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Evan Regan-levine
Chief Strategy Officer, JBG SMITH PPTYS

2022 CTIA 5G Summit | Keynote: AT&T's David Christopher & JBG SMITH's Evan Regan-Levine

🎥 May 17, 2022 📺 CTIA Everything Wireless ⏱ 19m 👁 277 views
David Christopher, EVP & GM, Partnerships and 5G Ecosystem Development at AT&T, and Evan Regan-Levine, EVP, Strategic ...
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About Evan Regan-levine

At the 2022 CTIA 5G Summit, Evan Regan-Levine described National Landing as "America's first true 5G powered smart city at scale," developed through collaboration between JBG SMITH and AT&T. He stated that connectivity was "second only to talent in importance for location decisions" for new projects, and argued that advanced connectivity should be treated as a "non-negotiable utility" in development, on par with water and power. Regan-Levine said that JBG SMITH achieved carbon neutrality that year, and discussed the concept of a "connected 20-minute city" where people can live, work, and commute without cars. Regan-Levine cited data showing that if 20% of Amazon's 38,000 new jobs in the area did not involve driving, it could remove 8,000 cars from the road annually, saving 4 million gallons of gasoline and nearly 40,000 metric tons of CO2. He also described how sensors and AI can track building usage to adjust energy use and shrink office footprints, citing a company that cut its real estate bill in half after three years of data collection. He emphasized that such technology enables "smaller, more efficient spaces with positive carbon and cost impacts."

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Transcript (23 segments)
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Hello. CTA, long time. It's great to be here with you live, and it really is a little bit better than just a Zoom conference. I'd like to start off my remarks with a little bit of a mind teaser as a warm up. Answer this: what function can create huge boosts in productivity and innovation while at the same time drastically reducing energy and resource use? The answer, of course, is connectivity. We are at a golden age of it. In fact, we're at the beginning of one of the most important connectivity decades of our lives: the 5G decade. Since we talked last year, our industry continues to make great progress with 5G and lay the groundwork for innovation and new business models that are going to be built on this game-changing connectivity platform. We're in the early innings of the decade of 5G, but we have major momentum on our side. The fact that we've rolled out 5G roughly 40 percent faster than 4G is testament to all the hard work of the folks in this room and of our industry. We have over 300 million customers connected to 5G across the major carriers in the United States, and the vast majority of handsets now are sold with 5G connectivity. Critical new capabilities like network slicing and stand-alone core are imminent to scale, and all of this sets us up to create the kind of innovation and disruption that we expect in this next decade. We'll see massive swim lanes of innovation from 5G, from edge, autonomous, virtual and spatial AR/VR/XR, to vertical and horizontal leaps across education, healthcare, manufacturing, gaming, and many more. I think we all know that 5G can also be a springboard and a platform for good, frankly unlike anything we've ever seen. 5G connectivity brings so many opportunities for individuals, for businesses, and for society at large. We're here today to talk about one element: climate. The imperative in front of us: climate change is existential and it must be addressed. It simply can't be passed to others to solve at some future date. The UN climate report from April was a serious wake-up call that we all must play our part in answering. There are many facets of climate and 5G and the positive impact that they can have, but today I want to focus on one domain: smart mixed-use development and the ability to change how our cities are constructed, and the impact that our cities can have on the environment. According to Accenture, cities produce 70% of global carbon dioxide emissions. When you layer in transportation, they are by far the biggest emitters of CO2 equivalents. According to CTA, we think that 5G can help reduce or remove the equivalent of almost 20 million vehicles a year. Focusing on this domain that I'm here to talk about today, one thing's clear: to achieve our climate imperative, we have to reimagine how cities and development take place and how cities are constructed. So I want to talk about a project that's happening just a few miles away in National Landing. It's essentially America's first true 5G powered smart city at scale, thanks to the collaboration of JBG SMITH, the developer, and AT&T. So let's get right into it. If you could, let's roll this video.
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Narrator4:05
Community, convenience, beauty, connection—they make cities thrive. But can we make our cities cleaner and smarter? Welcome to National Landing, a faster, cleaner, more connected way to move cities forward. JBG SMITH and AT&T have come together to build the promise of the first true 5G city, with AT&T's 5G woven into the infrastructure of virtually every corner of the city. National Landing will deliver world-class placemaking with abundant green housing options and transit choices. National Landing's connectivity infrastructure, including 5G, fiber, and edge, will unlock the potential of smart cities and help make it one of the most earth-friendly and business-friendly places to work and live. It's all about the intelligence, security, and being connected in near real time. A city full of the most useful and usable innovations like connected vehicles, traffic lights, and more. 5G enabled smart city management allows for smarter resource management like monitoring of the water network. This idea is just a ripple in the wave of smart cities to come. The power of the art of the possible, brought to you by AT&T 5G and the physical and digital placemaking of JVG SMITH.
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So this is an incredible use case of advanced connectivity in 5G, and it's all happening just a few miles from the nation's capital. Imagine what this means at scale when you see this type of development happening across the country. The environmental aspects are huge, but also the economic and the industrial. So with that, please help me welcome Evan Reagan-Levine of JBG SMITH to talk about exactly what's happening here just a few miles away.
Great, welcome, thank you. Thank you, Evan. It's great to be here. Great to have you here. So I don't think everybody's familiar with what's going on with your company just down the road. Why don't you give them a sense of this, and then we'll jump into the climate impacts and the connectivity impacts that... sure thing.
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Evan Regan-levine6:17
Thanks everyone for having me. Really excited to be here. A little bit different than the real estate stuff I typically do, so very exciting to be here. When we think about what National Landing is, National Landing is a project that before we even started, it's an existing neighborhood. It's an existing neighborhood with an office market the size of the Austin, Texas CBD. It's home to Amazon's second headquarters and it's home to Virginia Tech's billion dollar innovation campus. JBG is the master developer of this 15 million square foot project ranging four miles and a hand that's being built top to bottom with next generation feature connectivity. Now we love acronyms in the telecom industry, but CBD—that's a new one I've had to learn some of your acronyms along the way.
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Host6:58
So it's almost the same size as the core of Austin is what you're saying, and just that's just the office market before we even build Amazon's five million square feet.
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Evan Regan-levine7:06
Yeah, it's an amazing—it's one of the biggest developments happening in the United States. Absolutely, and it's right here.
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Host7:13
Talk to me about how the last two years have redefined everything—since COVID, how people live, how they work, how they play is completely different. As a developer, you're trying to figure out how to skate to where the puck is going in a world where we don't even know how we're going to bring office workers back. So how do you think about addressing the environmental impacts of a development like this, and how that appeals to the people that are ultimately going to occupy it either as residents or as businesses?
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Evan Regan-levine7:50
Well, we always start when we think about a new project by thinking about what our user cares about, what the customer wants. Actually, even pre-COVID, we went out and talked to a lot of different tech and telecom executives. We wanted to figure out from folks like the people in this room: what do you care about when you make a location decision? How do we think about not only what Amazon did but what everyone else is thinking about? We know that talent was of number one importance, but second to talent was connectivity—and that surprised us honestly. We didn't really know how to think about that. We were used to building great places that had physical placemaking, and this really opened our eyes to having to build digital placemaking as well and think about that connectivity layer. When COVID happened, we saw a massive sea change in our industry. There's a move away from commuting to the office five days a week; there's a change in the way cities have to function. But we still thought at the time we were on the right path because we were ahead on the connectivity point, but we were also thinking about how do we create that 20-minute city, how do we make more people walk and bike to work, and how do we change the workplace so it's actually an appealing place to go? The connectivity layer is an important part of that, but it drives a big environmental outcome.
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Host8:56
So talk to me about the environmental outcome. At the end of the day, cities have to reinvent the footprint they make on the environment. It's critical in terms of efficiency for you guys, but it's also critical in attracting people who are going to live there. For us, it's a competitive dynamic, and we have to think about how do you build the city that's going to be appealing? A big part of that is making it walkable.
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Evan Regan-levine9:14
We achieved carbon neutrality this past year; we're very excited about that. But how do we go beyond that and say it's not just about making our buildings and our portfolio carbon neutral, but about delivering that connected 20-minute city where people can live, work, shop, and walk or bike to work? I'll tell you one example: we looked at Seattle's South Lake Union and realized very quickly that Amazon shared with us that 20% of their workforce walked or biked to work. It became our challenge to say how do we get that to be 30%, 40%, and how do we keep more workers coming into an office as a collaborative space but also having the tools they need to work from home? That's how people will make decisions about their office location, their residential location, and how those two overlap. We want to shorten that commute.
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Host10:07
Let's just talk about that one element in terms of reduction of cars on the road—the transportation element alone. Give us a sense of the removal of vehicles from the road.
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Evan Regan-levine10:20
Sure. The rough math on this: if you figure Amazon's going to add about 38,000 jobs and for each Amazon job there are follow-on technology companies, as that ecosystem expands, if we say that 20% of those people aren't going to get in a car to come there—that baseline Seattle number—then you're talking about eight to ten thousand people. They're living in that neighborhood, depending on follow-on demand, not taking a car into their office. The other thing that came with Amazon: they helped bring enhancements to public transit, building a walkable pedestrian bridge to the airport, and enabling all of this with technology so that experience once you're there is better. It's all about getting people out of their cars and making that 20% go to 30%.
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Host11:03
That's incredible. I actually looked it up before this talk: 8,000 cars annually is the equivalent of about 4 million gallons of gasoline a year, or almost 40,000 metric tons of CO2 equivalents. I knew that before but I looked it up to make sure I was right. But okay, so back to connectivity. I would posit that advanced connectivity is a non-negotiable for all development. It's like electricity—you never build a development without electricity; you never build one again without advanced connectivity. So in terms of how do you think about that? Let's break it into two pieces: one is the individual piece—how people live, work, and play—and then we'll talk about the infrastructure side of sensors, of IoT, of AI.
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Evan Regan-levine11:55
It is absolutely utility. My partner Adam Rashid, who helped conceptualize a lot of this build, always loves to say two things: one, real estate houses the economy, and two, this is a utility. When he says this, he means our converged network offering. That's so important because we would never build a project today without making sure there was water and power, and even making sure some of that power was solar or renewable. But we don't think about it—we ignore connectivity and we don't let it happen the right way. We let it go to the market's sort of decision, and left to its own devices, the market doesn't build the kind of connectivity stack we need. We have to find intentional partners just like we have to go out and make sure the utilities in the development function the right way and everyone has access to it. So we always start with that as the baseline, knowing that it needs to be redundant, reliable, and secure. That's how we think about it from a utility perspective. But what that unlocks isn't just the simple prosaic thing about people being able to do their Zoom calls from the park or go from their bedroom to the boardroom to the park on the same network. It also opens up an experience layer. For developers, we're always thinking back to that point: how do you get someone to come somewhere? You have to have a next generation experience, and that next generation experience really comes down to how we deliver an experience layer that runs on that network, takes advantage of that connectivity, surprises and delights, and makes people feel excited about the way they interact with their workplace and their home. I think that's where there's incredible potential for technology to unlock that—specifically the connectivity layer unlocking how we can build that.
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Host13:24
Yeah, and we're in different industries. I would say I wouldn't use the word utility; I would use the word it is an advanced KPI, a critical success factor for your residents and your businesses. It's so critical in how they live and work, but you're right, you can't have it without it.
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Evan Regan-levine13:52
I think you're hitting on an interesting point. The different industries—people in our industry don't always think about that the same way. We've been educated by AT&T and others; we're learning more. For developers, it's something that somebody else does. It's like, 'Great, I want to create a conduit in a building and someone else will take care of that pesky fiber or make sure that there's a mounting point on the side of a building for a small cell.' We don't think about it, and I think that's where our industry is shifting and adapting, driven by needs for more connectivity, to think about it as a KPI and to think about it differently.
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Host14:19
Exactly. So let's talk about the impact of that. It's one of those things that's one step removed. I get how advanced connectivity keeps people from commuting every day. But how else does advanced connectivity start to really reduce your footprint on the environment as a developer?
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Evan Regan-levine14:40
I think there are a couple ways. One—and we've talked about this a lot—is actually understanding more about how people use our buildings. We've said from the outset we're not about collecting PII or information like that; not what we do. But what we do want to know is: is a room empty? Is it full? Is it hot in here? Should I have the HVAC run because I can detect there are a lot of people in the room? So much of what we do today in our industry is antique. Think about how many people swipe their badge to come into the building. It doesn't matter if someone swiped their badge and five people followed them in. I want to know how many people are in a room at a given time so we can adjust energy utilization or even how to plan our product: are people using one amenity, are they not using another? We can shrink our footprints, make them more efficient, and create this adaptable building environment that doesn't exist today in the same way. It can happen in pockets but not across an entire city scale neighborhood enabled by the sensor network.
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Host15:33
It's so interesting. We talk about the stuff academically, but you guys are actually building it. Let's pull the thread on the sensing stuff a little bit more. The ability to impact water consumption, electricity consumption, or heating and cooling, coupled with the AI around it, actually creates a virtuous cycle for your business case for investment. How do you think about that, and how are you going to be the poster child for others to follow?
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Evan Regan-levine16:09
I think it comes down to the fact that one of the things we're known for is mixing uses. You're not going to understand everything about a city if you only understand one piece. If you look through a myopic lens at just departments or just office, it starts with understanding how people move between different uses in a neighborhood. Then it's about saying, 'I can understand how they move, and then I can adjust my sensor network and build out a case that teaches me more about the right kind of product to build.' How do I think about my investment case for building a new amenity if I don't know who's using it or why? How do I think about investing in advanced sustainability technology if I don't have a way to program that in the right sense or learn from the data we're collecting? We have a fairly unprecedented ability to look across this entire place, and because of the massive device density supported by our network, we can have a really good idea what's going on. A lot of places track it over time and apply machine learning to that so that we can start to size our project differently, shape our amenities differently, understand the urban form and the built environment differently. In a time when a lot of people here are rethinking how they use office space, it gives people a chance to say, 'This is what I'm using, this is what I'm not. How do I make the right decision? How do I pick how people interact with my space, and how do I reduce my footprint from having 500 offices to having 100, and then manage those 100 really well from a sustainability perspective?' For the CFOs of the world, having the right data to feel confident that this type of investment is actually going to pay off has been a challenge. It's chicken and egg, and you guys are actually proving it out real time. I'll give you a real life example. We were talking to a company recently that would reduce their office footprint by half. We own office, but we're not Pollyannaish about what's happening in that world and how hybrid work is changing. We don't think office is going away, but we think it's going to change. Some neighborhoods are going to win, some are going to lose. The places that win are the ones that have a better environment. The CFO at that company was looking, saying, 'Can I really cut my space in half?' They used advanced data: they put sensors throughout their space, tracked it for three years, studied how people actually use the space, and then went to their architect and said, 'I want to invest in a more expensive buildout. I want to make the space nicer, put more technology in it, and more sensors. But I'm going to cut my real estate bill in half.' That's typically the way companies look at things like this. They say, 'I'm going to pay more on a dollar per foot basis for better, smaller spaces, but I'm going to enable those spaces with the right technologies.' If you look at the relative cost of putting some sensors in versus paying a landlord in a big city a lot of money for office space, the sensors are always going to be cheaper. If the sensors unlock that ability to shrink their footprint, that has a carbon footprint impact for companies, a real estate cost impact for companies, and it can also have an employee benefit where people say, 'I know I want to come to work in a space that's different.' It's fantastic.
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Host18:51
I wish we could talk for another 45 minutes because there's a lot to unpack here. But as a use case for 5G, it's one of the best ones that we've seen. So thank you for being here, and thank you all for your time today.
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Evan Regan-levine19:01
Thank you so much.