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D. Umpleby
Executive Chairman of the Board, Caterpillar Inc.

Caterpillar CEO Jim Umpleby on Q2 earnings beat, growth outlook, China market

🎥 Aug 01, 2023 📺 CNBCTelevision ⏱ 7m
Caterpillar chairman and CEO Jim Umpleby joins 'Squawk on the Street' to discuss the company's quarterly earnings results, rest of year outlook, doing business in China, power generation, and more. For access to live and exclusive video from CNBC subscribe to CNBC PRO: https://cnb.cx/2NGeIvi  » Subscribe to CNBC TV: https://cnb.cx/SubscribeCNBCtelevision » Subscribe to CNBC: https://cnb.cx/SubscribeCNBC Turn to CNBC TV for the latest stock market news and analysis. From market futures to live price updates CNBC is the leader in business news worldwide. Connect with CNBC News Online Get the...
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About D. Umpleby

Jim Umpleby, Executive Chairman of the Board at Caterpillar, has been discussing the company's financial performance and market outlook in recent earnings calls and media appearances. In early 2024, he reported record financial performance for 2023, with all-time record sales and revenues up 13% and adjusted profit per share up 53%. Umpleby attributed the results to the company's global team and noted that supply chain constraints have eased, improving equipment availability. He stated that dealer inventory is in an appropriate range and that the company is not concerned about it. Umpleby also said that China, which typically represents 5 to 10% of total sales, is expected to remain weak, and that the company is investing in sustainability initiatives, including making traditional equipment more efficient and increasing manufacturing capacity for large engines. Umpleby has also addressed the company's strategy and long-term outlook. He stated that Caterpillar introduced a strategy in 2017 focused on operational excellence, expanded offerings, and services, which he said has led to higher operating margins and free cash flow. He noted that the company is investing in digital capabilities and new products, and that the energy transition is expanding Caterpillar's total addressable market, particularly in mining for minerals required for electric vehicles. Umpleby has expressed support for infrastructure legislation and said that the benefits of such bills will play out over time. He has also emphasized the company's commitment to sustainability, diversity and inclusion, stating that a diverse global team helps the company innovate and meet customer needs.

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Transcript (16 segments)
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Jim Umpleby0:10
Quarter results that beat both on the top and bottom line. Chairman and CEO Jim Umpleby. The business you have is probably the best I've ever seen in the history of my watching Caterpillar.
Good morning, Jim. Great to be with you and David this morning.
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Unknown0:31
Tell me, when you're making more, have more demand than you've ever had and making it for less money, what does that do for the bottom line?
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Jim Umpleby0:40
You know, I want to start by thanking our global team for another very strong quarter. Our sales were up 22%. We — all three of our primary segments were up between 19 and 27% on the top line.
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Unknown1:11
Did it. One of the things I thought was very good, you did not hype what could happen in 2024. But there is an amount of infrastructure money coming your way that they want to buy American, I know that from speaking with the people involved. I want to know whether you're prepared for the influx of orders.
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Jim Umpleby1:26
Jim, you know, we do serve a diverse set of attractive markets and talked about all three of those markets on our earnings call. We're starting to see benefit from the bills that passed earlier this year, but 75% of our construction industry's business what is we call nonresidential and we are starting to see some benefit from that. It's uncertain in terms of how long it will take for permitting to occur on certain projects, but we feel that projects will manifest themselves over time which will help us.
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Unknown2:10
You know I own them in my travel trust and a huge believer of 206. This is the bottom you came on, but I want people to understand not everything is perfect, and you've got some examples including the next quarter which some people will say will not be as strong as some would like.
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Jim Umpleby2:27
We expect the third quarter to be up in revenue and margins compared to the third quarter of last year. Sequentially we expect it to be down, second quarter this year to third quarter. That's in line with our normal seasonal pattern and shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. We are still dealing with some supply chain issues. The situation has improved, but we do have areas of challenge, particularly around large engines, which impacts energy and transportation and some of our larger machines. We are dealing, believe it or not, with still some chip issues, which impact things like ...
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Unknown3:11
Say their China business isn't that strong. I think I've got a half dozen businesses you have that matter more than China these days, isn't that true?
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Jim Umpleby3:19
Well, China typically is 5 to 10% of our total company sales, and we told our investors during our first quarter call we expected to be below that range, and the market has gotten weaker so we expect to be down in China. But the good news is, even with the Chinese market below that 5 to 10% of our typical range, we just produced record results again. As I mentioned earlier, we serve a diverse set of end markets: oil, gas, mining, construction.
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Unknown3:48
Yeah. I want to actually ask about another one but come back to China for a second. Not as much as it matters to Cat as broadly speaking, you indicated things ... China we're really talking about that market. That market does move up and down over time. We saw strong years in '20 and '21, a decline in 2022 and a further decline in 2023. I think it's difficult to draw too many analogies from the market that we serve to the total Chinese economy.
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Jim Umpleby4:23
Okay.
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Unknown4:29
I'll try to get you to draw an analogy then for something we talk about every day here which is data center demand in particular. Of course the rise of A.I. and what that's going to mean. I note in your call that was called out early in terms of power generation. Can you explain to our viewers how you're benefiting from that?
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Jim Umpleby4:45
Thank you. We sell backup generator sets for data centers and that business is strong. It's driven by A.I. and a lot of other factors. One of the things that's occurring is more renewables get added to the grid that does create some instability issues due to the intermittent nature of those power sources. We believe that presents an opportunity for us over time, more of a medium and long-term kind of opportunity to sell our reciprocating engines and gas turbine sets for distributed power generation across the grid. And those engines convert a variety of fuels: natural gas, hydrogen, blends, biofuels and the rest.
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Unknown5:39
I think when you talk about that, what people have to realize there's two camps that follow your stock. The camp that says this has to be a cyclical peak and sell it, and then a camp that says wait a second, this man has come in and decided he's going to decyclicalize this company. When I see this quarter I tend ... this company uncyclical and you decyclicalized it?
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Jim Umpleby6:17
Again, I'm very proud of our global team and the hard work they have done. We introduced a strategy in 2017 and it told our investors we would produce higher operating margins at different sales levels and also would produce higher free cash flows, and I'm proud of what our team has done. To your point, we do serve a variety of end markets. Oftentimes people think about Caterpillar they think about construction. Very important segment for us and we're doing well there, but we have other segments as well. So again, just proud of what the team has accomplished. Between 2017 and 2022, for every year except 2020, we produced $5 to $6 billion of free cash flow.