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Christopher Crane
Former President & Chief Executive Officer, Exelon

Leadership Dialogue with Chris Crane, President and Chief Executive Officer, Exelon Corporation

🎥 Apr 30, 2020 📺 S&P Global ⏱ 24m 👁 529 views
(April 30, 2020) Chris Crane, president and chief executive of Exelon Corporation, shares insights on electricity market designs, technological needs for industry, clean energy targets of U.S. states, and the future of the power sector.
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About Christopher Crane

Christopher Crane, a retired Albuquerque police officer, pastor, and missionary, has been appearing on media outlets to discuss his campaign for the U.S. House of Representatives. On the Rabbit Hole podcast, Crane stated that he decided to run because he felt "absolutely no representation whatsoever" and that politicians "just represent their party" rather than their constituents. Crane also described his career as a police officer from 1989 to 2007 and his mission work primarily in Africa. During the interview, Crane shared several personal views. He said he "discovered YouTube" and "got into every conspiracy theory you could think of," and remarked that "Iran is not never has been a Muslim country ever." He stated that "God is using Trump and the United States military" for religious purposes. Crane also discussed his gun store, saying that New Mexico's Senate Bill 17, a firearms law, caused him to fast and pray, as it "caused fear, which is the opposite of faith."

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Transcript (28 segments)
✨ AI-enhanced transcript with speaker attribution
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Larry MacHugh0:06
Good morning and welcome to CERAWeek 2020 Conversations presented by IHS Markit. I'm Larry MacHugh, and with me today is Chris Crane, President and CEO of Exelon Corporation. Good morning, Chris.
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Christopher Crane0:20
Good morning, Larry. How you doing?
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Larry MacHugh0:22
Good. I thought we could talk a little bit about the impact of the COVID-19 outbreak on the power business in general, how that's affecting how the business is run, both in the short and the long run with regard to investment and cash flows. And then shift the discussion to the longer term where we think about how this is going to play out with the climate as well as how this is going to play out with the wholesale market evolution. So thanks, and let's start with this question of the COVID impact on the business. The COVID-19 outbreak is the reason we're doing this over the web instead of face-to-face in early March in Houston, as you've done for many years at CERAWeek. You know, there's been a lot of attention to grocery workers and the frontline people in hospitals, and I haven't heard a lot about the people that kept the lights on. And it makes me think that if we had any kind of outages during this kind of crisis, it would certainly be a big problem. People, the general public, kind of take you for granted that the lights will stay on in a crisis like this.
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Christopher Crane1:31
You know, we have very high percentage of reliability and we have high customer satisfaction numbers at our utilities. I don't think the customers take it for granted. You know, we've had storms before where customers are baking stuff when their power comes back on, bringing it out to the linemen. We have been able to work with the government and local agencies to stress the criticality of our employees, not only for the availability of PPE but the continued access in the stay-at-home orders. And also, we've done a lot of advancement in getting some prioritization on testing for not only the Exelon utilities but through the Electric Sector Security Council, working with the government, getting the recognition that our folks have to stay safe also.
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Larry MacHugh2:32
Right. You know, I know you came up through the nuclear side of the business, and that's a culture that usually thinks a lot about low-probability, high-impact kind of events like this COVID-19 outbreak. When you did your risk assessments corporate-wide, did you have a scenario like a COVID that you'd already fought through?
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Christopher Crane2:57
Yes, definitely. If you go back to the bird flu, we had not seen for a very long time a potential international pandemic, or pandemic which is international. So we had done a lot of planning back at that stage on how to manage through a situation like that. Like many other utilities, we created crisis management teams, and we stood those teams up and had them on the ready not only for this but for other major events. Every day at 4:00 p.m. Eastern, we have about 65 people on the call going through our checklist and making sure, first of all, we get the health report out. We know how many positives, how many have to be quarantined, what are we doing to help in disinfecting areas, that type of thing. So within days, we had the playbook totally in works. And then also communicating very closely with our state, local, and federal officials on what we're doing, keeping the elected officials informed, but keeping all the critical services aligned with us so they're aware of what we need or what we are doing.
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Larry MacHugh4:22
So that certainly seems to be quite a testament to thinking these kind of things through, even though they're not something that's very likely to happen. As you look back on it now with what you've gone through, is there anything that was overlooked or anything that surprised you with how this has played out?
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Christopher Crane4:36
The biggest issue we had, we had a lot of PPE on hand, some of it actually dated back to the bird flu. But our capability of sourcing, while we're competing with other critical infrastructures, hospitals, first responders, in trying to source enough material to keep our folks safe so they can execute their job, has been more difficult than we anticipated. We would not get caught short like this again. We had an order in with a very big supplier at the 1st of January when we started to catch on that there was something going on in China, and that order was for 1.2 million N95 masks. I think we're going to get about 80,000. We've been sourcing from some very reliable candidates. We've had offers from what we found are not reliable candidates. So just making sure that we've got that part intact, the rest of it is just working right off the playbook. And the whole company, the whole corporation, and the individual companies are executing very well. We're performing refueling outages where we have over a thousand people on a site, you know, doing the work to ready the reactor for another two years. We had all the equipment for thermal testing, we had all the equipment for separation, we've been able to enact all of that. But the sourcing of materials has probably been the hardest thing.
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Larry MacHugh6:17
Interesting. So, you know, when we look back across the past decade, the economy grew at about 1.7 percent a year, but electricity demand really didn't go up very much and was pretty flat, even though 2018 was an all-time high. There's been this idea that you've had the linking of electric use and economic activity, but with this very sudden downturn in economic activity, is it seeing a real impact on consumption?
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Christopher Crane6:46
Oh, definitely. You know, not only in our regions but across the country. I think the latest data we've seen is anywhere from three to ten percent on a regional basis. PJM and MISO, our main ISOs, it's definitely right at ten percent now. But through our Constellation organization, we have our retail wholesale group, we're going to our large industrial and commercial customers to try to project their load profiles. We're seeing in that sector, which is different from residential this time, in that sector we're seeing up to a fifteen percent reduction. So we're watching it very closely. You know, seven weeks is hard to say we've got a trend, but we're trying to obtain all the data that we can from the ISOs, from our own meter information, to understand the reaction. And can we correlate this to '08? I don't think we're going to be able to correlate it to '08, but we'll have to see as time goes on what the full demand destruction is.
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Larry MacHugh7:58
There are reports that 4,900 megawatts that were in the queue to build have been suspended. You know, it's going to be tough, especially in the organized markets where they're not designed adequately to support some of the critical resources the states want. So in that regard, with investment spending, has Exelon itself adjusted its capex this year given what's happened?
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Christopher Crane8:26
We have pulled capex back going into the rest of this year. In the nuclear division, we had some non-critical capex that would not affect safety, we've pulled back at this point. We're continuing to spend on the utility side. Five billion dollars will be going in for critical investments for the consumers in electricity and gas, and twenty-five billion over the next five years to continue to meet the consumer demands.
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Larry MacHugh9:12
Now, it's like sales being down, I would imagine as well that people aren't paying their electric bills as rapidly as they normally would month-to-month, and you may even be accumulating some bills that'll never get paid. Having had experience in '08 with the recession, were you well set up with working capital, access to credit, to be able to get through this kind of thing?
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Christopher Crane9:36
We deal with a lot of repo market, the commercial paper, the overnight paper, where you used to be able to go into the market and carry it for ten days. As we saw that market tighten, we were getting some higher rates for a 24-hour loan. And so we took on a strategy, we issued some debt. We had been able to weather it. Now with the Fed coming in, they've done a great job helping support that market, and so we're not seeing the tightness anymore. On bad debt, it's something that we're working hard on now. In all our jurisdictions, as you can imagine, all our jurisdictions have slightly different recovery mechanisms for bad debt. And at this point, all our utilities, and we've extended at once, have put a moratorium on disconnects due to bad debt. And we actually even reconnected customers that were disconnected because of bad debt if they desired that. Bad debt is building up. We have in all jurisdictions some type of regulatory asset that we're trying to put in place, working with the commissions and working with the stakeholders. It becomes a cash issue this year more than an earnings issue, but you'll start to be able to recover it. So like ComEd as a true-up on an annual basis, PECO goes in for a rate case filing and they do a three-year average. So it's not going to be as detrimental in the long run, but in the short term, you know, we have to watch it very closely and make sure we've got the right recovery mechanisms in place.
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Larry MacHugh11:31
Right. You know, when you talk about the short run, when you talk about the lessons from '08, you know, one of the things that I think was interesting, one of the kind of surprises or unintended consequences back in '09 was CO2 emissions in the U.S. went down a lot when economic activity went down. I think it's very likely we're going to see something like that this year as well. And of course, they'll come surging back likely when the economy comes back. Do you think this has put a pause on attention to the climate right now that's going to come back when the economy comes back?
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Christopher Crane12:12
I don't think we're going to know right now. The legislature and all the administrations in our states, for sure, have been focused on the pandemic and the response to health, the safety of the public. I think, you know, you've got 21 governors and how many cities across the country that have made mandates that they want to get to a low-carbon environment. Every one of our service territories has done that. So, you know, we have seen the air quality improve with this, no cars on the road. It's kind of creepy here in Chicago, you look out and you see one or two cars go by every once in a while and no gridlock. But we will see a reduction in CO2. But as the economy comes back, and we have a great dependency on natural gas to blend in with nuclear and blend in with the renewables, I would sense that we would have some increase back again. But I think the focus, like Illinois wants to be 100 percent clean by 2030, they put that out there. I don't see the governor backing away from that unless this pandemic does something very, very critical in the long term to the economy and the health and safety of the public.
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Larry MacHugh13:39
That's interesting because Illinois and there's another handful of states that already have put on the books these kind of mandates to get to 100 percent clean out there in 2040 or 2050. You know, when you think about that, do you think the industry's got the technologies it needs to get there in a cost-effective way that'd be politically tolerable?
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Christopher Crane14:03
The 2030 is going to be a very tough goal to be 100 percent clean. We do not have, as you know, adequate technology around storage that is a long-term, deep storage that can support the grid through periods of no wind and no sun. So there is going to be a dependency for some time on natural gas. I think for the most part we'll move away from, in most of the country, from coal. The economics of the old coal units are doing that themselves. So I think we'll be able to get close, but until we have a breakthrough on storage technology or other technologies that can support the distributed or the other renewables, large-scale renewables, it will be difficult.
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Larry MacHugh14:58
You know, when people talk about this energy transition future, this topic, the decarbonization of electric supply is always a big thing. The other thing we hear a lot about is a lot broader electrification across the economy. And so one thing that I always see missing from that discussion is what does that mean for the size of the power business going forward? And if you guys thought much about significant electrification, transportation or broader in the economy, and what that would mean for the size of the business 20, 30 years from now?
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Christopher Crane15:34
Yeah, it definitely is a very efficient way to continue to clean the environment. You may be able to support some levels of natural gas to keep the system reliable, but you'll have a greater impact if you go to electrification of transportation, more electrification on the industrial side. So we have been working, as all the utilities have been working, on how do we work with our stakeholders on driving further electrification and get their concepts of how they want to do that so we can enable the distribution or the transmission system to support that. You know, we look at every one of our jurisdictions, some have pilots already on EV charging stations, which, you know, it's just a start, it's not a big impact yet, but knowing that we can go there and be able to understand the customer needs, the grid needs, and how to support it. Chicago has the third-highest issue with respiratory illness, it's behind LA and New York. You know, that causes a great deal of issues, especially in the underserved communities where the trucks are rolling through and the buses are rolling through. You think of our kids sitting on school buses run by diesel, idling there in the parking lot before they're told they can drive out. It's just really bad for the health and safety of the public. So we do have good coalitions going forward. There are some projections that you could have greater than a 24 percent load increase just off of EVs by 2050, and we've seen other projections by 2030. But right now what we have to do is gain the support of all, figure out with the balance sheets of the municipalities and the states, how do we execute on that, how do we help support execute on that, what strategies will be put in place to be able to not only they could afford the buses, they can afford much more heavy-duty trucks, electric vehicles. It's something that we're all working on very hard, and I think it will be beneficial to the environment.
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Larry MacHugh18:06
And when you look at the approaches that are being taken to try to implement that vision of an energy transition, a lot of it involves mandates and subsidies of technologies that people think will enable it to happen. One of the things that seems to be happening as well, though, is that mandates and subsidies of renewables and efficiency and load shifting and so forth seems to be at odds with the way that the wholesale markets operate, and it's creating some distortions and lack of harmony between the climate initiatives and running the markets. Do you see that as a problem that's going to be getting bigger in the future, and where does that kind of rank on the agenda? Is that a top 10 problem for the industry going forward?
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Christopher Crane18:50
It is a top 10 for the organized markets. I mean, it's probably number one in the organized markets. The way that the locational marginal pricing was designed was not the way the system runs today. So generators are not being compensated adequately. We have issues with negative prices, although we've solved some of that in Illinois, you still see that from time to time. So these mandates haven't matched a load profile to the mandate, the necessity on how many megawatts that they want built, and because of that we've got a distorted market from pricing. And we haven't seen any reliability issues yet, but you have to watch for those. And in some cases, the subsidies for the renewables have really benefited the customers, and it's been a way to jumpstart that. Phasing out the PTC and the ITC is the right thing to do. They're not emerging technologies anymore, they're mature technologies, and they've done a very good job on bringing their costs down. So if we can get more of a discipline on saying, okay, I don't need a rooftop solar on every house in Illinois, let's look at the load profile, let's look at the physics of the system, and figure out how we can make it as clean as possible. So to do that, there's going to have to be some good thinking and design changes to the markets and so forth.
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Larry MacHugh20:37
One of the things that seems to be out there, though, is with stakeholder governance, you tend to get gridlock, and it's very hard to move things forward until you get something like a polar vortex or an outage that forces change. Do you think that the way the markets are set up with the governance is going to create the kind of timely changes we all need?
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Christopher Crane20:59
I think the states are going to have to take over, especially on capacity, to be able to adequately secure the resources they want. You know, FERC is focused on functioning markets that are the holistic ISO. They want to make sure it's the lowest-priced provider is out there, and anybody that has a subsidy or compensation for their environmental benefits should be treated differently. Once you do that in an auction, you will still go back to the lowest-cost provider, but the lowest-cost provider will get a premium because they're bidding up against the marginal, which will be a low-carbon output.
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Larry MacHugh21:50
Right. I think my colleague at IHS Markit would certainly hope that next year this conversation isn't electronic, that we'd let you in person down in Houston. You know, you think about March and Houston next year, I think COVID and what happened will certainly be on the agenda. One of the big issues, do you think, will kind of dominate the power day discussions?
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Christopher Crane22:16
You know, I think from the electric sector and the natural gas sector is talking about market designs and ensuring that we can provide adequate, reliable power with the mandates that the states have around clean. Every one of our jurisdictions and our customers, it polls very high, if not in most jurisdictions the top, they want us to be responsible for the environment. We cannot be responsible for a market that doesn't compensate around the environment. You know, it's a dirty word or dirty phrase to go back to a carbon tax. However we put that phrase in, that's the national fix. If we could go there, then you let the markets respond, let technology emerge in, and people get compensated for their ability to produce at the low level. But right now the markets aren't doing it. The administration has not seen that as a priority. And so I think we'll be talking about that, dysfunctional markets, and how do we get to our environmental standards that our states and customers want.
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Larry MacHugh23:28
Right. Well, that's certainly very helpful for designing CERAWeek 2021. And you've provided us some great insights today on these key issues that we're all facing. And I'd just like to thank you for taking the time and sharing your thoughts with us today. Lucila, stay safe and enjoy the conversation.
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Christopher Crane23:48
Yeah, you too.