Ted Klink3:23
Yeah, I think it's really too early to know what the impact is going to be on the office sector. Certainly there's a lot of talk and speculation, you can see it on TV or read it in the paper every day about what's the future of office. But at this point, I think no one really knows. I think it's going to evolve over time, very similar to the densification trend that's taken many years to play out. We started hearing about densification 15 or 20 years ago, and it's just played out slowly over the years. I think it's going to be similar to this. In the short term, what we do know is that we've spoken to a lot of our customers in our existing buildings, and those customers are going into our developments and doing space planning right now. What we're generally hearing is that very few of these customers are planning any significant permanent changes to their space layouts or their space needs at this time. I think companies today are really focused on what they can do in the next 12 to 18 months to get past this crisis, and then they'll start to figure out what their real estate needs are and if they're going to change. Companies today don't want to panic and race to redo their work environments just to have to reverse it in the next year or two. So I think instead, and you're already seeing it, companies are going to delay bringing their employees back to work longer than the recommended guidelines, which I think is going to benefit both the employees, as they'll feel safer coming back later, as well as benefit the companies, as they don't have to spend a lot of capex redoing things that they might undo just a few months later. As to the long-term demand for office, I do think more companies will start allowing some of their employees to work from home for some of the time. But at the same time, I think they're going to likely increase the square footage per employee in their office space. So I think the densification trend is over, and I think it's likely going to reverse over time. As a result, the de-densification of office could easily offset the increased work-from-home trend that we may see. In terms of remote working in general, I just don't see how working from home for an entire company 100% of the time is going to be successful over the long term. I think it's very difficult to build a strong, great company culture when everyone's working remotely. I think employees and coworkers want the daily interactions, the collaboration, and the exchange of ideas on a daily basis. Younger employees want a place where they feel like they belong to a company, and they want a place they can go to where they can start to build their internal networks and relationships as they navigate how to advance their own careers. I just don't think you can get that with Zoom or Teams interacting on a daily basis. Another trend that's really been accelerating the last few years is that the workplace has really become a big retention and recruiting tool for companies. I don't see that trend ending. I think they want places where they can recruit and retain employees and have that great work experience. Finally, one other trend I do think is that the Sun Belt markets are going to see increased demand from companies relocating from the Northeast and the dense Northeast markets and the dense West Coast markets. The Sun Belt markets are less dense, we have less mass transportation issues, in addition to being a much lower cost place of doing business and a lower cost of living for coworkers and employees. The migration to the Sun Belt has been a trend for many years, but I think it has an opportunity to potentially accelerate going forward.