurt our company that badly, but it sure is hard because we started in Oregon, we're an Oregon corporation, we're a Fortune 500 company, and we believe in this state and we want to be part of it and we want to find a better solution than Measure 97. Please vote no on Measure 97.
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Craig6:01
How many car dealerships or car dealers, if you will, in Oregon are Measure C corporations?
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Sidney Deboer6:09
We don't think, there may be a couple now, but we know that they don't have to stay a C corp. They can avoid the tax by becoming an S corp, which means the individuals that own it pay the tax, not the corporation.
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Craig6:23
Okay, and that's something that you don't have an option.
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Sidney Deboer6:24
We have no option. We have over 35 owners, we have thousands of owners, many owners of our stock right here in Medford, Oregon.
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Craig6:32
Okay, stay with us, we'll be right back.